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Author:  Chus [ Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:36 pm ]
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http://wxrt.cbslocal.com/2017/02/28/u2- ... tung-baby/

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Sun Mar 05, 2017 1:38 pm ]
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Kinda sounds like Paul Rose needs to do his homework.

Author:  sinicalypse [ Sun Mar 05, 2017 2:16 pm ]
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LITTLE KNOWN FACT: when i'm [rarely allowed to be] out in the world doing my thing and i say "have a nice day!" to someone and they retort "you too!" back, i'll often go "hey i fucking hate that band [U2] so can you please say "[yo]u 2pac" or something a little more amenable to us people who have souls?"

seriously, i might as well have a "that white boy's crazy"-o-meter installed in my dashboard cuz i encounter so many of those that you could probably measure them against units of time and get a fun # =P

Author:  Curious Hair [ Sun Mar 05, 2017 4:53 pm ]
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U2 was a terrific band for many years.

As for this Paul Rose thing, I don't hear any direct theft. It just sounds like a bunch of noodling in the style of Achtung Baby's guitar sound. It's a big nothing.

Author:  sinicalypse [ Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:32 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
U2 was a terrific band for many years.


ok, so now that you've said this platitude that will get everyone to think you're a good-ol-fashioned well balanced everyman that nobody would suspect is "one of those weirdos" so you're probably cleared to marry their daughter/s if it ever comes to that-- what do you really think about U2? =P

(i know, i know... i'm just breaking your e-balls here!)

oh and btw, re: "[yo]u 2pac!" aka "you 2pac!" twitter seriously perma-suspended my @whitetupac account b4 i could ever make a tweet! talk about some fucking world, no, galaxy-class haterade, huh? =/

Author:  Curious Hair [ Sun Mar 05, 2017 5:51 pm ]
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How much modern U2 hate is predicated only on "Beautiful Day," "Elevation," and "Vertigo" getting overexposed while Bono stretched his arms out like Jesus too much? I can't picture someone listening to "Surrender" or "The Unforgettable Fire" and being like "god fuck this fucking band so much, kill White America."

Author:  shirtless driver [ Sun Mar 05, 2017 7:48 pm ]
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U2 stole Paul Rose's demo after they finally hit the big time and signed to Island in 1989.
The label needed a hit from these fresh faced Irish up and comers. It didn't work.
The members of U2 packed up their gear and went home, never to be heard from again.
Paul Rose can't leave well enough alone and bathe in his own artistic and financial glories.....NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He decides to sue them 26 years later for $5 million. Just for shits and giggles.
I hope Paul Rose sleeps well at night.

Author:  DannyB [ Sun Mar 05, 2017 8:01 pm ]
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Joe Satriani should sue Paul Rose for stealing his 1987 guitar tone.

Author:  Psycory [ Mon Mar 06, 2017 11:58 am ]
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why wait 26 years? The conspiracy theorist in me says U2 stopped paying hush money.

Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:11 pm ]
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U2 is trash.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:13 pm ]
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
U2 is trash.

Nope, they were making great music up through Passengers in 1995 and Brian Eno's production was very influential.

Author:  Drunk Squirrel [ Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:16 pm ]
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I don't think I followed U2 after Achtung Baby but hard for me to call them garbage for the stuff pre 93/94 that I was exposed to. Was never a huge fan but did enjoy the early stuff, I imagine I still would if for nothing more than nostalgia these days.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Mon Mar 06, 2017 12:24 pm ]
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War, The Unforgettable Fire, The Joshua Tree, and Achtung Baby are all 9.5/10 albums, at least. It's difficult to find fault with any of them unless you're coming in with "durrrr bono is a pud." And honestly, I'd rather have Bono up on stage acting like his music can save the world than Mick Jagger looking 85 years old and embalmed doing a stupid chicken walk to some boring plinky-plonky white blues.

Underrated song, in my opinion.

Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:12 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
War, The Unforgettable Fire, The Joshua Tree, and Achtung Baby are all 9.5/10 albums, at least. It's difficult to find fault with any of them unless you're coming in with "durrrr bono is a pud." And honestly, I'd rather have Bono up on stage acting like his music can save the world than nut Jagger looking 85 years old and embalmed doing a stupid chicken walk to some boring plinky-plonky white blues.

Underrated song, in my opinion.


Taking their whole career, U2 is trash. They started off fine. Joshua Tree and Achtung Baby are OK. Had they stopped in 92 I wouldn't think they are trash. But everything that came afterwards is PTFB bullshit.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:27 pm ]
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Then ignore all the bad stuff (and the cutoff is '95, not '92). I've not once listened to No Line on the Horizon because I figured it must suck.

Author:  Drunk Squirrel [ Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:32 pm ]
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There would be a lot of bands/singers that would be dog crap if you focused on their later years vs earlier years. I tend to grab a hold of what I like when it comes to music and pretend the rest never happened.

Author:  badrogue17 [ Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:33 pm ]
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Drunk Squirrel wrote:
There would be a lot of bands/singers that would be dog crap if you focused on their later years vs earlier years. I tend to grab a hold of what I like when it comes to music and pretend the rest never happened.

REM at the top of that list .

Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:36 pm ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
Drunk Squirrel wrote:
There would be a lot of bands/singers that would be dog crap if you focused on their later years vs earlier years. I tend to grab a hold of what I like when it comes to music and pretend the rest never happened.

REM at the top of that list .


CHICAGO GUY!!!! Parkins wrote:
What does sleep have to do with music??

Author:  Drunk Squirrel [ Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:37 pm ]
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Id go Rolling Stones..

Author:  Jaw Breaker [ Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:52 pm ]
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badrogue17 wrote:
Drunk Squirrel wrote:
There would be a lot of bands/singers that would be dog crap if you focused on their later years vs earlier years. I tend to grab a hold of what I like when it comes to music and pretend the rest never happened.

REM at the top of that list .


I feel that way about Rush. With rare example (e.g., Nobody's Hero, The Garden), I can hardly listen to anything post-Signals.

And Elton John.

Those are probably the most glaring for me...but as brogue said, MANY artists follow that pattern.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:55 pm ]
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Jaw Breaker wrote:
Those are probably the most glaring for me...but as brogue said, MANY artists follow that pattern.

Prince after the black album, Springsteen after Nebraska, Bowie after Let's Dance, Dylan after Desire

Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Mon Mar 06, 2017 2:56 pm ]
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Billy Joel is one of my favorites but he hasn't released anything new in 30 years. :lol:

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:48 pm ]
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Hank Scorpio wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
War, The Unforgettable Fire, The Joshua Tree, and Achtung Baby are all 9.5/10 albums, at least. It's difficult to find fault with any of them unless you're coming in with "durrrr bono is a pud." And honestly, I'd rather have Bono up on stage acting like his music can save the world than nut Jagger looking 85 years old and embalmed doing a stupid chicken walk to some boring plinky-plonky white blues.

Underrated song, in my opinion.


Taking their whole career, U2 is trash. They started off fine. Joshua Tree and Achtung Baby are OK. Had they stopped in 92 I wouldn't think they are trash. But everything that came afterwards is PTFB bullshit.

Just a terrible post.

So the run of 8 awesome albums is washed out by the last 3?

All that You Cant Leave Behind was great, too.

With this system of judging, youd have to say The Rolling Stones are trash.


U2 is top 5 Rock Band of all time and anyone who disagrees is a Nazi

Author:  rogers park bryan [ Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:49 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
Then ignore all the bad stuff (and the cutoff is '95, not '92). I've not once listened to No Line on the Horizon because I figured it must suck.

Its uh....ya know. A Joshua tree cover album.

ATYCLB was good though

Author:  Hatchetman [ Mon Mar 06, 2017 4:54 pm ]
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I like Tunnel of Love.

Author:  lipidquadcab [ Mon Mar 06, 2017 5:40 pm ]
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I'm in the minority but give me "How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb" over any other U2 album, save Achtung Baby.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:00 am ]
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lipidquadcab wrote:
I'm in the minority but give me "How To Dismantle An Atomic Bomb" over any other U2 album, save Achtung Baby.
Swap out 'Bomb' and put 'Pop' in those quotes and I feel the exact same way.

You cannot honestly call U2 trash. Not liking them, or Bono, or saying they are overrated and/or overloved is a different story. I am not a Rush fan by any means, but they certainly are not trash. I PTFB on them every single damn time they are on the radio and I would rather Chinese water torture for a year than listen to Tom Sawyer three consecutive times, but I cannot call them trash.

Author:  Brick [ Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:04 am ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
Then ignore all the bad stuff (and the cutoff is '95, not '92). I've not once listened to No Line on the Horizon because I figured it must suck.
I'm not sure you can say ignore 20 years of their music so easily.

If they were so great why create two decades of garbage?

Author:  Curious Hair [ Tue Mar 07, 2017 10:30 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Then ignore all the bad stuff (and the cutoff is '95, not '92). I've not once listened to No Line on the Horizon because I figured it must suck.
I'm not sure you can say ignore 20 years of their music so easily.

If they were so great why create two decades of garbage?


I dunno, happens in rock music. And fortunately, twenty years only ends up being five kinda-not-great albums (and I don't even think some of those are bad, just not great) against nine in fifteen years that are pretty great. I don't think the mere existence of Songs of Innocence diminishes The Joshua Tree in any way.

Author:  Douchebag [ Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:27 am ]
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Jaw Breaker wrote:
badrogue17 wrote:
Drunk Squirrel wrote:
There would be a lot of bands/singers that would be dog crap if you focused on their later years vs earlier years. I tend to grab a hold of what I like when it comes to music and pretend the rest never happened.

REM at the top of that list .


I feel that way about Rush. With rare example (e.g., Nobody's Hero, The Garden), I can hardly listen to anything post-Signals.

And Elton John.

Those are probably the most glaring for me...but as brogue said, MANY artists follow that pattern.

Any artist from the 60's that was still releasing music in the 80's. Lots of bad there in that decade.

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