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Stinkfinger The Crow wrote:

I have it already.

couldn't get into "ghost", never bought it. i liked "summer teeth" but it was no "being there"; then again, hard to follow that act.

btw stink i ordered colma from amazon, and listened to some of the tracks. great suggestion, thanks. i found the other album you mentioned on iTunes, may check some of that out too.

I have my ways. And it sounds more like Being There or YHF. No channeling of Sonic Youth a la A Ghost Is Born, and no Beach Boys pop of Summerteeth.

I loved the way A Ghost Is Born started, I really dig "At Least That's What You Said", however, the rest of the album was not their best effort.

but I fear Tweedy will be unable to reproduce these magisterial results without Jay Bennett, who seemed to understand how to amplify Tweedy's melodies better than Tweedy does.

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a lot of guitar wankery

This precisely describes every song I have ever tried to write.

Kicking Television: Live in Chicago
On November 15, 2005 the band released a live album entitled Kicking Television: Live in Chicago, recorded May 4-7, 2005 at the Vic Theater in Chicago, Illinois. Originally intended as a DVD/CD package with footage shot by director Sam Jones, the band decided to scrap the film portion due to technical problems and a lack of crowd shots. Kicking Television: Live in Chicago is the first Wilco album to feature the two newest members of the band. The album was ranked at #16 in Q magazine's "20 Best Live Albums" list.

TS,

From wikipedia:

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As far as the DVD, This one is pretty cool - Tweedy solo.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunken_Tre ... _Northwest

The new Wilco is gonna be a big hit on LITE FM. Once again Farrar and the new Son Volt album blow away the pretentious Wilco shit.

On a conceptual level, Being There is thus the last Uncle Tupelo CD,

Author:	Stinkfinger The Crow [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:40 am ]
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Due out May 15. I have it already. I know there's a lot of fans on the board here. Pretty good stuff.

Author:	Sleuth [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:17 am ]
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WHO?

Author:	Sam in Hoffman [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:25 am ]
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Thanks for the head up.. I'll put it on my radar screen for May.

Author:	Tall Midget [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 9:39 am ]
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What other Wilco CD does it most closely resemble? I hope it's not Quote: A Ghost Is Born . There are some pretty good songs on that CD, but overall it's mediocrity dressed up with a lot of guitar wankery and pretentious whispery vocals. "I'm a Wheel" has to be one of the dumbest songs ever written. I long for the days of Yankee Hotel Foxtrot, Summerteeth, and Being There, but I fear Tweedy will be unable to reproduce these magisterial results without Jay Bennett, who seemed to understand how to amplify Tweedy's melodies better than Tweedy does.

Author:	Bulldog Scott [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 10:02 am ]
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Quote: Stinkfinger The Crow wrote: I have it already. How?

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Author:	W_Z [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 12:24 pm ]
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couldn't get into "ghost", never bought it. i liked "summer teeth" but it was no "being there"; then again, hard to follow that act. btw stink i ordered colma from amazon, and listened to some of the tracks. great suggestion, thanks. i found the other album you mentioned on iTunes, may check some of that out too.

Author:	Mustang Rob [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:38 pm ]
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Quote: I have my ways. And it sounds more like Being There or YHF. No channeling of Sonic Youth a la A Ghost Is Born, and no Beach Boys pop of Summerteeth. Is it available on the p2p forums?

Author:	Mustang Rob [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:45 pm ]
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Quote: I loved the way A Ghost Is Born started, I really dig "At Least That's What You Said", however, the rest of the album was not their best effort. This is material that comes across much better in a live setting. Spiders (Kidsmoke) & Hell is Chrome don't come off nearly as pretentious as they do on the CD. Hummingbird & Handshake Drugs are as good as anything Tweedy ever recorded.

Author:	Mustang Rob [ Wed Mar 07, 2007 1:53 pm ]
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Never heard of it

Author:	Mopery [ Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:19 pm ]
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Quote: but I fear Tweedy will be unable to reproduce these magisterial results without Jay Bennett, who seemed to understand how to amplify Tweedy's melodies better than Tweedy does. you're absolutely right, tm. bennett had such great pop sensibilities and made tweedy's words/music more accessible. although i liked a ghost is born, it's nearly impossible to live up to the masterpiece of YHF. a few years ago, i heard that wilco filmed the vic theater performance for a dvd release. i know they released the live cd, but no concert dvd to accompany it. has this project been scrapped?

Author:	doug - evergreen park [ Thu Mar 08, 2007 1:29 pm ]
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Quote: Quote: a lot of guitar wankery This precisely describes every song I have ever tried to write. mp3's?

Author:	Mustang Rob [ Thu Mar 08, 2007 2:41 pm ]
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TS, From wikipedia: Quote: Kicking Television: Live in Chicago On November 15, 2005 the band released a live album entitled Kicking Television: Live in Chicago, recorded May 4-7, 2005 at the Vic Theater in Chicago, Illinois. Originally intended as a DVD/CD package with footage shot by director Sam Jones, the band decided to scrap the film portion due to technical problems and a lack of crowd shots. Kicking Television: Live in Chicago is the first Wilco album to feature the two newest members of the band. The album was ranked at #16 in Q magazine's "20 Best Live Albums" list. As far as the DVD, This one is pretty cool - Tweedy solo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunken_Tre ... _Northwest

Author:	Mopery [ Thu Mar 08, 2007 3:31 pm ]
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Mustang Rob wrote: TS, From wikipedia: Quote: Kicking Television: Live in Chicago On November 15, 2005 the band released a live album entitled Kicking Television: Live in Chicago, recorded May 4-7, 2005 at the Vic Theater in Chicago, Illinois. Originally intended as a DVD/CD package with footage shot by director Sam Jones, the band decided to scrap the film portion due to technical problems and a lack of crowd shots. Kicking Television: Live in Chicago is the first Wilco album to feature the two newest members of the band. The album was ranked at #16 in Q magazine's "20 Best Live Albums" list. As far as the DVD, This one is pretty cool - Tweedy solo. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunken_Tre ... _Northwest thanks for the info on the wilco dvd, mustang. damn you sam jones! how could you fukk up a concert video?

Author:	Curious Hair [ Fri Mar 09, 2007 5:08 pm ]
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SBS is strong, but samey. Much more organic than YHF or AGIB, but I hesitate to call it a regression.

Author:	Tall Midget [ Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:57 pm ]
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I view Son Volt's first CD, Trace, as the culmination of Uncle Tupelo's musical and thematic concerns, a perfection of the subgenre Tweedy and Farrar invented with No Depression. [/i]Being There is, in turn, Tweedy's response to [i]Trace, an attempt to aesthetically triumph over Farrar not by trying to best the aesthetic perfection of Trace, but by musically and philosophically interrogating the preoccupation with authenticity that propels that CD. I have always taken Being There to be an ironic title, as the CD itself testifies both to the impossibility of being there, of experiencing reality in any "full" or unmediated way, and to the futility of attempting to represent that experience in an authoritative or authentic manner. On a conceptual level, Being There is thus the last Uncle Tupelo CD, an exercise in generic mastery accomplished not through virtuosity, but through the radical critique of self-reflexivity.

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Author:	Rocks and Blows [ Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:52 am ]
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The new Wilco is gonna be a big hit on LITE FM. Once again Farrar and the new Son Volt album blow away the pretentious Wilco shit.

Author:	Mustang Rob [ Mon Mar 12, 2007 4:10 pm ]
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Quote: The new Wilco is gonna be a big hit on LITE FM. Once again Farrar and the new Son Volt album blow away the pretentious Wilco shit. This is almost as bad as the Cubs/Sox arguments. Who cares - neither is as good as Tupelo. SBS melodies are much "prettier" than the previous albums. It almost sounds like Sting - too mellow. http://www.reuters.com/article/internet ... 9120070310

Author:	Tall Midget [ Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:58 pm ]
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I just heard "What Light" from SBS and wasn't that impressed. It sounded more like an outtake from one of the Woody Guthrie CDs than anything else. Pretty boring, really.

Author:	Tall Midget [ Wed Mar 14, 2007 8:56 pm ]
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I am listening to more of SBS right now. Conclusion: mediocre at best.

Author:	Mustang Rob [ Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:02 am ]
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Quote: On a conceptual level, Being There is thus the last Uncle Tupelo CD, I never thought of it in those terms TM, but I do agree with you. Tweedy's writing is always more introspective and honest than the usual rock lyrics and is a pretty accurate reflection of his life. It seems that "Being There" was the last time his work was a direct response to Farrar.