Maybe they didn't fill out the proper forms
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Cleveland |
I know, I know ... you second the nomination without even knowing why. http://wgntv.com/2016/02/11/tamir-rices-family-receives-500-ambulance-bill-from-cleveland/ CLEVELAND, Ohio — First, a Cleveland police officer shot and killed 12-year-old Tamir Rice as he played with a toy pellet gun in a public park. Then the city said the boy’s death was his own fault. And now Cleveland has charged the Rice family for his final ambulance ride. That latest development, coming on Wednesday nearly 15 months after Tamir’s death, stirred up fresh outrage — not just from his family, but from the Cleveland police union that’s fought them tooth and nail to clear the officers involved in the shooting. “Subodh Chandra and I have never agreed on anything until now,” police union President Steve Loomis told CNN affiliate WJW, referring to the Rice family’s lawyer. “It is unconscionable that the city of Cleveland would send that bill to the Rice family. “Truly disappointing, but not at all surprising.” ‘Adds insult to homicide’ Predictably, Chandra had his own harsh words. “The callousness, insensitivity and poor judgment required for the city to send a bill … is breathtaking,” Chandra said. “This adds insult to homicide.” He said Samaria Rice feels the $500 claim and invoice for her son’s ambulance ride amount to harassment. In December, a grand jury declined to indict the two responding police officers in the case. A federal review of the case is ongoing, and the Rice family is still pressing its case, including with a wrongful death lawsuit against the city of Cleveland. The city, in its 41-page response to that suit, claimed Tamir died because he failed “to exercise due care to avoid injury.” On Wednesday, it had little to say about the ambulance charge. “This is ongoing litigation, and we do not comment on ongoing litigation,” city spokesman Dan Williams said. Believing boy had real gun, police shoot him in seconds It all goes back to November 22, 2014, when Tamir was in a park yards from his Cleveland home. Surveillance video showed him walking back and forth — all alone, it seemed — occasionally pointing his pellet gun. One man noticed him and phoned 911. “The guy keeps pulling it in and out,” the caller said of the toy gun. “It’s probably fake. But you know what, he’s scaring the s**t out of people.” The part about the gun probably not being real never filtered down to police. Instead, a police car rapidly pulled up on snow-covered grass near a gazebo in the park, two officers got out, and one of them — fearing, according to his defenders, the boy would fire — shot Tamir within two seconds. Police claimed Timothy Loehmann, an officer in training, “shouted verbal commands” from inside the car, but witnesses did not back up that statement, according to a Cuyahoga County Sheriff’s Department report. Tamir’s family soon got word, rushing to the scene. “As I was trying to get through to my son, the police told me to calm down or they would put me in the back of a police car,” Samaria Rice recalled to reporters. She complied, but Tamir’s 14-year-old sister did end up handcuffed and in the back of a patrol car after police officers “tackled” her, her mother and a family lawyer said. Tamir, meanwhile, was put in an ambulance and rushed to the hospital. He died the next day. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 9:35 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cleveland |
No problem with what they did. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cleveland |
Nas wrote: No problem with what they did. The DB was for sending them the $500 ambulance bill. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cleveland |
Don Tiny wrote: Nas wrote: No problem with what they did. The DB was for sending them the $500 ambulance bill. Removing emotions, if they always send an invoice for ambulance rides, I don't have an issue with it. Why should the taxpayers pay? |
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| Author: | sjboyd0137 [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:16 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cleveland |
Nas wrote: Don Tiny wrote: Nas wrote: No problem with what they did. The DB was for sending them the $500 ambulance bill. Removing emotions, if they always send an invoice for ambulance rides, I don't have an issue with it. Why should the taxpayers pay? Biggest thing to remember when government is involved is that there are no emotions...nothing but automatons. |
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| Author: | Douchebag [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cleveland |
Is it even possible for the police not to send an invoice? By saying "Hey, we'll cover this one", isn't that admitting guilt? If the shooting was justified, then they shouldn't pick up the tab on the ambulance ride. *I'm not saying I agree the shooting was justified, so please don't start a stupid argument. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cleveland |
I believe the invoice is always sent out. There are a few avenues the family can take to get the bill reduced or eliminated all together. |
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| Author: | sjboyd0137 [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cleveland |
Maybe they didn't fill out the proper forms
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cleveland |
You'll notice that the police union chief thought this was a terrible idea ... the police didn't send the bill, the city did. That's why the nomination was for the city of Cleveland, not the police. |
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| Author: | a retard [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 10:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cleveland |
They got a deal. Milwaukee bills $1,200. |
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| Author: | Bagels [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:17 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cleveland |
they'll just write it off anyways |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cleveland |
It is a shame people pay taxes for a fire department and EMTs and you get a bill to actually use them. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 11:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cleveland |
 What are you doing here? I sent you to Cleveland! I should kill you for that alone
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cleveland |
Cleveland should bill the family for a box of bullets. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cleveland |
DB nailed it. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cleveland |
Nas wrote: Don Tiny wrote: Nas wrote: No problem with what they did. The DB was for sending them the $500 ambulance bill. Removing emotions, if they always send an invoice for ambulance rides, I don't have an issue with it. Why should the taxpayers pay? Did you see the video? |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:13 pm ] |
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| Author: | Nas [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cleveland |
312player wrote: Nas wrote: Don Tiny wrote: Nas wrote: No problem with what they did. The DB was for sending them the $500 ambulance bill. Removing emotions, if they always send an invoice for ambulance rides, I don't have an issue with it. Why should the taxpayers pay? Did you see the video? That has nothing to do with the invoice. |
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| Author: | Don Tiny [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cleveland |
Hatchetman wrote: DB nailed it. If you mean he nailed it by not reading the article, then yes, like a Craftsman hammer. |
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| Author: | W_Z [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cleveland |
Bagels wrote: they'll just write it off anyways you don't even know what a write off is. |
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| Author: | W_Z [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cleveland |
sjboyd0137 wrote: Maybe they didn't fill out the proper forms Oh the Vogonity. |
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| Author: | newper [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cleveland |
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZzgAjjuqZM |
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| Author: | 312player [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cleveland |
Nas wrote: 312player wrote: Nas wrote: [quote="Don The DB was for sending them the $500 ambulance bill. Removing emotions, if they always send an invoice for ambulance rides, I don't have an issue with it. Why should the taxpayers pay? Did you see the video? That has nothing to do with the invoice.[/quote] Disagree... I'm going to assume you did see the video, The cop should have been fired and probably prosecuted. Its not your typical city ambulance call. |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Thu Feb 11, 2016 4:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Cleveland |
Disagree 
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