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 Post subject: Re: November Rain
PostPosted: Wed Aug 01, 2018 1:45 am 
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Hockey Gay wrote:
I enjoy November Rain. Not one of my favorite songs but it's good

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Double Talkin' Jive, It's So Easy and Rocket Queen are all better than November Rain.
I still like November Rain and everything, I'm just sayin'.
I don't think I ever liked "Don't Cry" though...

Good thoughts here.

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Coma
Dead Horse
Double Talkin' Jive
Dust N' Bones
Estranged
Garden Of Eden
Get In the Ring
Knockin' On Heaven's Door
Live and Let Die
Locomotive
November Rain
Right Next Door To Hell
The Garden
Yesterdays
You Could Be Mine

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 Post subject: Re: November Rain
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Love or hate Slash's fills and solos in his entire oeuvre. I can hardly make a case for any fill or lead besides this moment.

I say.......as a player.

A Gibson has never sounded better. Than whatever he found on that day to bless those tracks with.

Melodic. Taut. Expansive.

Not unlike Robbie or Jimi or say even Antonio Jobim on their best days. Slash SERVED that song properly.

Not with mastubatory pyrotechnichs. Just.....ascension. And respect.


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 Post subject: Re: November Rain
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I think Slash is a great melodic hard rock player. He’s nowhere near the Les Paul Mt Rushmore though.

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 Post subject: Re: November Rain
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I think Slash is a great melodic hard rock player. He’s nowhere near the Les Paul Mt Rushmore though.

I dont think that is what Frankie was saying...

But Mt Rushmore discussions with such things are extremely subjective.

Slash at the very least should be in the team photo/discussion.

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 Post subject: Re: November Rain
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pittmike wrote:
I think Slash is a great melodic hard rock player. He’s nowhere near the Les Paul Mt Rushmore though.


Nah. Not in the Gibson pantheon. Not Jimmy Page or even Pete who KNEW how to talk back and forth to his Gibson when needed, or badass fuckin Billy Gibbons on the entire Tres Hombres or Fandango live album just killing that LP tone. Or Duane kissing each fret like a lover in any Allmans early joint.

Im saying....Just that particular lead. He IMHO caught how that guitar sounds at its sweetest.

Allow me to make an argument. Frampton Comes Alive. A very nice artifact of a place and a time. Nothing mind blowing musically. But the tone that he got, love it or hate it again....was how that axe was supposed to be heard. As opposed to a Fender Telecaster, (my particular fave for ease of neck glide and Stones Aerosmith 70s riffage.)

I think the proper thread for my reply should have been Gibson tone lovers forum.

Per this thread.....Just that Slash on that day......Had the right tool in his hand to express.......like sheets of rain...........his melodious tale.


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 Post subject: Re: November Rain
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Got you now. I would add as an underrated Les Paul magicians Tom Sholz and Gary Richrath.

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 Post subject: Re: November Rain
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November rain doesn't even crack a top 10 GnR hit list.

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 Post subject: Re: November Rain
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pittmike wrote:
Got you now. I would add as an underrated Les Paul magicians Tom Sholz and Gary Richrath.


Gary Richrath era REO is their best period, easily. It's too bad Gary got the boot from his own band. Great guitarist.

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pittmike wrote:
Got you now. I would add as an underrated Les Paul magicians Tom Sholz and Gary Richrath.


Mr. Rushmore of Les Paul players....can we just go ahead and leave Les off the mountain as that's a given?

Interesting list:
Slash
Tom Scholz
Ace Frehley
Peter Frampton
Duane Allman
Jimmy Page
Neil Schon
Randy Rhoads
Joe Perry
Zakk Wylde
Peter Green
Gary Moore

It's impossible to pick only 4.

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wdelaney72 wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Got you now. I would add as an underrated Les Paul magicians Tom Sholz and Gary Richrath.


Mr. Rushmore of Les Paul players....can we just go ahead and leave Les off the mountain as that's a given?

Interesting list:
Slash
Tom Scholz
Ace Frehley
Peter Frampton
Duane Allman
Jimmy Page
Neil Schon
Randy Rhoads
Joe Perry
Zakk Wylde
Peter Green
Gary Moore

It's impossible to pick only 4.


Little know is Eddie VH used Les Paul pickups inserted into Strat body for his first famous Frankie.

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 Post subject: Re: November Rain
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pittmike wrote:
wdelaney72 wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Got you now. I would add as an underrated Les Paul magicians Tom Sholz and Gary Richrath.


Mr. Rushmore of Les Paul players....can we just go ahead and leave Les off the mountain as that's a given?

Interesting list:
Slash
Tom Scholz
Ace Frehley
Peter Frampton
Duane Allman
Jimmy Page
Neil Schon
Randy Rhoads
Joe Perry
Zakk Wylde
Peter Green
Gary Moore

It's impossible to pick only 4.


Little know is Eddie VH used Les Paul pickups inserted into Strat body for his first famous Frankie.


...which was actually NOT the primary guitar used to record VH1. VH1 was an original lawsuit Ibanez Destroyer which he later ruined by cutting it up to make the "Shark" guitar pictured on Women and Children First.

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wdelaney72 wrote:
pittmike wrote:
wdelaney72 wrote:
pittmike wrote:
Got you now. I would add as an underrated Les Paul magicians Tom Sholz and Gary Richrath.


Mr. Rushmore of Les Paul players....can we just go ahead and leave Les off the mountain as that's a given?

Interesting list:
Slash
Tom Scholz
Ace Frehley
Peter Frampton
Duane Allman
Jimmy Page
Neil Schon
Randy Rhoads
Joe Perry
Zakk Wylde
Peter Green
Gary Moore

It's impossible to pick only 4.


Little know is Eddie VH used Les Paul pickups inserted into Strat body for his first famous Frankie.


...which was actually NOT the primary guitar used to record VH1. VH1 was an original lawsuit Ibanez Destroyer which he later ruined by cutting it up to make the "Shark" guitar pictured on Women and Children First.


Seems we have to have a VH beer session.

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 Post subject: Re: November Rain
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FrankieMachine wrote:
Love or hate Slash's fills and solos in his entire oeuvre. I can hardly make a case for any fill or lead besides this moment.

I say.......as a player.

A Gibson has never sounded better. Than whatever he found on that day to bless those tracks with.

Melodic. Taut. Expansive.

Not unlike Robbie or Jimi or say even Antonio Jobim on their best days. Slash SERVED that song properly.

Not with mastubatory pyrotechnichs. Just.....ascension. And respect.

Ugh. Guitarists are THE WORST.

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