It's too bad the E was in charge of making the Rise and Fall of WCW as well as Monday Night Wars, would have been interesting to see a neutral party take on it. Oh we'll history is written by winners and all that.

There was just a combination of really bad business and creative decisions over a two-year span. This is just my opinion, but I think it was a combination of things in no particular order:

1). Creative control contracts that allowed certain main event wrestlers to dictate their own booking and more importantly, to refuse to work with talented lower card wrestlers who may have needed a little more exposure.

2). Lazy main eventers who had guaranteed contracts and no longer cared about putting forth effort in the ring.

3). Eric Bischoff resting on his laurels and going "autopilot" on the nWo angle instead of giving the story a proper finish and allowing it to create new stars.

4). A backstage environment where lower and midcard wrestlers were actually punished and reprimanded for having good matches and "showing up the main event".

5). Using pay per view to push their TV show instead of the other way around.

6). Giving Kevin Nash the book.

7). Writing their television with the purpose of winning the ratings week instead of long-term planning.

8 ). Horrible spending decisions, like paying wrestlers for two years who never once appeared on TV, or paying celebrities a boatload of money for one-shot deals that did nothing to increase buyrates or TV ratings.

9). Completely killing their house show market.

10). Hiring Vince Russo.

I could go on, but a lot of that has to do with what went wrong.

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wow! I loved the WCW and the NWO,but OKC has a lot of knowledge,right there. I miss Big Poppa Pump!

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Yeah, I remember being frustrated that the Luchador matches were so awesome and then Hogan would come out and give a shitty main event.

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I blame Three Count

I remember the Mysterio fiasco. How about the time Nash laid down to give Hogan the belt back?

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Wcw.txt

http://board.deathvalleydriver.com/topi ... ue-quotes/

Good stuff in this thread, especially by OKC.

WCW was a tragedy, but they literally killed the company by themselves. Perfect opportunity, they had the depth of talent, the ratings, the older stars, younger guys who could be stars and an actual CEO of the parent company that LOVED wrestling.

Sad.

I think I'm going to go bump my Worst Matches and Feuds Thread.

That was one of the single most defining moments in the death of WCW.

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Thanks for re-posting this, KD. I first discovered that thread in 2006. I was up late nights for about a week reading that whole thing. Very compelling.

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I don't have time to write a book, but OKC hit on most of it. It wasn't one thing. It was a combination of bad. If you really want to simplify it, the heat off their big angle was gone. Attitude Era, Four Horsemen, NWO, etc. A big angle has a shelf life, no matter how hot. Once the NWO was stale, nothing was there to go on. You still had talent, but they weren't developing any new stars. The old guys were burying the guys trying to come up. Plus, WWF had the better product. Much like WCW had when the NWO got hot. The casual WCW crowd, like many people posting in this thread, grew up and stopped caring in 1999.

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Also when the WWE came out with Mini-Goldberg. They not only mocked the WCW but Pro Wrestling. Why slap yourself in the face?

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

And DDP was doing all of this during his run in WCW with broken ribs How long did they have those bandages around his waist? 3 years?

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I blame Mike Awesome.

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Ivan...

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Very talented guy. R.I.P.

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He didn't start hanging around until it was already dead.

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This hits the nail on the head. Started high school around that time and moved from wrestling into heavy drinking.

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I remember Heenan being interviewed in the dying days of WCW. He was asked whet he would do to improve the product. His reply,"Roll a grenade in the locker room."

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Let's do it for Johnny!

http://www.amazon.com/Death-WCW-Wrestle ... 1550226614

There is a book on the fall of WCW. Haven't read it yet, but it is on my list.

I don't disagree with anything you wrote. I just don't think that puts him in an all time great category.

I do not have any problems with DDP. He was good at every aspect of the business and his story of being a self made wrestler is real nice. Just not enough to be an all time great IMO.

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Did DDP work with his wife as manager?

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

Yes. But she went on to head up the Nitro Girls. Huh huh. Head.

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

That and the NWO parody of the Horsemen

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When I am stuck and need to figure something out I always remember the Immortal words of Socrates when he said:"I just drank what?"

That was pretty bad. That was a big F-you to the fans and to Arn Anderson and Flair.

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To me,the biigest fan "FU" was the WWE's mini-Goldberg. You don't have anything fresh,so let's mock your opponent.

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favrefan said:"Chris Coghlan isn't gonna pay your rent, Jimmy."

I hear what you're saying. It was pretty classless of WWE at the time, considering that they were easily beating WCW in the ratings by then. No reason to do that.

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It's just making a mockery of your "sport". What is "fake" real and what is "fake" fake? Just like the Hornswaggle BS.

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