It is currently Wed Nov 13, 2024 12:43 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 24 posts ] 
Author Message
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:36 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
Lars finally gets one right



Oasis: the band that changed our lives – by Lars Ulrich and Felix White
The Metallica drummer and Maccabees guitarist remember coming across Oasis 20 years ago – and how it altered their perceptions of music


Lars Ulrich of Metallica

In 1994 I was browsing through an issue of a magazine called Select, and there was a story about a band from England, with some unusual looking fellows, that I’d never heard of. I skimmed across the article, and was quite amused by the fact that every other word was either “fuck” or “Caller Bob”. There was a pretty detailed description of a conversation between one of the guys in the band, Noel Gallagher, and Paul Weller, that was particularly off-colour and very, very funny. It reeked of attitude and not giving a fuck, which at the time – at the height of the shoegazing-I-can’t-handle-being-a-rockstar attitudes that were becoming mainstream – was very refreshing.

A few weeks later I was driving in my car, listening to radio station Live 105 here in San Francisco, when a song came on unlike any I had ever heard before. The attitude, the aloofness, and the not-giving-a-fuck vibes were pouring out of the speakers, and by the time the first verse/bridge/chorus cycle was done, I was convinced that whatever I was listening to had to be that band that I had read about in Select a few weeks back. And sure enough I was right. It was Oasis and the Supersonic single. Thus began a long and very rewarding relationship with a sound, an approach and a way of looking at the world that has had a huge impact on me and helped shape who I am today … for whatever that’s worth.

Lars Ulrich
Lars Ulrich … ‘Oasis has been the soundtrack to my life for the last 20 years.’ Photograph: Michael Stewart/WireImage
If you didn’t live in England at the time, it may be difficult to truly understand the cultural impact and significance Oasis had on all things English in the mid 90s. Wherever or whoever you were when it was going down, you felt it … in the streets, in the pubs, the music press, on the radio, in the gossip rags, the concert halls, and affecting everything from the way people dressed, the way they cut their hair, what football team they supported, the way people communicated, one’s accent … the list goes on and on. The Oasis phenomenon cut across all shapes, sizes, boundaries and classes. Everybody knew Oasis, and in some way were impacted by them. And if they didn’t love them, it was often the polarising opposite. But most importantly, nobody didn’t care. Everyone had an opinion. Everybody had a thought. Nobody ignored them. No one.

Oasis has been the soundtrack to my life for the last 20 years on this wonderful planet. I have stories and pictures in my mind that go along with everything, from the first time I heard particular songs and read certain articles, to hearing about the band’s shenanigans and festivities. And fortunately, I have enjoyed my fair share of crossing paths and sharing space with the fellas over the years. But most of those stories are probably best left for a night of tall tales, half truths and vivid imaginations. However, I will say that doing the lights for them at a club show in the fall of ’94 at some God forsaken hole in the wall in Nowheresville, New Jersey, was a distinct highlight of my early encounters. They didn’t have a crew guy to run the light board, and I was the only one in the building that knew the songs …

Go figure how things changed.


Felix White of the Maccabees

The conviction of delivery in everything Oasis did was very convincing for a 10-year-old. They had such an effect on me that before I’d even heard one, I could tell anybody for 100% fact, with my hand on my heart, that synthesisers were rubbish. Synthesisers were rubbish and guitars were the best. And Oasis were the best at playing them.

It provoked me to religiously watch Top of the Pops, clapping guitar bands and booing anyone that wasn’t. I asked my parents if we could get chairs like the ones in the Wonderwall video. I put my hand up in class, with over exaggerated sense of urgency, to ask Ms Morris what a Champagne Supernova was. I don’t think she really knew.

The White Album was already my favourite record, but Oasis opened up music to me like a failsafe guide to rock’n’roll – the La’s, the Smiths, the Stone Roses, Love, T. Rex, Slade, the Small Faces, Neil Young – and it opened all kinds of possibilities about music and what was outside school. I set the alarms off on HMV Oxford Street carrying Hatful of Hollow and Forever Changes out through the doors because I saw Noel leaving and chased him to tell him “I’monlybuyingthesebecauseyousaidtheyweregoodandOasismeaneverythingtome.” Being escorted off by security in front of him is not my most graceful memory. Most importantly though, I decided that I wanted to be in a band, because Oasis made it seem like that was the best thing to do in the world.

Felix White
Felix White … ‘You either believed in it or you didn’t, and I did.’ Photograph: Lorne Campbell/Guzelian
In hindsight, the most rewarding part of the age I was when I discovered Oasis was that I was culturally totally unaware of it. I was too young to care about wearing Kangol hats, hating Blur, Cigarettes and Alcohol, flicking V-signs at people or Manchester City and I was way too young to go to gigs. It was a strange revelation that singing jibberish as if your life depended on it was incredibly empowering. There was something in the music that I just trusted instinctively and without cyniscm. It’s the strength of that feeling, as well as the strength of the songs, that makes those early Oasis records stand up so well 20 years on. Music has changed, but you can still just trust it. There was no point in analysing it, you either believed in it or you didn’t, and I did. There probably hasn’t been a better time to be getting into music since.

Our band don’t sound anything like Oasis, in fact we probably sound as far away as a guitar band can get from Oasis. Enlighteningly, I don’t still believe there is only one type of music worth listening to. We used synthesisers on our last record a little bit. A little bit. I like to think my 10-year-old self would reconcile that with the fact that Oasis were about being yourself, and if being ourselves is 5% synthesiser and keyboards, then I hope he could have lived with that.

(What’s the Story) Morning Glory? Deluxe Edition is out now on Big Brother


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:51 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Aug 24, 2010 10:16 am
Posts: 20082
pizza_Place: Aurelios
I dont even have to read the article. The fact that Lars LOVES Oasis just supports my 'Oasis is overrated crap' thesis.

_________________
drinky wrote:
If you hate Laurence, then don't listen - don't comment. When he co-hosts the B&B show, take that day off ... listen to an old podcast of a Bernstein solo show and jerk off all day.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 8:56 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
Hank Scorpio wrote:
I dont even have to read the article. The fact that Lars LOVES Oasis just supports my 'Oasis is overrated crap' thesis.

overrated crap is an anagram for Dr Pat Caroverer


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:55 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Mar 26, 2014 4:12 am
Posts: 1362
pizza_Place: J.B. Alberto's
Hank Scorpio wrote:
Lars LOVES Oasis


He also loves: tennis, fine wines, and getting progressively worse at his craft.

_________________
"Now comes good sailing. Moose. Indian."


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 9:57 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:29 pm
Posts: 55808
pizza_Place: Barstool One Bite Frozen
Oasis and Blur were both pretty boring. Meanwhile, Radiohead was off making classic albums while the Gallaghers were shouting "PISS OFF YA BLOODY WANKER" at Damon Albarn for reasons no one could possibly care about.

_________________
Molly Lambert wrote:
The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:51 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
Oasis is lightyears better than Radiohead


Oasis


Blur


Radiohead




Wilco


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:53 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:13 pm
Posts: 15062
pizza_Place: Four hours away....and on fire :-(
Eat my shorts, RPB.

_________________
-- source


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:55 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 07, 2013 5:55 am
Posts: 9340
pizza_Place: Lou Malnati's
Radiohead is gayer than two guys having sex with each other


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 10:56 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
redskingreg wrote:
Eat my shorts, RPB.

Yes, yes eat ALL of our Shirts!


Im just reacting harshly to CH. Radiohead is fine.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:19 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:29 pm
Posts: 55808
pizza_Place: Barstool One Bite Frozen
I will say that "Wonderwall" is fun to sing along to in an exaggerated Manchester accent. TA YEEEEWWW. Blur, well, they had that song you hear at hockey games and then a bunch of forgettable guitar-oriented mediocrity. But "Fake Plastic Trees"? "Let Down"? Gems.

EDIT: Also, wow, "Street Spirit" is a great song to listen to on a day where holy shit it's autumn outside all of a sudden.

_________________
Molly Lambert wrote:
The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:25 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:13 pm
Posts: 15062
pizza_Place: Four hours away....and on fire :-(
rogers park bryan wrote:
redskingreg wrote:
Eat my shorts, RPB.

Yes, yes eat ALL of our Shirts!


Im just reacting harshly to CH. Radiohead is fine.


I think Radiohead is crap. Big fan of Wilco, though.

_________________
-- source


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:27 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jun 29, 2007 11:17 am
Posts: 72378
Location: Palatine
pizza_Place: Lou Malnatis
Radiohead and Oasis are both good. Blur sucked. Wilco is great.

_________________
Fare you well, fare you well
I love you more than words can tell
Listen to the river sing sweet songs
To rock my soul


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:30 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:29 pm
Posts: 55808
pizza_Place: Barstool One Bite Frozen
redskingreg wrote:
I think Radiohead is crap.


Any reasons why? "Thom Yorke is whiny" is insufficient. You probably just haven't actually listened to Radiohead. I used to think they sucked before it occurred to me that I should listen to their albums first.

EDIT: I know it sounds arrogant to say you've never actually sat down and listened to them, but it's utterly beyond my comprehension as to how anyone can listen to a song as beautiful and perfectly constructed as "Let Down" and arrive at the conclusion that this band is crap.

The King of Limbs sucked. I'll give you that.

_________________
Molly Lambert wrote:
The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:34 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:13 pm
Posts: 15062
pizza_Place: Four hours away....and on fire :-(
Curious Hair wrote:
redskingreg wrote:
I think Radiohead is crap.


Any reasons why? "Thom Yorke is whiny" is insufficient. You probably just haven't actually listened to Radiohead. I used to think they sucked before it occurred to me that I should listen to their albums first.


Maybe "crap" is too harsh. I don't get the fawning over them. That's a better assessment. I like "Fake Plastic Trees," "Karma Police," and "No Surprises." I've listened to OK Computer, The Bends, and In Rainbows.

_________________
-- source


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:41 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:29 pm
Posts: 55808
pizza_Place: Barstool One Bite Frozen
Well, you're not going to get the fawning if you don't listen to Kid A and Amnesiac! Those were the game-changers!

People fawn over Radiohead because they synthesized alternative rock with electronics and jazz and reignited the dormant progressive rock tradition in a way that didn't involve turgid rock operas, Randian soliloquies, and a secret sense of shame in the listener. And while I'm not going to be the dipshit who says that Kid A was a soundtrack to September 11th (I'll leave that to Chuck Klosterman!), the OKC/Kid A/Amnesiac trilogy does make for an interesting take on the turn of the millennium. Kid A topping the charts in 2000 was one of the last times that the monoculture made an allowance for anything as far left of center as art school kids futzing around with real-time sampling pads and ancient electronic instruments. Now I'm not even sure there's a monoculture at all.

This probably isn't the time or place but the window between Y2K and 9/11 was a weird little interregnum, wasn't it?

_________________
Molly Lambert wrote:
The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 11:50 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 24, 2008 12:16 pm
Posts: 81625
Curious Hair wrote:
I will say that "Wonderwall" is fun to sing along to in an exaggerated Manchester accent. TA YEEEEWWW. Blur, well, they had that song you hear at hockey games and then a bunch of forgettable guitar-oriented mediocrity. But "Fake Plastic Trees"? "Let Down"? Gems.

EDIT: Also, wow, "Street Spirit" is a great song to listen to on a day where holy shit it's autumn outside all of a sudden.

I really dont get how someone could listen to Oasis and not like some of it. Its just such pure rock n roll.


Ah well.


Gilmore Girls is on Netflix


EDIT: I wrote this post before reading CH's post on Let Down. Very similar.

Let Down is fine. Nothing earth shattering.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Tue Sep 30, 2014 12:01 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:29 pm
Posts: 55808
pizza_Place: Barstool One Bite Frozen
"Let Down" is all about a pervasive sense of unease in daily life. I think Thom Yorke said it's about sitting on a train and suddenly having the thought that there's something else you're supposed to be doing at this moment, but you're not, and worse yet, you have no idea what it is. I like that concept. I suppose you could just call it generalized anxiety disorder. A line like "don't get sentimental, it always ends up drivel" is especially resonant in the context of a song about mindless commuting when you think about all the advertisements you're bombarded with in that course each day, and how emotion as commercial appeal ruins emotion as emotion. Musically, the song has four people playing in 4/4 with the fifth playing in 5/8, so they occasionally line up but generally don't, sort of like turn signals at a long red light. This gives a weird out-of-phase feel to the song, like everything is just a bit out of place and not where it's supposed to be -- tying back to that unplaceable feeling of uncertainty that the song is about. Then it resolves with the old computer noises coming in and the lyrics about one day growing wings and rising above all the starting and stopping and sad train station bars and empty sentimentality. Then those little beeps come back after the last big chord and carry the song away. Great song to listen to on public transit!

_________________
Molly Lambert wrote:
The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 8:26 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:16 pm
Posts: 1706
pizza_Place: My moms grave
The Bends is a perfect alt pop album. Anthrax coveting the Bends, well not so good. Street Spirit and Just are two awesome videos also. Hail and Limbs are tough listens


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 12:00 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 16, 2006 6:29 pm
Posts: 55808
pizza_Place: Barstool One Bite Frozen
Hail to the Thief has gotten better with age. I think everyone was hard on it because they expected Radiohead to get weirder and weirder, and then they sort of went backward a little bit. It's a little bloated, sure, yet none of the songs feel like they should be omitted. "I Will" isn't much on its own, but it slots in nicely. "Scatterbrain" is non-essential until to you listen to it on some blustery gloomy fall day and then it feels special. The "and the raindrops" bit from "Sit down. Stand up." goes way too fucking long, but if it were shorter, it would be sort of pointless. Like the album itself, it has to be too much. It also has my favorite cover art of any Radiohead album, so there's that:

Image

Which I think really communicates that idea of "too much."

"A Wolf at the Door," "Go to Sleep," "We Suck Young Blood," "There There," all great songs. The b-sides for HTTT are good, too. "Paperbag Writer" has a nice groove. I love "Where Bluebirds Fly," especially its rare live version.

_________________
Molly Lambert wrote:
The future holds the possibility to be great or terrible, and since it has not yet occurred it remains simultaneously both.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:40 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:16 pm
Posts: 1706
pizza_Place: My moms grave
I could never warm up to it. I tried again a couple years ago. I didn't love OK when it came out. I was a fanboy from Pablo and Bends, was excited and being anti establishment I hated that it was so embraced and became the establishment of that movement to an extent. I never disliked it just disliked the radio head fans. Oddly I liked oasis more at that moment.

Supersonic is such a perfect smarmy rock song. Sounds nothing like GnR AFD but had the same edge. Wonderwall was a good simple ballad. Love it like Pink Moon


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 6:51 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2010 9:09 am
Posts: 19925
pizza_Place: Papa Johns
Curious Hair wrote:
redskingreg wrote:
I think Radiohead is crap.


Any reasons why? "Thom Yorke is whiny" is insufficient. You probably just haven't actually listened to Radiohead. I used to think they sucked before it occurred to me that I should listen to their albums first.

EDIT: I know it sounds arrogant to say you've never actually sat down and listened to them, but it's utterly beyond my comprehension as to how anyone can listen to a song as beautiful and perfectly constructed as "Let Down" and arrive at the conclusion that this band is crap.

The King of Limbs sucked. I'll give you that.


I like them up to and including Kid A.

After that........................KEEP IT.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:28 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Aug 22, 2007 10:19 pm
Posts: 6516
pizza_Place: Kaiser's - Kenosha
The Hail To The Thief tour stop at Alpine Valley was among the best shows my wife and I have ever seen.

_________________
Just chillin' like Garret Quillin.


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2014 7:39 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Fri Jul 25, 2014 6:16 pm
Posts: 1706
pizza_Place: My moms grave
shirtless driver wrote:
The Hail To The Thief tour stop at Alpine Valley was among the best shows my wife and I have ever seen.



2001 at Grant park was something special for me. Aside from red rocks I have seen a few good shows in grant park but the radiohead one was the best


Top
 Profile  
 
PostPosted: Mon Oct 06, 2014 3:36 pm 
Offline
100000 CLUB
User avatar

Joined: Wed Feb 08, 2006 6:17 pm
Posts: 102656
pizza_Place: Vito & Nick's
I think Lars Ulrich is a giant, flaming penis. But he is 100% right on this.

_________________
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
It's more fun to be a victim
Caller Bob wrote:
There will never be an effective vaccine. I'll never get one anyway.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 24 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 8 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group