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I don't like that at all. I couldn't listen past about a minute.

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:

I don't like that at all. I couldn't listen past about a minute.

So it is like all other REM songs?

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:

I don't like that at all. I couldn't listen past about a minute.

So it is like all other REM songs?

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:

I don't like that at all. I couldn't listen past about a minute.

So it is like all other REM songs?

I'm a far, far cry from an R.E.M. fanboy, but lolwut

R.E.M. songs that don't suck

and that's just about it. Not unlike The Simpsons, there's about a decade of R.E.M. that has no business existing.

R.E.M. songs that don't suck
Losing My Religion
Texarkana
Man on the Moon
Nightswimming
Stand
Orange Crush
Everybody Hurts
The One I Love
It's the End of the World As We Know It
(Don't Go Back to) Rockville

and that's just about it. Not unlike The Simpsons, there's about a decade of R.E.M. that has no business existing.

Curious Hair wrote:

R.E.M. songs that don't suck

and that's just about it. Not unlike The Simpsons, there's about a decade of R.E.M. that has no business existing.

yet for some reason, your list is mainly comprised of songs that are very near the start of that decade

Curious Hair wrote:

You like some really pussy R.E.M. songs.

Bagels wrote:

Curious Hair wrote:

R.E.M. songs that don't suck

and that's just about it. Not unlike The Simpsons, there's about a decade of R.E.M. that has no business existing.

yet for some reason, your list is mainly comprised of songs that are very near the start of that decade

What? I was referring to everything after Bill Berry quit the band. My R.E.M. collection stops at Automatic for the People, well before the cliff.

right , but when listing your "songs that don't suck" , you omitted everything from the first 5 albums :lol:

Lifes Rich Pageant, bitches!

I like sadder music and less upbeat stuff.

http://boingboing.net/2013/01/21/rems-losing-my-religion.html

this is weird

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:

I like sadder music and less upbeat stuff.

I like to use lots of minor chords but mix in one major in most compositions.
For instance, Requiem (on my soundcloud account) uses Am, Dm, Em then Am, Dm, Em, G... The G adds a passing upbeat note that puts the minors into perspective...
The Chorus is mostly major chords, G, Am, C, B... that changes the tone of the song in that portion (when I was a young man, I viewed the world a little different...) that's intended to bring about the hope and positive anticipation of the future, with the minor key revisited to reinforce the dread that the experience of life had done to that positivity.

These don't happen by accident, as Doug likes to say.

Darkside wrote:

The Original Kid Cairo wrote:

I like sadder music and less upbeat stuff.

Yup. Music is supposed to tell a story. I love the logic in your approach.

Douchebag wrote:

You like some really pussy R.E.M. songs.

Are there any that don't qualify under that label?

it really does change the whole touch of the song. actually sounds like something that would've been off of "reveal", the fruitiest rem album in existence..

I do like Out of Time, mostly for sentimental reasons..but i'm neutral on Losing My Religion, as part of the album i tolerate it but I would never think to myself "man i really want to hear Losing My Religion" that said i just found the whole thing pretty interesting

Author:	Bagels [ Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:27 pm ]
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http://boingboing.net/2013/01/21/rems-l ... igion.html this is weird

Author:	The Original Kid Cairo [ Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:30 pm ]
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I don't like that at all. I couldn't listen past about a minute.

Author:	Urlacher's missing neck [ Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:33 pm ]
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I like the changes. Far less depressing sounding than the original. I only listened to about 30 seconds though because I don't like the song to begin with.

Author:	Brick [ Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:47 pm ]
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote: I don't like that at all. I couldn't listen past about a minute. So it is like all other REM songs?

Author:	Curious Hair [ Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:53 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: The Original Kid Cairo wrote: I don't like that at all. I couldn't listen past about a minute. So it is like all other REM songs? I'm a far, far cry from an R.E.M. fanboy, but lolwut

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Author:	Curious Hair [ Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:59 pm ]
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R.E.M. songs that don't suck Losing My Religion Texarkana Man on the Moon Nightswimming Stand Orange Crush Everybody Hurts The One I Love It's the End of the World As We Know It (Don't Go Back to) Rockville and that's just about it. Not unlike The Simpsons, there's about a decade of R.E.M. that has no business existing. EDIT: and I love "Shiny Happy People" don't even care

Author:	Brick [ Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:00 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: The Original Kid Cairo wrote: I don't like that at all. I couldn't listen past about a minute. So it is like all other REM songs? I'm a far, far cry from an R.E.M. fanboy, but lolwut Maybe it's because it's been overplayed but I can't think of one REM song I'm interested in listening to any more.

Author:	Bagels [ Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:01 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote: R.E.M. songs that don't suck and that's just about it. Not unlike The Simpsons, there's about a decade of R.E.M. that has no business existing. yet for some reason, your list is mainly comprised of songs that are very near the start of that decade

Author:	Douchebag [ Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:01 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote: R.E.M. songs that don't suck Losing My Religion Texarkana Man on the Moon Nightswimming Stand Orange Crush Everybody Hurts The One I Love It's the End of the World As We Know It (Don't Go Back to) Rockville and that's just about it. Not unlike The Simpsons, there's about a decade of R.E.M. that has no business existing. You like some really pussy R.E.M. songs.

Author:	Curious Hair [ Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:03 pm ]
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Bagels wrote: Curious Hair wrote: R.E.M. songs that don't suck and that's just about it. Not unlike The Simpsons, there's about a decade of R.E.M. that has no business existing. yet for some reason, your list is mainly comprised of songs that are very near the start of that decade What? I was referring to everything after Bill Berry quit the band. My R.E.M. collection stops at Automatic for the People, well before the cliff.

Author:	Bagels [ Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:10 pm ]
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Curious Hair wrote: Bagels wrote: Curious Hair wrote: R.E.M. songs that don't suck and that's just about it. Not unlike The Simpsons, there's about a decade of R.E.M. that has no business existing. yet for some reason, your list is mainly comprised of songs that are very near the start of that decade What? I was referring to everything after Bill Berry quit the band. My R.E.M. collection stops at Automatic for the People, well before the cliff. right , but when listing your "songs that don't suck" , you omitted everything from the first 5 albums

Author:	Hatchetman [ Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:11 pm ]
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I like it! Though the words don't really match the happy music. Not a huge fan, but they have several great songs. I like Driver 8.

Author:	Curious Hair [ Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:15 pm ]
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Bagels wrote: right , but when listing your "songs that don't suck" , you omitted everything from the first 5 albums End of the World, The One I Love, Rockville. durrrr

Author:	Furious Styles [ Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:42 pm ]
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Lifes Rich Pageant, bitches!

Author:	Don Tiny [ Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:17 pm ]
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Gotta say .... this more insipid version kinda demonstrates how simplistic the song really is. That is to say, with all the happy "Pretenders" sound to it, it sounds considerably less 'complex' or 'dark'; without the faux-emo sound to it, it's just a nice ditty. I don't mean to say I don't enjoy the original proper version, but I'm not ready to dismiss this out of hand right away because it's an interesting comparative. I'd like to hear more songs like this to use as similar comparatives just to see if one can get a different taste with nearly the same ingredients. I think in that sense it's pretty groovy; that's just me though.

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Author:	mel junior [ Tue Jan 22, 2013 2:47 pm ]
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Furious Styles wrote: Lifes Rich Pageant, bitches! Begin The Begin

Author:	donspiracy [ Tue Jan 22, 2013 5:06 pm ]
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I heard the key switching thing with Rage Against The Machine's"Killing In The Name Of" it made me feel very funky and a lot less angry. Made me want to dance, not bring down the establishment.

Author:	Darkside [ Tue Jan 22, 2013 6:14 pm ]
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote: I like sadder music and less upbeat stuff. I like to use lots of minor chords but mix in one major in most compositions. For instance, Requiem (on my soundcloud account) uses Am, Dm, Em then Am, Dm, Em, G... The G adds a passing upbeat note that puts the minors into perspective... The Chorus is mostly major chords, G, Am, C, B... that changes the tone of the song in that portion (when I was a young man, I viewed the world a little different...) that's intended to bring about the hope and positive anticipation of the future, with the minor key revisited to reinforce the dread that the experience of life had done to that positivity. These don't happen by accident, as Doug likes to say.

Author:	Colonel Angus [ Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:08 pm ]
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Bagels wrote: http://boingboing.net/2013/01/21/rems-losing-my-religion.html this is weird Interesting. I'd like to hear it w/ the vocals re-recorded to go along w/ the music. I'm a fan of the idea of redoing songs in a different manner. Sad song become upbeat, happy songs become downers, etc.

Author:	Darkside [ Tue Jan 22, 2013 8:12 pm ]
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Darkside wrote: The Original Kid Cairo wrote: I like sadder music and less upbeat stuff. I like to use lots of minor chords but mix in one major in most compositions. For instance, Requiem (on my soundcloud account) uses Am, Dm, Em then Am, Dm, Em, G... The G adds a passing upbeat note that puts the minors into perspective... The Chorus is mostly major chords, G, Am, C, B... that changes the tone of the song in that portion (when I was a young man, I viewed the world a little different...) that's intended to bring about the hope and positive anticipation of the future, with the minor key revisited to reinforce the dread that the experience of life had done to that positivity. These don't happen by accident, as Doug likes to say. Yup. Music is supposed to tell a story. I love the logic in your approach. neat. Sometimes songwriting is just putting a cool riff to some words. Sometimes it's a lot more. Thanks man.

Author:	badrogue17 [ Tue Jan 22, 2013 9:26 pm ]
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Urlacher's missing neck wrote: Douchebag wrote: You like some really pussy R.E.M. songs. Are there any that don't qualify under that label? Man, this is a tough board.

Author:	W_Z [ Wed Jan 23, 2013 7:54 am ]
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that was interesting. i like when people do creative things with standard, familiar music. like the "across the universe" soundtrack, that made some standard beatles songs almost unrecognizable (some may say that's a good thing). it really does change the whole touch of the song. actually sounds like something that would've been off of "reveal", the fruitiest rem album in existence. CH, "New adventures in hi-fi" is a top 5 album for them. although "up" is a very underrated album, too. and "collapse into now" is a great series finale for them. certainly happy they ended on that note rather than that fucking "around the sun".

Author:	Bagels [ Wed Jan 23, 2013 8:10 am ]
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W_Z wrote: it really does change the whole touch of the song. actually sounds like something that would've been off of "reveal", the fruitiest rem album in existence.. that was exactly my thoughts too....it made it sound like cloyingly sweet, latter day REM. which is not a good thing I do like Out of Time, mostly for sentimental reasons..but i'm neutral on Losing My Religion, as part of the album i tolerate it but I would never think to myself "man i really want to hear Losing My Religion" that said i just found the whole thing pretty interesting

Author:	Curious Hair [ Wed Jan 23, 2013 4:29 pm ]
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Bagels wrote: I do like Out of Time, mostly for sentimental reasons..but i'm neutral on Losing My Religion, as part of the album i tolerate it but I would never think to myself "man i really want to hear Losing My Religion" that said i just found the whole thing pretty interesting See, that's one of the few R.E.M. songs I do seek out. Maybe it was because I didn't watch a lot of MTV in 1991-1992, being not even six years old and all, but I'm not burned out on it. I love the mandolin, the vocals, lyrics, everything.