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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:50 am 
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Hauser's been a Top Rank shill for years though. It is amusing that he glosses over the fact that Top Rank was the side that unilaterally ended the mediation session and Arum blatantly lied about what had transpired (that is, that Mayweather was willing to compromise up on the drug testing issue, but Pacquiao's side never moved one inch to make the fight save for when video evidence caught him being tested less than 30 days out for a fight).

Both Arum and Mayweather have millions of excuses for not making the fight. Placing the blame on one or the other simply reveals bias IMO.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 7:56 am 
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ZephMarshack wrote:
Both Arum and Mayweather have millions of excuses for not making the fight. Placing the blame on one or the other simply reveals bias IMO.


That's fair. But I also believe Mayweather is obsessed with his place in the conversation of the greatest boxers of all time. He doesn't have a lot to gain by fighting Pacquaio. Except money and he already has plenty of that.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:01 am 
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
ZephMarshack wrote:
Both Arum and Mayweather have millions of excuses for not making the fight. Placing the blame on one or the other simply reveals bias IMO.


That's fair. But I also believe Mayweather is obsessed with his place in the conversation of the greatest boxers of all time. He doesn't have a lot to gain by fighting Pacquaio. Except money and he already has plenty of that.

I think if you're talking about place in boxing history, Floyd's failure to fight Manny necessarily hurts his standing, just as Pacquiao's failure hurts his as well. Sure the more mindless Floyd fans will declare him the best ever just because of his 0, but anyone who takes the sport seriously knows both guys have been feasting on a weak welterweight division for years. Not fighting each other means neither has taken on a historically great in-form opponent in that time.


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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
ZephMarshack wrote:
Both Arum and Mayweather have millions of excuses for not making the fight. Placing the blame on one or the other simply reveals bias IMO.


That's fair. But I also believe Mayweather is obsessed with his place in the conversation of the greatest boxers of all time. He doesn't have a lot to gain by fighting Pacquaio. Except money and he already has plenty of that.

How can you put it all on Mayweather when if this is accurate


(that is, that Mayweather was willing to compromise up on the drug testing issue, but Pacquiao's side never moved one inch to make the fight save for when video evidence caught him being tested less than 30 days out for a fight).


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:15 am 
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rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
ZephMarshack wrote:
Both Arum and Mayweather have millions of excuses for not making the fight. Placing the blame on one or the other simply reveals bias IMO.


That's fair. But I also believe Mayweather is obsessed with his place in the conversation of the greatest boxers of all time. He doesn't have a lot to gain by fighting Pacquaio. Except money and he already has plenty of that.

How can you put it all on Mayweather when if this is accurate


(that is, that Mayweather was willing to compromise up on the drug testing issue, but Pacquiao's side never moved one inch to make the fight save for when video evidence caught him being tested less than 30 days out for a fight).


It stands to reason that Mayweather is the major impediment to the fight happening. He has the most to lose.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 9:19 am 
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
rogers park bryan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
ZephMarshack wrote:
Both Arum and Mayweather have millions of excuses for not making the fight. Placing the blame on one or the other simply reveals bias IMO.


That's fair. But I also believe Mayweather is obsessed with his place in the conversation of the greatest boxers of all time. He doesn't have a lot to gain by fighting Pacquaio. Except money and he already has plenty of that.

How can you put it all on Mayweather when if this is accurate


(that is, that Mayweather was willing to compromise up on the drug testing issue, but Pacquiao's side never moved one inch to make the fight save for when video evidence caught him being tested less than 30 days out for a fight).


It stands to reason that Mayweather is the major impediment to the fight happening. He has the most to lose.

I'm no expert on this situation. Just a casual observer, but it seems like both of them are giant bitches who dont want to lose.


Can you imagine explaining this situation to Jack Dempsey or people from that time?


Yeah, the two best boxers in the world refuse to fight each other because neither wants to lose.


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