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Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:12 am ]
Post subject:  Camper Van Beethoven/Cracker

Thinking of seeing them at Lincoln Hall on the 12th if there are still tickets available. I'm dragging my feet because it's listed as both bands and I'm dreading the thought of it being mostly Cracker. They're both more or less band-as-solo-artist-pseudonym bands, why was one so great and the other so bad? It's like if the Twilight Singers were the absolute drizzling shits for some reason.

Author:  Brick [ Wed Jan 01, 2020 6:29 am ]
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Uncle Cracker is pretty good. Have fun.

Author:  GoldenJet [ Wed Jan 01, 2020 9:55 am ]
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I like Cracker better

Author:  Furious Styles [ Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:00 am ]
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You can watch Lowery fiddle with his MacBook in both bands.

Eye of Fatima is my jam.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:03 am ]
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Furious Styles wrote:
You can watch Lowery fiddle with his MacBook in both bands.

Eye of Fatima is my jam.


"All Her Favorite Fruit" is far and away the best Camper Van Beethoven song and if they didn't play it I would feel severely ripped off. I'm sure I've mentioned many times before that Key Lime Pie is one of my favorite albums of all time. If they were playing the album straight through, I'd go no questions asked.

"Eye of Fatima" is really good, as are most songs on OBRS, but there's a lot of filler there that I can do without. The whole end of "She Divines Water" is just useless noodling.

GoldenJet wrote:
I like Cracker better

This post is not what the world needs now.

Author:  Hussra [ Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:51 am ]
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Putting Cracker on the bill ups the available tonnage.

Author:  GoldenJet [ Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:18 am ]
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I really like Johnny Hickman's guitar stylings.

Author:  KDdidit [ Wed Jan 01, 2020 12:34 pm ]
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Got big lanes.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Jan 01, 2020 12:35 pm ]
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KDdidit wrote:
Got big lanes.

Look the same.

Author:  ZephMarshack [ Wed Jan 01, 2020 10:36 pm ]
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I think I heard Milne or someone else on XRT proclaim he thought "Teen Angst" was the greatest power pop song ever a few weeks ago, which is completely outlandish.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:04 pm ]
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He wouldn't have picked something by Material Issue?!? For shame. "Teen Angst" isn't even in Lowery's top ten.

The greatest power-pop song ever is "Alex Chilton."

Author:  Telegram Sam [ Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:36 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
He wouldn't have picked something by Material Issue?!? For shame. "Teen Angst" isn't even in Lowery's top ten.

The greatest power-pop song ever is "Alex Chilton."


Yeah, I wouldn't call "Teen Angst" a power pop staple, it's too world weary. I'd go maybe "Good Girls Don't" or "Girlfriend."

Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Jan 01, 2020 11:48 pm ]
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"Teen Angst" isn't even in the same power-pop stratosphere as "Just What I Needed." This is making me inordinately mad. How I dislike Cracker.

Author:  Telegram Sam [ Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:06 am ]
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"Girlfriend" might really be the best. It just soars.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:14 am ]
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Yeah, "Girlfriend" is really good. Up there for sure.

I remember one time many years ago Lin played "Divine Intervention" coming out of a Lin's Bin. That was really cool, I love that riff.

Maybe because it's a song of my youth and I know it's barely more than a Cars pastiche but I'm extremely partial to "Stacy's Mom."

Author:  Telegram Sam [ Thu Jan 02, 2020 12:24 am ]
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I haven't been to Lincoln Hall, but that show is going to practically be a home game for Lowery, he'll go a little deep. Probably be a good crowd. You should go.

Author:  Rod [ Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:33 am ]
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Telegram Sam wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
He wouldn't have picked something by Material Issue?!? For shame. "Teen Angst" isn't even in Lowery's top ten.

The greatest power-pop song ever is "Alex Chilton."


Yeah, I wouldn't call "Teen Angst" a power pop staple, it's too world weary. I'd go maybe "Good Girls Don't" or "Girlfriend."


Those are two good ones. I wouldn't call "Alex Chilton" power pop either. It just rocks too hard.

If I were forced to pick the greatest power pop song I might go with something by Elvis Costello or maybe "Go All The Way", which might be the greatest rock song of any kind.

Author:  Rod [ Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:36 am ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
Maybe because it's a song of my youth and I know it's barely more than a Cars pastiche but I'm extremely partial to "Stacy's Mom."


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7vVJ2Om-QVg

Author:  Rod [ Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:40 am ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
"Teen Angst" isn't even in the same power-pop stratosphere as "Just What I Needed." This is making me inordinately mad. How I dislike Cracker.


I prefer Camper too, but your dislike for Cracker seems almost irrational.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:59 am ]
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Oh, it's completely irrational. I can't even put a finger on why Cracker bothers me so much. Probably because they caught on and CVB didn't really.

Author:  tommy [ Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:51 am ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
Oh, it's completely irrational. I can't even put a finger on why Cracker bothers me so much. Probably because they caught on and CVB didn't really.

Camper caught on, or at least seemed to, on college campuses.

Cracker was a bigger part of the zeitgeist. Right time, right place, right lyrics, right sound. I always liked them, though they seemed a bit interchangeable with every other band.

Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Thu Jan 02, 2020 10:55 am ]
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I always had a tendency to mix up Cracker with Candlebox.

Author:  tommy [ Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:01 am ]
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sjboyd0137 wrote:
I always had a tendency to mix up Cracker with Candlebox.

And Collective Soul.

Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:06 am ]
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tommy wrote:
sjboyd0137 wrote:
I always had a tendency to mix up Cracker with Candlebox.

And Collective Soul.


They all sounded the same. Collective Soul tended to lean more towards the lighter side...similar to a Gin Blossoms or Toad the Wet Sprocket.

I did really dig Soul Asylum.

Author:  Curious Hair [ Thu Jan 02, 2020 11:10 am ]
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Animal Collective Soul Coughing

Author:  BigW72 [ Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:22 pm ]
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the first half of Cracker's S/T debut.....that's about as good as it gets, man.

"I'd really like to see you now. In your father's combat boots"

Author:  Furious Styles [ Thu Jan 02, 2020 1:24 pm ]
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Cracker sounds nothing like Collective Soul.

Author:  GoldenJet [ Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:02 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote:
Yeah, "Girlfriend" is really good. Up there for sure.

I remember one time many years ago Lin played "Divine Intervention" coming out of a Lin's Bin. That was really cool, I love that riff.

Maybe because it's a song of my youth and I know it's barely more than a Cars pastiche but I'm extremely partial to "Stacy's Mom."


GIRLFRIEND is a near perfect album. It was also the soundtrack to a relationship I got caught up in at the time. From perfectly amazing to perfectly heart wrenching.

Still love FOW too.

Author:  Rod [ Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:12 pm ]
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GoldenJet wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Yeah, "Girlfriend" is really good. Up there for sure.

I remember one time many years ago Lin played "Divine Intervention" coming out of a Lin's Bin. That was really cool, I love that riff.

Maybe because it's a song of my youth and I know it's barely more than a Cars pastiche but I'm extremely partial to "Stacy's Mom."


GIRLFRIEND is a near perfect album. It was also the soundtrack to a relationship I got caught up in at the time. From perfectly amazing to perfectly heart wrenching.

Still love FOW too.


I played the hell out of Girlfriend when it came out too.

Author:  GoldenJet [ Thu Jan 02, 2020 2:37 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
GoldenJet wrote:
Curious Hair wrote:
Yeah, "Girlfriend" is really good. Up there for sure.

I remember one time many years ago Lin played "Divine Intervention" coming out of a Lin's Bin. That was really cool, I love that riff.

Maybe because it's a song of my youth and I know it's barely more than a Cars pastiche but I'm extremely partial to "Stacy's Mom."


GIRLFRIEND is a near perfect album. It was also the soundtrack to a relationship I got caught up in at the time. From perfectly amazing to perfectly heart wrenching.

Still love FOW too.


I played the hell out of Girlfriend when it came out too.


This one is still a beautifully packaged, emotional kick to the gut.

Quote:
I thought I knew you
But I was in for a suprise
I let my love flow
From my heart into your eyes
And then I found out
That there was nothing I could know
Or guess about you
You'd go as far as you could go

And it took me years to figure out
That there was nothing
I could give to you
Years to figure out
That there was nothing
You would take from me
And how can I describe
The way you slowly put
My hope away
And all of the time
I thought I knew you

I thought I knew you
But I wasn't even close
I had my heart set
On little more than a ghost
And I thought I'd show you
There was no way we could lose
I thought I'd force you
To realize and choose

And it took me years to figure out
That there was nothing
I could show to you
Years to figure out
That you were never really
Going to choose
And how can I describe
The way I slowly lost
My love for you
And all of the time
I thought I knew you


And it took me years to figure out
That there was nothing
I could show to you
Years to figure out
That you were never
Really going to choose
And how can I describe
The way I slowly lost
My love for you
And all of the time
I thought I knew you

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