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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Hip Hop Beefs |
Was reading up on some old Ghostface fueds and the stories are hilarious Ghost throwing 50 down the stairs Killa Sin breaking Mace's jaw What are your favorite fueds and lines? Nas vs. Jay Z and Biggie vs. Pac are the big ones. But there are a ton of other lesser known feuds 50cent is terrible |
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| Author: | Brick [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:11 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hip Hop Beefs |
Nelly vs. no one - Everyone else is too scared to get embarrassed. |
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| Author: | Urlacher's missing neck [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:20 pm ] |
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: Nelly vs. no one - Everyone else is too scared to get embarrassed. They should be embarrassed. There are few talents throughout history that could have written something so amazing as this. Quote: "The Champ"
Let’s go [Verse 1] Ever since I was a kid I’ve been dreaming about this First day of practice I was thinking about this Picture on the news, yeah they see about this Even in the paper they won’t read about this Cause all of my life Training day and night I’m preparing to fight For everyone I believed in I was going insane, they were screaming our name While were spraying champagne There’s nothing nobody can say [Chorus] Cause today is the day Is the day that I have always dreamed of forever When you call me, You call me the champ of the world I can raise my hands I can scream I’m the best in the world Whole world All my blood, sweat and grind Was all for this time [Verse 2] Lap after lap, mile after mile Push up after push up Everybody count it out Everybody up, now we back down All my pain and sweat was for this moment right now All from different places well we came with each other We came together as a team, But we’re leaving as brothers Standing next to one another while we hold up our colors I’m gon’ look in to the camera and tell my mama I love her [Chorus] Cause today is the day Is the day that I have always dreamed of forever When you call me, You call me the champ of the world I can raise my hands I can scream I’m the best in the world Whole world All my blood, sweat and grind Was all for this time Today is the day Is the day that I have always dreamed of forever When you call me, You call me the champ of the world I can raise my hands I can scream I’m the best in the world Whole world All my blood, sweat and grind Was all for this time Today is the day Is the day that I have always dreamed of forever When you call me, You call me the champ of the world I can raise my hands I can scream I’m the best in the world Whole world All my blood, sweat and grind Was all for this time |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hip Hop Beefs |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: Nelly vs. no one - Everyone else is too scared to get embarrassed. Gza wrote: Shape and mold MC's, like I'm playing the skelly top
It's getting 'hot in here' like the single that Nelly dropped So take ya clothes off, that track is so soft A little rock'll turn 'em into Ivan Koloff |
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| Author: | Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hip Hop Beefs |
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| Author: | Brick [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hip Hop Beefs |
Urlacher's missing neck wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: Nelly vs. no one - Everyone else is too scared to get embarrassed. They should be embarrassed. There are few talents throughout history that could have written something so amazing as this. Trouble in paradise in the Boilermaker Rick household. Every Nelly song is a treasure. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 12:27 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hip Hop Beefs |
Here is what Wiki lists as its examples. Some glaring ommisions but this is a nice base 1 Boogie Down Productions vs. The Juice Crew 2 N.W.A. vs. Ice Cube 3 Eazy-E vs. Dr. Dre 4 "East Coast vs. West Coast" 5 Nas vs. Jay-Z 6 Benzino vs. Eminem 7 LL Cool J vs. Kool Moe Dee 8 LL Cool J vs. Canibus 9 50 Cent & G-Unit vs. Ja Rule & Murder Inc. 10 G-Unit vs. The Game 11 Lil' Kim vs. Nicki Minaj |
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| Author: | Rod [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:22 pm ] |
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Mac Dre vs. Fat Tone |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:32 pm ] |
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote: Mac Dre vs. Fat Tone YOu know its a good BEEF when one murders the other....literally |
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| Author: | sinicalypse [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hip Hop Beefs |
i would like to toss in my vote for no vaseline. that's a good song. in the movie "beef" there's a funny scene where they're interviewing cube high as shit in his car, and he's talking about NWA and it's like "what are you gonna do? go solo?" * cube smiles * then the announcer comes on and talks about how much amerikkka's most wanted sold. cube's grin growed. i damn near fell off the chair. i also liked that moment when eminem, 50 cent, and busta rhymes teamed up and teabagged ja rule on the hail mary beat. that was great. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hip Hop Beefs |
It's only in the testosterone-driven world of hip-hop that you earn accolades by verbally attacking your peers. In honor of rap battles, I've compiled a shortlist of epic feuds that rocked the music world. Here are the greatest hip-hop battles of all time. 10. Kool Moe Dee vs. Busy Bee It's impossible to discuss the greatest hip-hop battles without mentioning the historic showdown between Kool Moe Dee and Busy Bee. In 1981, back when every rhyme ended with "in the place to be," two MCs took the stage and, in an 8 Mile-style contest, pioneered what we now know as battle rap. Busy Bee entertained the audience with his crowd-pleasing raps, but Moe Dee made mince meat out of him with his ruthless, hardcore lyrics. Winner: Kool Moe Dee 9. Eminem vs. 'The Source' This is probably the most absurd of all the battles on this list, considering that Eminem launched his rap career on the pages of The Source, which featured him in its 'Unsigned Hype' column in March 1998. The honeymoon came to a halt after Source co-founder Raymond "Benzino" Scott started hurling disses at Eminem on wax and via the magazine. While Slim Shady had no music rag to hurl back at Benzino, he had something Benzino lacked: rhyming skills. Shady struck back with a brigade of insults, including "Nail in the Coffin" and "The Sauce." As the beef progressed, The Source lost readership and alienated advertisers. Benzino's music career took a nosedive, while Eminem's rap career flourished. Winner: Eminem 8. Eazy-E vs. Dr. Dre After a nasty breakup, ex-NWA partners Eazy-E and Dr. Dre traded insults non-stop. Just when it looked like Dre had sealed the deal with "Dre’s Day," Eazy-E fought back with "Real Muthaf--kin' Gs." Eazy attacked Dre and Snoop, dubbing them studio gangsters who had never really witnessed the harsh realities of the 'hood. As if that wasn't enough, he devoted plenty of airtime to Dre's past as a member of the electro-pop group World Class Wrecking Cru', ridiculing Dre's fruity outfit. “Damn it’s a trip how a n---a can go so quick from wearing lipstick to smoking on chronic at picnics," he rapped. Eazy threw in a pic of Dre dressed in pumps and mascara to boot. (Imagine if Eazy-E had Photoshop in 1992.) Winner: Dr. Dre 7. Canibus vs LL Cool J Canibus is known for battling himself on wax, but he truly earned his stripes by squaring off against Uncle L in his prime. The odds were heavily stacked against Bis until he unleashed "Second Round KO," which featured Mike Tyson. This lyrical uppercut is something like a blueprint for some of today's illest rhyme pugilists. Winner: Canibus 6. Common vs. Westside Connection History teaches us that one surefire way to draw the ire of a fellow MC is to publicly indict them for hip-hop's demise. It worked for Soulja Boy and Ice T in 2009, just as it worked for Common and Westside Connection in 1995. The beef stemmed from Common's lyrics on "I Use to Love H.E.R.," which Ice Cube claimed was a subliminal diss to the west coast. Cue "Westside Slaughterhouse," a vicious attack on Common, replete with the grimiest rap video ever made. Common locked himself in a studio with Pete Rock and proceeded to hand Westside Connection a lyrical beatdown on "The B*tch in Yoo." Winner: Common 5. Ice Cube vs. N.W.A. Eazy-E and NWA's management rubbed Ice Cube the wrong way and then had the nerve to dis the group's best lyricist on "100 Miles & Runnin'." Cube initiated a flame-throwing match with his former allies and came out unscathed. With "No Vaseline," Cube single-handedly annihilated an entire group. A rare feat which has never been replicated since then. Winner: Ice Cube 4. Kool Moe Dee vs. LL Cool J Prior to his feud with LL Cool J, Kool Moe had dismantled a modest Busy Bee in a freestyle contest. This time, KMD's adversary was Bigger and Deffer. Kool Moe alleged that Cool J stole his style and decided to teach the 19-year old MC a lesson via the lyrical whiplash titled "How Ya Like Me Now." LL fired back with the instant classic "To Da Breakadawn." Kool Moe Dee wouldn't let LL have the final word, so he struck again with "Let's Go." LL hit him even harder with "Jack the Ripper," in which he ridiculed Moe Dee's trademark Star Trek shades. By the time Moe Dee returned with "Death Blow," Cool J had already hung the "L" on his neck and rocked his bells. Winner: LL Cool J 3. Boogie Down Productions vs. Juice Crew As is often the case in hip-hop, this historic beef was mainly an offspring of bragging rights. It pitted one New York borough against another. KRS-One instigated the battle after claiming that MC Shan's song "The Juice" wrongly credited Queensbridge, instead of South Bronx, as hip-hop's birthplace. Consequently, BDP took Shan and co to the cleaners with the raw dis "South Bronx." Shan struck back with "Kill That Noise," thus setting up BDP for the classic "The Bridge is Over," which delivered the final blow to Shan's rap career. Winner: Boogie Down Productions 2. 2Pac vs. Biggie © InterscopeThe 2Pac vs Biggie feud was unique in so many ways. Interestingly, Pac's tactic was the antithesis of Big's approach. Not one to bite his tongue, Pac kept his insults as explicit and aggressive as possible. (Who could forget "Hit 'Em Up"'s opening lines "That's why I f---ked your wife, you fat muthaf---a"?) Biggie, on the other hand, stung Pac with subliminal disses, often delivered in a poised manner. This was arguably the most influential hip-hop feud ever. It affected entire regions, wrecked relationships, and changed lives forever. Winner: 2Pac 1. Jay-Z vs. Nas Before the Def Jam deal. Before the Power 105 lovefest. Before the colossal collaborations, Nas and Jay-Z were die-hard rivals. There are many theories on why Jay-Z and Nas suddenly found themselves embroiled in one of the most memorable feuds in music history. Was Nas jealous of Jay’s commercial exploits? Did Jay dis Nas' baby mama on "Is That Your Chick”? The two New York giants traded insults for years and came short of challenging each other to a lyrical duel on HBO. The quest for supremacy gave rise to two of the greatest battle tracks in history: Jay-Z's "Takeover" and Nas' "Ether." Thanks to Kanye's hard-hitting drums, "Takeover" was musically superior to "Ether," but Nas was lyrically superior to Jay. Winner: Nas I agree with all the winners except Dre over Eazy. Real Muthaphuckin G's and this picture make it an eazy win for Eazy 
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hip Hop Beefs |
I know im being a Wu homer But I thouroghly enjoyed all the Owning of 50 cent that Wu has done over the years Ghost pushes him down the stairs American Cream Team murders him on who the fuck is 50 cent? Gza kills him on Paper Plates Enough to make you Vogue on the cover of GQ Only missin' the sheer blouse. Homie, you see-through Stop sippin' on that Formula 50 They want heat, I'll give it to them burnt and crispy Rhymes too short to box with God, so stretch it Especially these overrated rap steppin fetchers I told you if I rain, there'll be an eternal drizzle Woodwork strips being chipped with sharp chisels. One verse shatter your spine and crush your spirit No matter what, you still Window Shop for lyrics If you's a pimp, put chicks on a stroll And if those your soldiers, give 'em bigger guns to hold Who Shot Ya? You don't have enough on your roster You move like a Fed, but you talk like a mobster That Yayo slangin, please abort it Too many cuts on it, cokeheads they won't snort it Spray the Flea-Unit with pesticides You can get your best ghostwriters, get them all to testify Have you ever been stung by a thousand hornets? Five hundred killa bees, buzzin' and really on it Whipped with CUBAN LINX, cut with LIQUID SWORDS Choked by IRONMAN 'til we crush your vocal cords |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hip Hop Beefs |
sinicalypse wrote: i would like to toss in my vote for no vaseline. that's a good song. in the movie "beef" there's a funny scene where they're interviewing cube high as shit in his car, and he's talking about NWA and it's like "what are you gonna do? go solo?" * cube smiles * then the announcer comes on and talks about how much amerikkka's most wanted sold. cube's grin growed. i damn near fell off the chair. i also liked that moment when eminem, 50 cent, and busta rhymes teamed up and teabagged ja rule on the hail mary beat. that was great. The first time I heard No Vaseline I didnt even know it was a diss track going in.....that shit bumps even without the stinging lyrics context |
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| Author: | Rod [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hip Hop Beefs |
Luke vs. Dr. Dre |
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| Author: | sinicalypse [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hip Hop Beefs |
FREESTYLE FELLOWSHIP VS THE WU-TANG CLAN!!!!!!!!! oh wait, that wasn't as much a battle as it was an absolute smackdown of the lesser wus... they got clowned so hard they didn't even get the mic back @ the end. i love it when killah priest chokes on his written and just starts it over again =D |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:41 pm ] |
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sinicalypse wrote: FREESTYLE FELLOWSHIP VS 2 Affiliates of the Wu Tang Clan!!!!! oh wait, that wasn't as much a battle as it was an absolute smackdown of the lesser wus... they got clowned so hard they didn't even get the mic back @ the end. i love it when killah priest chokes on his written and just starts it over again =D Fixed that for you. Man you really hate the WU. You are far more concerned with them than me. How did the best MC's in Wu tang: Ghostface, Method Man, Raekwon and Gza do in that one? Oh they werent there? Right Convenient that you left that out. Also, the belief is that Cappa compeletely fucked up that thing on purpose because he was disenchanted with the Wu. It makes sense if you look at the timeline of his leavign and re entering Wu. So yes, your guys are better at freestyling than fringe members of the Wu. Congrats. |
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| Author: | HOVA [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:46 pm ] |
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Saying Dre got the best of Easy is a joke. |
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| Author: | sinicalypse [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:48 pm ] |
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rpb, did you not notice that i said that the FF clowned "the lesser wu's" ?? i never said they took on the actual wu-tang clan. btw if you listen to that, everyone's boy common sense shows up and kicks his own solid freestyles in three. that was one of my oldschool realaudio tapejobs du jour =D |
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| Author: | HOVA [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hip Hop Beefs |
If the Jay-Z and Nas beef is limited to Takeover and Ether than Nasty easily wins. If we're looking at the entire body of work during the beef then Jay-Z wins. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:51 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hip Hop Beefs |
sinicalypse wrote: rpb, did you not notice that i said that the FF clowned "the lesser wu's" ?? i never said they took on the actual wu-tang clan. btw if you listen to that, everyone's boy common sense shows up and kicks his own solid freestyles in three. that was one of my oldschool realaudio tapejobs du jour =D Now I feel bad. I assumed you were just saying the entire Wu are lesser than FF My mistake. There is a good thread on that on Wu Corp. That Cappa thing is interesting. Did he throw the set? I like Killah Priest but he strikes me as the last guy who should be freestyling |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:53 pm ] |
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HOVA wrote: If the Jay-Z and Nas beef is limited to Takeover and Ether than Nasty easily wins. If we're looking at the entire body of work during the beef then Jay-Z wins. Nas is a better rapper than Jay Z in every way. And I cant believe youre trying to include the mixtape and radio freestyles to make Jay Z win. They both released produced tracks on full length albums dedicated to the fued. Jay lost. Everyone knows it. |
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| Author: | HOVA [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 2:58 pm ] |
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They both put out mix tape tracks too. Jay destroyed Nas on those and the freestyle. Nas is my favorite rapper but numbers prove Jay is better. We've had this debate a million times so I will let it go. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:00 pm ] |
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HOVA wrote: They both put out mix tape tracks too. Jay destroyed Nas on those and the freestyle. Nas is my favorite rapper but numbers prove Jay is better. We've had this debate a million times so I will let it go. Yeah I was just gonna post that we are both clearly biased so who cares what we think. But, I cant not respond to the bolded portion. I have to say, again. Numbers = Sucess but numbers do not = a better artist. Justin Bieber is not a better artist than Eric Clapton. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hip Hop Beefs |
Top 10 Jay Z songs Bring it On So Ghetto Friend or Foe 98 A week Ago Success Cant knock the hustle Friend of Foe Reservoir Dogs A week ago Takeover |
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| Author: | chango33rd [ Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:15 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hip Hop Beefs |
Biggie vs Nas, kinda He talks about it in "last real nigga alive" i know it was a competition thing but the music that would've come out of that beef would've been incredible. |
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| Author: | chango33rd [ Tue Jan 03, 2012 6:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hip Hop Beefs |
Quote: 7. Canibus vs LL Cool J Canibus is known for battling himself on wax, but he truly earned his stripes by squaring off against Uncle L in his prime. The odds were heavily stacked against Bis until he unleashed "Second Round KO," which featured Mike Tyson. This lyrical uppercut is something like a blueprint for some of today's illest rhyme pugilists. Winner: Canibus i never understood why more people never canibus more props for winning this one. Didn't Canibus get into it with Eminem? Eminem vs. everlast? |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Tue Jan 03, 2012 8:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Hip Hop Beefs |
Who you thought kick in the door was for? Yeah Em and Canibus had a thing. Em pretty much bodied him with "Can-I-Bitch" |
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