I would much rather see a Lesnar/Ryback matchup. Lesnar could cleanly kick the crap out of Ryback and it would be glorious.

They already did Lesnar Goldberg. People didn't like it...

Can I say with doing a Cena-Rock, that doesn't make me want Mania like I did last year, I can't see Cena losing this match, the thing I would do to throw people would be have Cena finally go heel.

I don't believe in this WWE like the one ten plus years ago (go figure, i originated "board better two years ago"). There is still just too much money to be made off of Cena as a face with kids. I would be very risky from a business standpoint to turn him heel. With that said...


from a storyline perspective it would be a great move. Cena and Rock both head into WM as faces and while not a fan of triple threat matches, maybe Punk is in the match as well because Taker is not healthy for Mania. Triple Threat, No DQ match. Close match throughout. The Shield comes out at some point, throws a quick punch on Cena and throws him out of the ring. Hurts referee and throws him out. Starts brutally attacking the Rock, Punk nods in approval. Punk points to bring ref in for count. Shield obliges. He goes for the cover on Rock, but gets blocked by a Shield member. Punk and Shield argue a bit. Cena waiting behind him. AA on Punk. Rock is up, starts his own 'hulking up' and battling Shield members. Cena now directing traffic, asking for Rollins to get a chair. Cena and Rock tangle. Rollins chair shot. Cena pin. Rock kicks out at 2.9 (also ever notice how Cena is horrible at kicking out on a late 2?). Punk comes in and now Punk and Rock start working together. Eventually numbers game beginning to wear out Rock and Punk. Cena continues directing traffic, dirty moves, chair shots. Rock is laid out. All shield members are laid out. Punk and Cena remain in ring. Back and forth. Some type of Hogan-Warrior clothesline happens on each other. Heyman runs into the ring to check on Punk. As he is talking to Punk, he slides brass knuckles to Cena. Heyman gets Punk back up, goes to get the referee up and moving, Cena nails Punk with brass knucks, gets three count. Cena, Shield and Heyman end up celebrating together.

Raw would reveal Cena and Heyman were behind the Shield the whole time. Heyman approached Cena not too much after Cena defeated Brock as Heyman realized Brock wasn't what he once was. While Heyman liked and respected Punk as a wrestler, Cena is the ultimatem meal ticket. He explains almost every reason why he had the Shield attack certain people. It all starts to make sense. He disliked Ryback and his quick rise. He thought keeping the belt on Punk was the way to go. We find out he didn't want to face the Rock at Mania again which is why he had The Shield attack Rock at the Rumble. That plan failed obviously. Yada, yada. I think it could make for some good viewing...

That's outstanding.

But it'll never happen.

I will say having Lesnar back helps, would not put him against Triple H at Mania, another one where I can't see Triple H losing.

Triple H hasn't won at WrestleMania in going on 3 years.

I don't believe in this WWE like the one ten plus years ago (go figure, i originated "board better two years ago"). There is still just too much money to be made off of Cena as a face with kids. I would be very risky from a business standpoint to turn him heel. With that said...


from a storyline perspective it would be a great move. Cena and Rock both head into WM as faces and while not a fan of triple threat matches, maybe Punk is in the match as well because Taker is not healthy for Mania. Triple Threat, No DQ match. Close match throughout. The Shield comes out at some point, throws a quick punch on Cena and throws him out of the ring. Hurts referee and throws him out. Starts brutally attacking the Rock, Punk nods in approval. Punk points to bring ref in for count. Shield obliges. He goes for the cover on Rock, but gets blocked by a Shield member. Punk and Shield argue a bit. Cena waiting behind him. AA on Punk. Rock is up, starts his own 'hulking up' and battling Shield members. Cena now directing traffic, asking for Rollins to get a chair. Cena and Rock tangle. Rollins chair shot. Cena pin. Rock kicks out at 2.9 (also ever notice how Cena is horrible at kicking out on a late 2?). Punk comes in and now Punk and Rock start working together. Eventually numbers game beginning to wear out Rock and Punk. Cena continues directing traffic, dirty moves, chair shots. Rock is laid out. All shield members are laid out. Punk and Cena remain in ring. Back and forth. Some type of Hogan-Warrior clothesline happens on each other. Heyman runs into the ring to check on Punk. As he is talking to Punk, he slides brass knuckles to Cena. Heyman gets Punk back up, goes to get the referee up and moving, Cena nails Punk with brass knucks, gets three count. Cena, Shield and Heyman end up celebrating together.

Raw would reveal Cena and Heyman were behind the Shield the whole time. Heyman approached Cena not too much after Cena defeated Brock as Heyman realized Brock wasn't what he once was. While Heyman liked and respected Punk as a wrestler, Cena is the ultimatem meal ticket. He explains almost every reason why he had the Shield attack certain people. It all starts to make sense. He disliked Ryback and his quick rise. He thought keeping the belt on Punk was the way to go. We find out he didn't want to face the Rock at Mania again which is why he had The Shield attack Rock at the Rumble. That plan failed obviously. Yada, yada. I think it could make for some good viewing...

Damn you Drop In. You beat me to the avatar change!

Triple H hasn't won at WrestleMania in going on 3 years.

He's also 7-9 at Wrestlemania. I still find it funny that no one dare gives shit about Undertaker being fucking Superman. I am in the minority on this. I think he puts on some fantastic matches, no doubt. However, I just am not big on this whole streak thing. I think he should not remain undefeated. That is not how the wrestling business works. You leave the business with your shoulders on the mat. If he remains undefeated then I believe it to be more ridiculous than John Cena being the perceived Superman of the company. Whether you like him or hate him, his work rate I believe has been pretty much outmatched over the last ten years. I could be wrong. I just get sick of reading the Cena and H constant bashing and Taker id never questioned.

Yep.

No one is bigger than the business.

His last Mania match should be used to put someone over and make them a legend.

And maybe that is exactly why he hasn't put someone over in that event yet. Every year they don't do it, it makes it that much bigger. Looking at the roster, I'm not exactly sure who you allow to do that. you could let CM Punk do it to cement his legacy, but the 400+ days as champ should be enough ad how much more of a bump would he really get? Sheamus may already be too established at this point too. At the same time you have to pick someone who is oozing with potential and has some decent cred or then Taker ends up losing to someone far lesser than him and that really doesn't work either. Every year the candidate list changes as it makes less sense for certain guys to win that match. I'm sure I will be ridiculed for my list below, but right now I feel like these are the only guys that could make something of that win and have it come off legitimate:

Damien Sandow (which I think would elevate and reinforce his character to new heights. I think he has main event worthiness)
Dolph Ziggler

I got nothing else, and I'm not even convinced of my candidates.

I see your two and add
Wade Barrett
Jack Swagger

Good stuff Woodridge Ryan. I have been one of the few defenders of HHH around here over the years. To hear some people talk you would think he was 30-0 at big shows. People always talk as if he has never put anyone over, which is completely false.