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The better question is who fucked up more going solo or leaving.. Start that thread with David Byrne

Talking Heads was done after Stop Making Sense anyway. After five albums and the movie, there was nowhere left to go.

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I thought this was a question about who was better after leaving a (real) band, not just touring with various outfits here and there. Otherwise we can toss Glen Campbell in there after he left The Wrecking Crew.

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If we're talking Genesis, then Mike + The Mechanics were twelve times better than any Genesis lineup.

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In an attempt to expand the list... George Michael after Wham..

He became hip all of a sudden there in about 1989, and I didn't understand why.

I agree that Bob Mould is a good choice. I never liked the sound of Husker Du as much as my friends did.


Yep. Apparently they were pretty ferocious live, and I think their live album has some songs on it from the Vic or The Riv, but I'm with you on their 'sound'. I also don't really care much for Grant Hart's songs in general. I absolutely love Warehouse, and don't give much of a shit about Zen Arcade, so what do I know? I did see Bob on the Black Sheets of Rain tour when I was in high school. Ultra Vivid Scene opened. It was awesome. And SUGAR???????????? Those 2 albums and the Beaster ep are my favorite things Bob has ever done.

Have you read his autobiography? Tucking sad in that it comes across that he thinks he isn't appreciated. I saw him one time at the Metro,louder and hardest acoustic guitar ever.


Looks like that is next on my list. Can't believe he thinks he's not appreciated....


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The better question is who fucked up more going solo or leaving.. Start that thread with David Byrne

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If we're talking Genesis, then Mike + The Mechanics were twelve times better than any Genesis lineup.

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I'm not a hardcore Genesis fan, but I like A Trick of the Tail and Duke more than The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway and Selling England by the Pound. I don't think that would be the case if I had gotten into them sooner than I did.


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I agree also on Peter Gabriel, especially for "So", which is classic album, but I would have to give the edge to Phil Collins as being the better single artist post-Genesis for his body of work. No Jacket Required is Collin's signature album with Sussudio, Don't Lose My Number, One More Night and of course, Take Me Home. The extended mix of Take Me Home is great.


Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you dance a little. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your asshole. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.

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I'm not a hardcore Genesis fan, but I like A Trick of the Tail and Duke more than The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway and Selling England by the Pound. I don't think that would be the case if I had gotten into them sooner than I did.


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I agree also on Peter Gabriel, especially for "So", which is classic album, but I would have to give the edge to Phil Collins as being the better single artist post-Genesis for his body of work. No Jacket Required is Collin's signature album with Sussudio, Don't Lose My Number, One More Night and of course, Take Me Home. The extended mix of Take Me Home is great.


Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you dance a little. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your asshole. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.


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What? No! Dammit.

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I got one more. Clapton.

Can't believe we missed that one.


You must have MajorKong on ignore. :)

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tommy wrote:
Don Tiny wrote:
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If we're talking Genesis, then Mike + The Mechanics were twelve times better than any Genesis lineup.

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I'm not a hardcore Genesis fan, but I like A Trick of the Tail and Duke more than The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway and Selling England by the Pound. I don't think that would be the case if I had gotten into them sooner than I did.


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I agree also on Peter Gabriel, especially for "So", which is classic album, but I would have to give the edge to Phil Collins as being the better single artist post-Genesis for his body of work. No Jacket Required is Collin's signature album with Sussudio, Don't Lose My Number, One More Night and of course, Take Me Home. The extended mix of Take Me Home is great.


Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you dance a little. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your asshole. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.


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tommy wrote:
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In an attempt to expand the list... George Michael after Wham..

He became hip all of a sudden there in about 1989, and I didn't understand why.

I agree that Bob Mould is a good choice. I never liked the sound of Husker Du as much as my friends did.



88 it was already happening if I recall correctly. The Greek girls at my school were obsessed with him.


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I'm not a hardcore Genesis fan, but I like A Trick of the Tail and Duke more than The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway and Selling England by the Pound. I don't think that would be the case if I had gotten into them sooner than I did.


Dignified Rube wrote:
I agree also on Peter Gabriel, especially for "So", which is classic album, but I would have to give the edge to Phil Collins as being the better single artist post-Genesis for his body of work. No Jacket Required is Collin's signature album with Sussudio, Don't Lose My Number, One More Night and of course, Take Me Home. The extended mix of Take Me Home is great.


Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you dance a little. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your asshole. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.


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In 8th grade music class we had to learn “Billy Don’t Lose My Number” on piano in music class. Welp, that’s my Phil Collins story. Also we had to sing “Open Arms” at graduation because all the girls wanted to and the boys were too cool to bother voting for anything else.


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I'm not a hardcore Genesis fan, but I like A Trick of the Tail and Duke more than The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway and Selling England by the Pound. I don't think that would be the case if I had gotten into them sooner than I did.


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I agree also on Peter Gabriel, especially for "So", which is classic album, but I would have to give the edge to Phil Collins as being the better single artist post-Genesis for his body of work. No Jacket Required is Collin's signature album with Sussudio, Don't Lose My Number, One More Night and of course, Take Me Home. The extended mix of Take Me Home is great.


Do you like Phil Collins? I've been a big Genesis fan ever since the release of their 1980 album, Duke. Before that, I really didn't understand any of their work. Too artsy, too intellectual. It was on Duke where Phil Collins' presence became more apparent. I think Invisible Touch was the group's undisputed masterpiece. It's an epic meditation on intangibility. At the same time, it deepens and enriches the meaning of the preceding three albums. Christy, take off your robe. Listen to the brilliant ensemble playing of Banks, Collins and Rutherford. You can practically hear every nuance of every instrument. Sabrina, remove your dress. In terms of lyrical craftsmanship, the sheer songwriting, this album hits a new peak of professionalism. Sabrina, why don't you dance a little. Take the lyrics to Land of Confusion. In this song, Phil Collins addresses the problems of abusive political authority. In Too Deep is the most moving pop song of the 1980s, about monogamy and commitment. The song is extremely uplifting. Their lyrics are as positive and affirmative as anything I've heard in rock. Christy, get down on your knees so Sabrina can see your asshole. Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. Sabrina, don't just stare at it, eat it. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist. This is Sussudio, a great, great song, a personal favorite.


Yes, of course. I grew up listening to Phil Collins. It was Phil Collins, Police Greatest Hits and Huey Lewis and the News that I probably listened to most in my teen years. Then I heard Zeppelin and Stairway my senior year of high school, and my tastes shifted to mostly Zep by college, especially after I purchased a boot on the old Condor label of the Frankfurt '80 show. I was in awe by Page's solo on Stairway on that one, a sloppy virtuoso delivery with blistering arpeggios. Once you get into the Zep Boots, there's a huge catalog to discover, and I've spent a lifetime doing that.

I bought Invisible Touch when it came out. I really liked the track, but was not so much of a fan of Land of Confusion and In Too Deep. I still prefer songs like Against All Odds, Take Me Home, Sussudio, and Easy Lover. Easy Lover is a favorite. It has a great groove to it.

You can hear that Page solo at this link at 1:35.30.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AY9RHCWnr3Q


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Also we had to sing “Open Arms”

One of my favorite power ballads. Steve Smith owns that tune on the drums.

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Phil Collins' solo career seems to be more commercial and therefore more satisfying, in a narrower way. Especially songs like In the Air Tonight and Against All Odds. But I also think Phil Collins works best within the confines of the group, than as a solo artist, and I stress the word artist.


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