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I don't like that at all. I couldn't listen past about a minute.

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I like the changes. Far less depressing sounding than the original. I only listened to about 30 seconds though because I don't like the song to begin with.

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
I don't like that at all. I couldn't listen past about a minute.
So it is like all other REM songs?

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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I don't like that at all. I couldn't listen past about a minute.
So it is like all other REM songs?

I'm a far, far cry from an R.E.M. fanboy, but lolwut

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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
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I don't like that at all. I couldn't listen past about a minute.
So it is like all other REM songs?

I like some of their stuff. And that one in particular I like as well...the original version that is.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:59 pm 
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R.E.M. songs that don't suck
Losing My Religion
Texarkana
Man on the Moon
Nightswimming
Stand
Orange Crush
Everybody Hurts
The One I Love
It's the End of the World As We Know It
(Don't Go Back to) Rockville

and that's just about it. Not unlike The Simpsons, there's about a decade of R.E.M. that has no business existing.

EDIT: and I love "Shiny Happy People" don't even care

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Curious Hair wrote:
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I don't like that at all. I couldn't listen past about a minute.
So it is like all other REM songs?

I'm a far, far cry from an R.E.M. fanboy, but lolwut
Maybe it's because it's been overplayed but I can't think of one REM song I'm interested in listening to any more.

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R.E.M. songs that don't suck

and that's just about it. Not unlike The Simpsons, there's about a decade of R.E.M. that has no business existing.


yet for some reason, your list is mainly comprised of songs that are very near the start of that decade


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Curious Hair wrote:
R.E.M. songs that don't suck
Losing My Religion
Texarkana
Man on the Moon
Nightswimming
Stand
Orange Crush
Everybody Hurts
The One I Love
It's the End of the World As We Know It
(Don't Go Back to) Rockville

and that's just about it. Not unlike The Simpsons, there's about a decade of R.E.M. that has no business existing.

You like some really pussy R.E.M. songs.

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Bagels wrote:
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R.E.M. songs that don't suck

and that's just about it. Not unlike The Simpsons, there's about a decade of R.E.M. that has no business existing.


yet for some reason, your list is mainly comprised of songs that are very near the start of that decade

What? I was referring to everything after Bill Berry quit the band. My R.E.M. collection stops at Automatic for the People, well before the cliff.

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Douchebag wrote:
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R.E.M. songs that don't suck
Losing My Religion
Texarkana
Man on the Moon
Nightswimming
Stand
Orange Crush
Everybody Hurts
The One I Love
It's the End of the World As We Know It
(Don't Go Back to) Rockville

and that's just about it. Not unlike The Simpsons, there's about a decade of R.E.M. that has no business existing.

You like some really pussy R.E.M. songs.


Are there any that don't qualify under that label?

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Curious Hair wrote:
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R.E.M. songs that don't suck

and that's just about it. Not unlike The Simpsons, there's about a decade of R.E.M. that has no business existing.


yet for some reason, your list is mainly comprised of songs that are very near the start of that decade

What? I was referring to everything after Bill Berry quit the band. My R.E.M. collection stops at Automatic for the People, well before the cliff.


right , but when listing your "songs that don't suck" , you omitted everything from the first 5 albums :lol:


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I like it!

Though the words don't really match the happy music.

Not a huge fan, but they have several great songs. I like Driver 8.

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Bagels wrote:
right , but when listing your "songs that don't suck" , you omitted everything from the first 5 albums :lol:

End of the World, The One I Love, Rockville. durrrr

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I heard the key switching thing with Rage Against The Machine's"Killing In The Name Of" it made me feel very funky and a lot less angry. Made me want to dance, not bring down the establishment. :lol:

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I like sadder music and less upbeat stuff.

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
I like sadder music and less upbeat stuff.

I like to use lots of minor chords but mix in one major in most compositions.
For instance, Requiem (on my soundcloud account) uses Am, Dm, Em then Am, Dm, Em, G... The G adds a passing upbeat note that puts the minors into perspective...
The Chorus is mostly major chords, G, Am, C, B... that changes the tone of the song in that portion (when I was a young man, I viewed the world a little different...) that's intended to bring about the hope and positive anticipation of the future, with the minor key revisited to reinforce the dread that the experience of life had done to that positivity.

These don't happen by accident, as Doug likes to say.

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this is weird

Interesting. I'd like to hear it w/ the vocals re-recorded to go along w/ the music.

I'm a fan of the idea of redoing songs in a different manner. Sad song become upbeat, happy songs become downers, etc.


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Darkside wrote:
The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
I like sadder music and less upbeat stuff.

I like to use lots of minor chords but mix in one major in most compositions.
For instance, Requiem (on my soundcloud account) uses Am, Dm, Em then Am, Dm, Em, G... The G adds a passing upbeat note that puts the minors into perspective...
The Chorus is mostly major chords, G, Am, C, B... that changes the tone of the song in that portion (when I was a young man, I viewed the world a little different...) that's intended to bring about the hope and positive anticipation of the future, with the minor key revisited to reinforce the dread that the experience of life had done to that positivity.

These don't happen by accident, as Doug likes to say.

Yup. Music is supposed to tell a story. I love the logic in your approach.

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The Original Kid Cairo wrote:
Darkside wrote:
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I like sadder music and less upbeat stuff.

I like to use lots of minor chords but mix in one major in most compositions.
For instance, Requiem (on my soundcloud account) uses Am, Dm, Em then Am, Dm, Em, G... The G adds a passing upbeat note that puts the minors into perspective...
The Chorus is mostly major chords, G, Am, C, B... that changes the tone of the song in that portion (when I was a young man, I viewed the world a little different...) that's intended to bring about the hope and positive anticipation of the future, with the minor key revisited to reinforce the dread that the experience of life had done to that positivity.

These don't happen by accident, as Doug likes to say.

Yup. Music is supposed to tell a story. I love the logic in your approach.

8) neat.
Sometimes songwriting is just putting a cool riff to some words. Sometimes it's a lot more.
Thanks man.

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Gotta say .... this more insipid version kinda demonstrates how simplistic the song really is. That is to say, with all the happy "Pretenders" sound to it, it sounds considerably less 'complex' or 'dark'; without the faux-emo sound to it, it's just a nice ditty.

I don't mean to say I don't enjoy the original proper version, but I'm not ready to dismiss this out of hand right away because it's an interesting comparative. I'd like to hear more songs like this to use as similar comparatives just to see if one can get a different taste with nearly the same ingredients.

I think in that sense it's pretty groovy; that's just me though.

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Someone needs to do this to the Foo Fighters.

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You like some really pussy R.E.M. songs.


Are there any that don't qualify under that label?

Man, this is a tough board. :|

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that was interesting. i like when people do creative things with standard, familiar music. like the "across the universe" soundtrack, that made some standard beatles songs almost unrecognizable (some may say that's a good thing).

it really does change the whole touch of the song. actually sounds like something that would've been off of "reveal", the fruitiest rem album in existence.

CH, "New adventures in hi-fi" is a top 5 album for them. although "up" is a very underrated album, too.

and "collapse into now" is a great series finale for them. certainly happy they ended on that note rather than that fucking "around the sun".


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it really does change the whole touch of the song. actually sounds like something that would've been off of "reveal", the fruitiest rem album in existence..


that was exactly my thoughts too....it made it sound like cloyingly sweet, latter day REM. which is not a good thing
I do like Out of Time, mostly for sentimental reasons..but i'm neutral on Losing My Religion, as part of the album i tolerate it but I would never think to myself "man i really want to hear Losing My Religion" that said i just found the whole thing pretty interesting


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Bagels wrote:
I do like Out of Time, mostly for sentimental reasons..but i'm neutral on Losing My Religion, as part of the album i tolerate it but I would never think to myself "man i really want to hear Losing My Religion" that said i just found the whole thing pretty interesting


See, that's one of the few R.E.M. songs I do seek out. Maybe it was because I didn't watch a lot of MTV in 1991-1992, being not even six years old and all, but I'm not burned out on it. I love the mandolin, the vocals, lyrics, everything.

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