They will never stop finding ways to repackage the Beatles as long as people keep lapping it up. We need to stop. This band is not worth anywhere near the attention it receives.

They will never stop finding ways to repackage the Beatles as long as people keep lapping it up. We need to stop. This band is not worth anywhere near the attention it receives.

I'm usually on board with your thoughts but that last one is eligible for a worst of the year nomination.

No band in the history of music deserves the worshipful reverence The Beatles receive. I consider them to be a very good band and I understand they blazed a lot of ground, but much of what they did has been improved upon in subsequent years and there's no need to go back and revisit or reinterpret their catalog every decade. I judge classic rock by its historical importance and by whether or not I actually want to spend time listening to it. I go back and listen to: The Rolling Stones, Dylan, Springsteen, The Who, and to a lesser extent The Velvet Underground regularly. However, I never have any desire to listen to The Beatles.

As I said above, they're a very good band, but they're not head and shoulders better than the bands/artists I listed above.

Why are you all so angry?

If Taylor Swift put out another video, would you give a shit? It is fucking harmless and I honestly don't get the angst. I think they (Paul and Ringo) are financially ok, so I don't get the sense it is a money grab from them. Whatever.

I'm not angry. I don't have to be angry. I consider the matter of the Beatles' greatness to be pretty firmly settled. And besides, I've never been crazy about the Stones, so I get it.

It's like when I get shit because, while I can acknowledge how important the Beatles are to music, I get shit on for essentially saying I never want to hear anything they wrote again...and Hey Jude is the 5th biggest piece of shit in music history.

It's absolutely unlistenable.

It's like when I get shit because, while I can acknowledge how important the Beatles are to music, I get shit on for essentially saying I never want to hear anything they wrote again...and Hey Jude is the 5th biggest piece of shit in music history.

Same. It's great that they're historically important, but if I live another 40 years and die without ever hearing another Beatles song again, I wouldn't even notice.

The Beatles were more about timing than them somehow doing something no one else could have. That's why everyone has to rely on how "influential" they were like music would somehow not exist without them inventing everything besides rap music in the past 70 years in regards to music.

But you don't like music, though.

Well that’s the point, Brick. The band you’re referring to is the Beatles clone that was spawned by the Beatles. Even before they were the Beatles they were doing the same kind of boundary pushing as the Quarrymen.

What is the point? The Beatles were heavily influenced by others. They were then heavy influences on others. That's how it has worked for the history of humanity.

They were a great band who came around at the perfect time. That's why I used the Vince Lombardi example. He was a great coach who came around at the perfect time. That doesn't mean that it was impossible for him ever to be supplanted as the greatest coach.

They started the British Invasion. It’s likely we don’t get the Kinks, the Who or The Rolling Stones without Beatlemania coming across the pond.

You can argue all you want about how you like or dislike the music. But their impact is historic. Timing is everything, but so is having that sound.