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| Author: | doug - evergreen park [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 8:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Jay-Z Blueprint III |
never had a Jay-Z album before...two listens and I already love his stuff as much as N.E.R.D. so good. go get it. |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
doug - evergreen park wrote: never had a Jay-Z album before...two listens and I already love his stuff as much as N.E.R.D. so good. go get it. Very solid album. That's pretty much all I've been listening to for the past 2 weeks. Hence the 'Already Home' quote in my sig... |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:21 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
doug - evergreen park wrote: never had a Jay-Z album before...two listens and I already love his stuff as much as N.E.R.D. so good. go get it. Wow. You gotta go and get some older stuff then. Get Blueprint I, The Black Album, and American Gangster. You will thank me later. |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:26 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: doug - evergreen park wrote: never had a Jay-Z album before...two listens and I already love his stuff as much as N.E.R.D. so good. go get it. Wow. You gotta go and get some older stuff then. Get Blueprint I, The Black Album, and American Gangster. You will thank me later. No 'Reasonable Doubt' or 'In My Lifetime: Vol. 1' love? Jay has only had like 2 below average albums, IMO. |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:28 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
Krazy Ivan wrote: No 'Reasonable Doubt' or 'In My Lifetime: Vol. 1' love? Jay has only had like 2 below average albums, IMO. Meh. Reasonable Doubt was aaight but there was some better hip hop out around the same time that overshadowed it. Doug, just don't ever buy the Kingdome Come album. For the love of God, don't! |
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| Author: | doug - evergreen park [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:29 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
i love the chick singers... |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Doug, just don't ever buy the Kingdome Come album. For the love of God, don't! Agreed. And steer clear of 'Roc-La-Familia'. Eewww... |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Krazy Ivan wrote: No 'Reasonable Doubt' or 'In My Lifetime: Vol. 1' love? Jay has only had like 2 below average albums, IMO. Meh. Reasonable Doubt was aaight but there was some better hip hop out around the same time that overshadowed it. Doug, just don't ever buy the Kingdome Come album. For the love of God, don't! Reasonable Doubt is Jay Z's best album...What are you talking about kid? Doug get Reasonable Doubt next then work your way forward chronologically...skipping Kingdom Come. But it gets no better than Reasonable Doubt for Jay Z IM (CORRECT)O |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
The Black Album and American Gangster are my favs. I wasn't into Jay-Z when Reasonable Doubt came out. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: The Black Album and American Gangster are my favs. Racist The Original Kid Cairo wrote: I wasn't into Jay-Z when Reasonable Doubt came out. I wasnt either...I dismissed him as GLAM RAP and didnt like where hip hop/rap was going. But eventually I got Reasonable Doubt and loved it. Bring it On is one of my top 37 rap songs of all time. |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:44 am ] |
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37? Such an odd number... |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: I wasn't into Jay-Z when Reasonable Doubt came out. Very few people were really into Jay before Hard Knock Life. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
Krazy Ivan wrote: Very few people were really into Jay before Hard Knock Life. Oh But YOU were right Ivan  God I hate You. But seriously Jay-Z wrote: “I gave you prophecy on my first joint, and ya’ll lamed out/ Didn’t really appreciate it, ’til the second one came out/ ”
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
You're right. Hard Knock Life was his first solid hit but at the time, I did acknowledge that Jay-Z had skills. He out-rapped Biggie Smalls on that song Young G's. In fact, it seems every featured artist out-rapped Biggie Smalls. Eminem KILLED Biggie on that song Dead Wrong. Biggie Smalls = Overrated. Yeah, I fucking said it! |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:55 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: You're right. Hard Knock Life was his first solid hit but at the time, I did acknowledge that Jay-Z had skills. He out-rapped Biggie Smalls on that song Young G's. In fact, it seems every featured artist out-rapped Biggie Smalls. Eminem KILLED Biggie on that song Dead Wrong. Biggie Smalls = Overrated. Yeah, I fucking said it! I like Biggie but Method Man killed on "the what" incidentally the hypnotize remix feat 2pac and Snoop is pretty good. |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
rogers park bryan wrote: Krazy Ivan wrote: Very few people were really into Jay before Hard Knock Life. Oh But YOU were right Ivan God I hate You. But seriously Jay-Z wrote: “I gave you prophecy on my first joint, and ya’ll lamed out/ Didn’t really appreciate it, ’til the second one came out/ ” Truth be told, I had In My Lifetime first and didn't get RD till later. Too busy listening to Outkast and Goodie Mob around that time... |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:58 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
Krazy Ivan wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Krazy Ivan wrote: Very few people were really into Jay before Hard Knock Life. Oh But YOU were right Ivan God I hate You. But seriously Jay-Z wrote: “I gave you prophecy on my first joint, and ya’ll lamed out/ Didn’t really appreciate it, ’til the second one came out/ ” Truth be told, I had In My Lifetime first and didn't get RD till later. Too busy listening to Outkast and watching Mad About You and Wings fixed. |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Biggie Smalls = Overrated. Yeah, I fucking said it! Thank you for saying that. 2 albums does not make a legend. I don't really count the one with all the guests that Puffy threw together. Em did kill Biggie on Dead Wrong. He also killed Jay on Renegade... |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:01 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
rogers park bryan wrote: I like Biggie but Method Man killed on "the what" Yeah, Method's verses were sick. See what I mean? Biggie Smalls wasn't anything special. Rappers that were/are better than Biggie Smalls: Eminem Method Man Jay-Z Raekwon Ghostface Redman 2-Pac Nas Mos Def L.L. Kurupt Aasim Termanology Outkast Twista Buk (of Psychodrama) Kweli Lupe Royce Da 5'9" Kid Cairo  Need I continue? |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:08 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: I like Biggie but Method Man killed on "the what" Yeah, Method's verses were sick. See what I mean? Biggie Smalls wasn't anything special. Rappers that were/are better than Biggie Smalls: Eminem Method Man Jay-Z Raekwon Ghostface Redman 2-Pac Nas Mos Def L.L. Kurupt Aasim Termanology Outkast Twista Buk (of Psychodrama) Kweli Lupe Royce Da 5'9" Kid Cairo Need I continue? GZA I agree most of those guys are better, although Kurupt's solo albums were HUGE disappointments, and i dont care for Twista But you guys may be going too far the other way now. Biggie was good. Overrated? Yes. But still very good. |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
Good call on GZA. I also forgot about Big Pun. Biggie Smalls was good. That's just it. Good. Not great, not awesome...just good. |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
I agree with most of those, save Twista. His lyrics are sub par, his flow is good. I thought it was ridiculous how Biggie was put on the same level as Pac when he died. Ridiculous. Biggie was very good, not one of the greatest. Not a big enough body of work... |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:14 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
Krazy Ivan wrote: I agree with most of those, save Twista. His lyrics are sub par, his flow is good. I thought it was ridiculous how Biggie was put on the same level as Pac when he died. Ridiculous. Biggie was very good, not one of the greatest. Not a big enough body of work... Biggie= Terrell Davis 2 pac= John Elway Method Man= Jerry Rice Ghostface=Lawrence Taylor RZA= George Hallas Nas= Ronnie Lott 40 Cents=Cade McNown |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:19 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
rogers park bryan wrote: Krazy Ivan wrote: I agree with most of those, save Twista. His lyrics are sub par, his flow is good. I thought it was ridiculous how Biggie was put on the same level as Pac when he died. Ridiculous. Biggie was very good, not one of the greatest. Not a big enough body of work... So Biggie= Terrell Davis 2 pac= Elway Maybe. It seems like people were really quick try to make guys hip hop legends back in the 90's when they had one great album. This is what happened to Nas at first. Illmatic was great, then he came out with a bunch of booty. All the people who labeld him great were like 'Uh oh' because they made him 'one of the best' too soon. Luckily, he redeemed himself with Stillmatic and God's Son... |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
Krazy Ivan wrote: This is what happened to Nas at first. Illmatic was great, then he came out with a bunch of booty. All the people who labeld him great were like 'Uh oh' because they made him 'one of the best' too soon. Luckily, he redeemed himself with Stillmatic and God's Son... You didn't like It Was Written or I Am? |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Krazy Ivan wrote: This is what happened to Nas at first. Illmatic was great, then he came out with a bunch of booty. All the people who labeld him great were like 'Uh oh' because they made him 'one of the best' too soon. Luckily, he redeemed himself with Stillmatic and God's Son... You didn't like It Was Written or I Am? nope. |
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| Author: | W_Z [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 9:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
blueprint 3? he hasn't built the fuckin' thing yet? |
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| Author: | Mr. Hernandez [ Fri Sep 18, 2009 10:03 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: I like Biggie but Method Man killed on "the what" Yeah, Method's verses were sick. See what I mean? Biggie Smalls wasn't anything special. Rappers that were/are better than Biggie Smalls: Eminem Method Man Jay-Z Raekwon Ghostface Redman 2-Pac Nas Mos Def L.L. Kurupt Aasim Termanology Outkast Twista Buk (of Psychodrama) Kweli Lupe Royce Da 5'9" Kid Cairo Need I continue? Please tell me you're joking cuz this is the most ridiculous shit I've ever read on this board. I'll give you Pac, Nas, Jay as far as bein on BIG's level and Em, Andre, Ghost and maybe Mos for bein close but the rest should never be mentioned in the same sentence(except for Aasim and Termanology. never heard of them) |
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| Author: | Free Ajent [ Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:25 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: I like Biggie but Method Man killed on "the what" Yeah, Method's verses were sick. See what I mean? Biggie Smalls wasn't anything special. Rappers that were/are better than Biggie Smalls: Eminem Method ManJay-Z Raekwon Ghostface Redman 2-Pac Nas Mos Def L.L. Kurupt Aasim Termanology Outkast Twista Buk (of Psychodrama) Kweli Lupe Royce Da 5'9" Kid Cairo (need a to see a better body of work)  Need I continue? My list would not include those.I look as OutKast as a group, not an artist,thou one of my top groups ever. |
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| Author: | shirtless driver [ Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:30 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Jay-Z Blueprint III |
Is a duo technically a group? Maybe Shark can ask the RIAA. |
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