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Author:  Bagels [ Fri Feb 19, 2016 9:47 am ]
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Author:  rogers park bryan [ Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:02 am ]
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Brian Wilson doing Pet Sounds that's....something
Author:  shirtless driver [ Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:58 pm ]
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I'm gonna go just to see Shamir then leave.
hashtag ontheregular
Author:  doug - evergreen park [ Fri Feb 19, 2016 2:47 pm ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Brian Wilson doing Pet Sounds that's....something


yeah, that I would see. And probably Porches...the rest...eh, I don't know.
Author:  Hussra [ Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:12 pm ]
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Super Furry Animals?!?!?! Image like WILCO meets DAFT PUNK meets FLAMING LIPS meet MEKONS. Or something. Fun, fun shows. Great band.
Author:  Hussra [ Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:17 pm ]
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Author:  Furious Styles [ Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:17 pm ]
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Broken Social Scene was the last band I saw at Lollapalooza. I'm down. Maybe Bagels won't be so standoffish this year.
Author:  Douchebag [ Sat Feb 20, 2016 12:34 am ]
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Furious Styles wrote:
Maybe Bagels won't be so standoffish this year.

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Author:  Furious Styles [ Sat Feb 20, 2016 6:30 am ]
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Will this be the thread to bring spanky out of semi-retirement?

We can only hope not.
Author:  Bagels [ Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:48 am ]
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i can be very moody
Author:  America [ Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:54 pm ]
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At least some people who think Beyonce's influence on indie rock has been a good thing will have to finally listen to Pet Sounds.
Author:  Bagels [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:31 am ]
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Furious, you still going ?

anyone else ?
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 9:55 am ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Brian Wilson doing Pet Sounds that's....something
Its two hours of him barking and meowing into a microphone. The hipsters love it.
Author:  Hussra [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:19 am ]
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This year of Pitchfork isn't even sold out; both single day and weekend passes still available.

weak lineup, a result of "peak music fest". music fests finding the price for booking in-demand acts has quintupled in recent years. while ticket sales have slumped. some fests have canceled, some at the least minute, due to weak ticket sales. others have had bands play to empty venues, just to complete the requirements for the sponsor-contracts; so they can arguably keep the sponsors' dollars. which advertising money re-allocated from legacy media to try to capture the highly-valued demographic that attends music fests is a large part of what has driven the music-fest boom.

also, you can engage future-consumers in a music fest setting much more than the one-way transmission of messages on tv/radio/traditional print media.

Hope they at least put the Super Furry Animals on after dark.
Author:  Bagels [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:35 am ]
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Hussra wrote:
This year of Pitchfork isn't even sold out; both single day and weekend passes still available.

weak lineup, a result of "peak music fest". music fests finding the price for booking in-demand acts has quintupled in recent years. while ticket sales have slumped. some fests have canceled, some at the least minute, due to weak ticket sales. others have had bands play to empty venues, just to complete the requirements for the sponsor-contracts; so they can arguably keep the sponsors' dollars. which advertising money re-allocated from legacy media to try to capture the highly-valued demographic that attends music fests is a large part of what has driven the music-fest boom.

also, you can engage future-consumers in a music fest setting much more than the one-way transmission of messages on tv/radio/traditional print media.

Hope they at least put the Super Furry Animals on after dark.


i don't really think the lineup is weak at all, but the headliners definitely do not have a lot of star power. Last few years you had a ton of people who solely came out to see Kendrick Lamar or Chance....no one is doing that to see FKA Twigs close out Sunday this year

and Pitchfork does not have a ton of sponsors relative to other fests...the stages are still "red", "green" and "blue", not "Samsung Galaxy stage" and "Bud Light Stage".
im not sure what fests you are referring to cancelling or having weak sales, the only one I heard having issues was Sasquatch in Washington....Lollapalooza, Coachella, Gov Ball, etc. all still sell out pretty much instantly
Author:  Hussra [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:44 am ]
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partial list of canceled fests:

https://www.fest300.com/magazine/why-ha ... ed-in-2016

that was months ago.

RIot Fest has gone from 3 cities to 2.

One of the original music festivals, All Tomorrow's Parties--which I've been to several of their fests, always well-done, great lineups--had quite the dust-up over their cancelation

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Few festivals have a legacy like that of All Tomorrow’s Parties. For 15 years ATP drew the likes of Nick Cave, Patti Smith, Belle and Sebastian, Iggy Pop and Mogwai to Pontins holiday camp for weekends that became the stuff of indie legend. And at the heart of it all was Barry Hogan, the straight-talking promoter whose goal was to stage a festival that was “without the bullshit egos, shit bands, Ticketmaster or corporate sponsors”.

Yet in April, for the second time in 18 months, ATP was forced to cancel a weekend festival with just a few days’ notice, leaving fans and musicians out of pocket and a trail of disappointment, anger and legal threats.


https://www.theguardian.com/music/2016/ ... l-go-wrong
Author:  Hussra [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:47 am ]
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Bagels wrote:
and Pitchfork does not have a ton of sponsors relative to other fests...the stages are still "red", "green" and "blue", not "Samsung Galaxy stage" and "Bud Light Stage


"red", "green" and "blue" -- the Pokemon Go team colors? Hmmmm

which I'm sure the sales team for Pitchfork Fest emphasizes the lack of stages named after sponsors and the lack of over-arching sponsors and their accompanying advertising in their sales pitches to the likes of Ray-Ban and Whole Foods: "pay more for a booth at our fest because you're an equal advertister at our fest and won't be drowned out by Bud-Light and Goose Island" Well. maybe Goose-Island. They are a pretty big sponsor of Pitchfork every year.

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Author:  Bagels [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 10:51 am ]
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yea, they have sponsors....i didn't say they didn't. just saying it's not quite as egregious or in your face as others, that's all

and ATP is a completely different story which was run completely differently than any other fest
Barry Hogan was pretty much robbing Peter to pay Paul, and the cycle eventually burst
Author:  Hussra [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:06 am ]
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well, if bands are all getting paid more to play festivals --[the one fest in that write-up said they were going from paying $12K for all the bands to $70K for basically the same set of the same level of act]-- that probably impacts festivals like ATP and Pitchfork, which are suriving mostly / exclusively on ticket sales/vending, a lot more than fests that are willing to plaster SCION on every flat surface at the fest.

Could also be the venues he was using were getting more demand by other fests to use them. When he started ATP, he'd go to these low-rent summer holiday weekend resorts like Pontins in Camber Sands on the south shore of England and ask to use their facilities on weekends (late March/early April or even late November/early December) when they were shut down for the season but close enough to being open that they could staff up. he could probably get away with paying a minimal price to use them back then--as they were not being used for anyting else at all--and then other fests, esp EDM fests, began bidding on the same facilities for the same weekends. I think he moved away from Camber Sands, to try to facilitate more capacity,then the fest bidding wars probably made even that financially dicey and so he tried to go back to Camber Sands; where Belle & Sebastian started the whole thing with their Bowlie Weekender back in '99.

The EDM residential fests in the UK are crazy. Ambulances lined up like taxis at the aiport outside the concert halls, to haul people off to the hospital.
Author:  Bagels [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 11:19 am ]
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i don't think the venues he was using were in demand.....i was just in Iceland for ATP Iceland (which was cancelled obv) and it was pretty much going to take place in an airport hangar :lol:

i think it's just like you said- he was trying to do it w/o sponsors and other backing , but eventually as it spiraled out of control i think he lost whatever empathy you may have once had for him.....he clearly knew he was stiffing bands left and right
Author:  Hussra [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 2:33 pm ]
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yeah, their overseas ATP's have been hit or miss. I went to ATP Long Beach and it was sorta set on the dry-docked Queen Mary. Stayed on the boat (which is working hotel all the time) and some of the shows were on the boat--including Eagles of Death Metal with both drummers. But the main-stage was in a park on land. And the fest pretty much ended at midnight or so...unlike the UK festival, which would keep going til 7 am every night. And it seemed like other than the bands, not many of the people attending the fest chose to stay on the boat during the fest.

Public Enemy played their first outside the USA show in maybe a decade at one of the ATP's I attended. And their DJ/Terminator X and Flavor-Flav took over the DJ booth in the on-site pub and played records til dawn after their show. this was right before Flavor-Flav became an MTV reality TV star. Interesting booking for Autechre; one of the best live shows of the weekend. buncha techno fans bouncing to full-band PE for 2+ hours.

WILCO's Solid Sound in Massachusetts seems like one of the more successful takes on ATP. But that quickly dropped to every-other-year. Recall going to one of the first Bonaroo festivals, the first one the Dead played at, and thinking "dayum, everyone here is fucking old" . Couple years later, went to a Bonaroo with Radiohead..."damn, everyone here is so young."

WILCO fest would be positively geriatric next time around; they'll have to offer on site daycare AND hospice.
Author:  Furious Styles [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:29 pm ]
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Bagels wrote:
Furious, you still going ?

Thinking about Friday for Beach House and BSS.

Not familar w/ the lineup outside of the obvious. Any recommendations?
Author:  Bagels [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:33 pm ]
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Furious Styles wrote:
Bagels wrote:
Furious, you still going ?

Thinking about Friday for Beach House and BSS.

Not familar w/ the lineup outside of the obvious. Any recommendations?


recs for Friday ? Friday is kinda sparse

definitely Royal Headache (sat, also playing at Empty Bottle Thursday)
Author:  Furious Styles [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:49 pm ]
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Bagels wrote:
recs for Friday ? Friday is kinda sparse

definitely Royal Headache (sat, also playing at Empty Bottle Thursday)

The whole weekend, really.
Author:  Bagels [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 3:55 pm ]
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i think Savages will be good
Blood Orange i really like although i'm not completely sold on the new album...but he's good live
Anderson Paak is pretty awesome but it's the same time as Brian Wilson
i like the Kevin Morby album a lot, not seen him live though
Porches are good
if you like jazz there's Kamasi Washington and Sun Ra Arkestra
Author:  BigW72 [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 5:39 pm ]
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Digable Planets???
wow.
Author:  Minooka Meatball [ Tue Jul 12, 2016 7:24 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Brian Wilson doing Pet Sounds that's....something
Its two hours of him barking and meowing into a microphone. The hipsters love it.


Saw him open for Jeff Beck at the old Westbury Music Fair theater on Long Island about 2 1/2 years back. I was out there for a work assignment, and went at the last minute when a ticket became available. I only cared to see JB, and as I suspected, the BW show was cringeworthy. The guy barely has a pulse these days, has to be propped up behind a fake piano, and the over-the-top worship by his 13-piece band between songs was vomit-inducing. He had to be assisted onto and off the stage, and appeared like he wanted to be anywhere else but there. Thankfully Jeff Beck kicked all kinds of ass afterward.

My younger brother and his wife are huge Beach Boys and Brian Wilson fans, and have seen BW about five times in the last 2-3 years. They just went out to LA last weekend to see him at the Hollywood Bowl. Idiots :roll:
Author:  Hussra [ Sat Jul 16, 2016 1:36 pm ]
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I see white people:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Cx4-r1h8cw

saturday streaming schedule

8:30 Sufjan Stevens Main
6:45 Jlin Blue
6:15 Super Furry Animals Main
5:45 BJ the Chicago Kid Blue
4:45 Martin Courtney Blue
3:45 Jenny Hval Blue
3:20 Digable Planets Main
2:45 Royal Headache Blue
2:30 Kevin Morby Main
1:45 RP Boo Blue
1:45 Girl Band Main

http://pitchfork.com/
Author:  shirtless driver [ Sat Jul 16, 2016 4:32 pm ]
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Watched Beach House on the stream last night..........amazing as usual........
Author:  Hussra [ Sun Jul 17, 2016 12:35 pm ]
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Sunday's live stream schedule:

8:30 FKA twigs MAIN
7:45 LUH. BLUE
7:25 Miguel MAIN
6:15 Jeremih MAIN
5:45 The Hotelier BLUE
5:15 Neon Indian MAIN
4:45 Empress Of BLUE
4:15 Holy Ghost! MAIN
3:20 Kamasi Washington MAIN
2:50 Homme BLUE
2:30 Woods MAIN
1:55 Sun Ra Arkestra BLUE
1:45 Porches MAIN


http://pitchfork.com/
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