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| Author: | Bob Loblaw [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:53 am ] |
| Post subject: | Randy Orton out with injury - probably not good |
not good for him at least. maybe its good for us.. work or legit...? I think Trips and the woo-woo guy both had broken backs last summer that only put them out a week or two. WWE released the following this morning. "At Tuesday night’s SmackDown television taping, Mr. Money in the Bank Randy Orton was injured during his match against World Heavyweight Champion Alberto Del Rio. According to WWE medical personnel, the nine-time World Champion suffered a cervical strain and cervical neuropraxia." WWE takes all issues seriously, especially those of the neck. This one is serious too. This is how a medical site described the injury. "Neuropraxia of the cervical spinal cord is a rare condition which is almost exclusively reported in American football players following cervical hyperextension or hyperflexion trauma. In this entity-neurological symptoms of both arms and legs for a period of up to 15 minutes are observed with complete recovery. We report the characteristics of five patients not involved in contact sport activities with a neuropraxia of the spinal cord following cervical trauma. In four of the five patients, this syndrome was associated with a cervical canal stenosis. Surgical decompression was performed in two patients with progressive neurological symptoms after an initial period of recovery. The cases illustrates that although neuropraxia of the spinal cord is usually seen in athletes, also other persons may be at risk for developing this condition, especially when a preexisting spinal stenosis is present. Patients who experienced neuropraxia of the spinal cord should thus be evaluated carefully for the presence of cervical spinal cord abnormalities." Obviously, WWE will tread slowly when dealing with an injury like this one. Recovery time is said to be six weeks at a minimum. |
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| Author: | SomeGuy [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 7:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Randy Orton out with injury - probably not good |
How does Randy Orton get the belt 9 fucking times? Christ, the WWE sucks theeze dayz. |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Randy Orton out with injury - probably not good |
Randy Orton has had himself a good career. Go back and look at his body of work. There were some good matches and some good angles in there. Nine times as champion is not surprising to me. |
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| Author: | SomeGuy [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:46 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Randy Orton out with injury - probably not good |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Randy Orton has had himself a good career. Go back and look at his body of work. There were some good matches and some good angles in there. Nine times as champion is not surprising to me. I like Orton, my comment was more on the angle of the WWE not giving much reverence to the belts anymore. It's like everyone's been the world champ 9 times. |
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| Author: | reents [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Randy Orton out with injury - probably not good |
SomeGuy wrote: The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Randy Orton has had himself a good career. Go back and look at his body of work. There were some good matches and some good angles in there. Nine times as champion is not surprising to me. I like Orton, my comment was more on the angle of the WWE not giving much reverence to the belts anymore. It's like everyone's been the world champ 9 times. I agree too Someguy, it's like Triple H and Cena have had it about 14 times, I remember when Hogan was champ like 5 times and that was big. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Randy Orton out with injury - probably not good |
Number of times having the belt means nothing. It is just a random number that means nothing without the context of how the belt changed hands each time. Ric Flair (one of the greatest of all times) held the belt how many times? Orton has become the HHH of his generation. For some reason it has become the cool thing to do to take shots at him. |
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| Author: | SomeGuy [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:49 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Randy Orton out with injury - probably not good |
RFDC wrote: Number of times having the belt means nothing. It is just a random number that means nothing without the context of how the belt changed hands each time. Ric Flair (one of the greatest of all times) held the belt how many times? Orton has become the HHH of his generation. For some reason it has become the cool thing to do to take shots at him. I wasn't taking shots at him. And having the belt really doesn't mean as much as it used to. EDIT: I do understand what you're saying about the context of the belt and such, but in my opinion it just seems that it's another thing that someone gets before someone else gets it. Just another piece in a storyline and poof it's gone. It doesn't seem, again in my opinion, that it's held in as high of an esteem as it once was. Probably a by product of the WWE moving into more constant programs with more constant PPV's and such. |
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| Author: | Terry's Peeps [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 9:51 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Randy Orton out with injury - probably not good |
ADR is gonna be in some hot water if he keeps injuring people. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Randy Orton out with injury - probably not good |
SomeGuy wrote: RFDC wrote: Number of times having the belt means nothing. It is just a random number that means nothing without the context of how the belt changed hands each time. Ric Flair (one of the greatest of all times) held the belt how many times? Orton has become the HHH of his generation. For some reason it has become the cool thing to do to take shots at him. I wasn't taking shots at him. And having the belt really doesn't mean as much as it used to. I wasn't talking specifically of you, but more in general about things I read on here and other places regarding Orton. If you only look at the history of the WWE then you could say that the belt probably does not mean as much now as it did back in the days of Bruno, Backlund, etc. However, when you look wrestling history as a whole I don't think you come to that same idea. Look at the early 80s when guys like Tommy Rich, Dusty Rhodes, Ric Flair, Harley Race all rotated the belt quite frequently. |
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| Author: | SomeGuy [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:11 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Randy Orton out with injury - probably not good |
RFDC wrote: SomeGuy wrote: RFDC wrote: Number of times having the belt means nothing. It is just a random number that means nothing without the context of how the belt changed hands each time. Ric Flair (one of the greatest of all times) held the belt how many times? Orton has become the HHH of his generation. For some reason it has become the cool thing to do to take shots at him. I wasn't taking shots at him. And having the belt really doesn't mean as much as it used to. I wasn't talking specifically of you, but more in general about things I read on here and other places regarding Orton. If you only look at the history of the WWE then you could say that the belt probably does not mean as much now as it did back in the days of Bruno, Backlund, etc. However, when you look wrestling history as a whole I don't think you come to that same idea. Look at the early 80s when guys like Tommy Rich, Dusty Rhodes, Ric Flair, Harley Race all rotated the belt quite frequently. I know, but the belt and it's aura meant more, at least in my humble opinion. So when it exchanged hands it was because a major match took place between 2 ring warriors that cut sweet promos, did a ton of shows together and had actual heat. My memory of the NWA is cloudy and mostly based on video and such but that's how I see it. In the WWE it seems as if it's just another accessory. It shouldn't be treated as such...men such as Hulk Hogan, Ultimate Warrior, Andre the Giant, Yokozuna....and Sid who shit his pants at a WM. Although the worst desecration of the belt was done by Hulk Hogan at WM9....that was god awful....poor Bret Hart! |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:23 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Randy Orton out with injury - probably not good |
I get what SomeGuy is saying now. I agree. Titles in general are pretty much just props and don't have much historical significance any more. Part of the reason is what SomeGuy pointed out about the frequency of PPVs and marquee matches on weekly TV. There's only so much they can do to keep titles fresh nowadays, as fans have been conditioned to expect changes. It was refreshing to see Punk hold the title for over a whole year, but that shouldn't be a special occurrence; it should be the norm. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Randy Orton out with injury - probably not good |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: I get what SomeGuy is saying now. I agree. Titles in general are pretty much just props and don't have much historical significance any more. Part of the reason is what SomeGuy pointed out about the frequency of PPVs and marquee matches on weekly TV. There's only so much they can do to keep titles fresh nowadays, as fans have been conditioned to expect changes. It was refreshing to see Punk hold the title for over a whole year, but that shouldn't be a special occurrence; it should be the norm. I see what he is saying as well and I agree with a lot of it. But the thing that gets me is the same fans that will say they want people to hold the belt for a year at a time will then bitch about things like Cena beating Mark Henry and retaining the belt. A lot of people wanted Mark Henry to beat Cena for the belt. You cannot have it both ways. You cannot have the Punks of the world keeping the belt for a year and having Cena lose the belt every PPV to guys like Henry. (not saying you or Someguy hold that opinion) |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Randy Orton out with injury - probably not good |
I understand Ralph. One thing I've learned is that no matter what a company books, there will always be someone unhappy with it. And I agree with your contrast of Punk and Cena. Any guy who holds a heavyweight title should be given a minimum of 5 months to run with the belt. I also think the World Heavyweight Title should be retired once and for all and sent to the WWE Hall of Fame. Once Jericho unified the WCW and WWE Titles in 2001, it should have stayed that way. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 10:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Randy Orton out with injury - probably not good |
The Original Kid Cairo wrote: I understand Ralph. One thing I've learned is that no matter what a company books, there will always be someone unhappy with it. And I agree with your contrast of Punk and Cena. Any guy who holds a heavyweight title should be given a minimum of 5 months to run with the belt. I also think the World Heavyweight Title should be retired once and for all and sent to the WWE Hall of Fame. Once Jericho unified the WCW and WWE Titles in 2001, it should have stayed that way. I agree with all of that, and I would add that when they retire the World Heavyweight Title they need to elevate the IC belt back to prominence |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Randy Orton out with injury - probably not good |
Keeping Score wrote: I will continue to rip Randy Orton nearly every chance I get. He's a complete fuck up for the most part. Charasmatic black hole Rest hold machine MetraSexual Two Strikes Lockerroom cancer Gym Bag shitter Baby hips Completely sucks at anything other than demonic heel He does a cool RKO which he ripped off from DDP. DDP also does it better. He does a good dropkick. So did Jim Brunzell and countless others. He has the 2nd biggest fake rope thingy move, right after Rey Mysterio. He stomps people well. I'm overjoyed about this news. True, what's so bad about ripping on assholes? Admittedly they probably all are, but Orton's idiocy is pretty well documented. |
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| Author: | Dallas Winston [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:47 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Randy Orton out with injury - probably not good |
I've never been a fan of Randy Orton the person or wrestler. I've read too many stories to not think he's a cocky, arrogant piece of shit. I would never wish injury on anyone, but the thought of him carrying that briefcase around for a year didn't thrill me. Karma train just pulled into the station. |
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| Author: | The Original Kid Cairo [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:52 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Randy Orton out with injury - probably not good |
Nothing wrong with ripping him for being a jerk. I just think he's a good wrestler. |
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| Author: | Dallas Winston [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 11:57 am ] |
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The Original Kid Cairo wrote: Nothing wrong with ripping him for being a jerk. I just think he's a good wrestler. I agree Kid. He's the goods in the ring. Personally I find him boring as hell, but he can wrestle. Just not a very good person. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:15 pm ] |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 12:21 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Randy Orton out with injury - probably not good |
Keeping Score wrote: Has anybody in the history of wrestling been given more favorable programs to work with than Randy? I haven't given that much thought, but it seems within the realm of possibility. 
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| Author: | Drop In [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:01 pm ] |
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| Author: | jackref [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:25 pm ] |
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Drop In wrote: 
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| Author: | RFDC [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:43 pm ] |
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| Author: | Drop In [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 1:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Randy Orton out with injury - probably not good |
RFDC wrote: 
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| Author: | Woodridge Ryan [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:03 pm ] |
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RFDC wrote: Orton has become the HHH of his generation. No |
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| Author: | Brick [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Randy Orton out with injury - probably not good |
I'm relieved I made it through the day without any parody posts from the title. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:10 pm ] |
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Woodridge Ryan wrote: RFDC wrote: Orton has become the HHH of his generation. No I do not mean in terms of wrestling. |
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| Author: | Woodridge Ryan [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 6:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Randy Orton out with injury - probably not good |
RFDC wrote: Woodridge Ryan wrote: RFDC wrote: Orton has become the HHH of his generation. No I do not mean in terms of wrestling. Whew...I enjoy the thoughts of a RFDC on a regular basis. He's actually pretty damn good in the ring in big matches. He just has zero personality and sucks on the microphone. I get what you are saying in terms of H. Booking. |
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| Author: | Urlacher's missing neck [ Wed Jul 17, 2013 8:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Randy Orton out with injury - probably not good |
I don't mind RKO. I will take him being boring on the mic over cena being a clown any day. Look at that t-shirt cena has with the belt on it. That is the 5 for 10 dollar shit you see in the shops on spring break. |
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| Author: | reents [ Thu Jul 18, 2013 4:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Randy Orton out with injury - probably not good |
According to F4WOnline.com, the word coming from backstage in WWE is that the current plan for the John Cena vs Daniel Bryan match at SummerSlam is to have Bryan defeat Cena, and then have Randy Orton cash in Money in the Bank, take the title from Bryan, and finally make the heel turn that he has been rumored to be making for quite sometime now. With WWE.com reporting that Orton was "injured" at the Smackdown taping this week, it's possible that WWE could hype that injury angle on Raw this week, to keep Orton off TV for awhile, making his cash-in that much more of a surprise at SummerSlam. Another factor leading many to believe that Orton will cash in Money at the Bank is there is currently no scheduled rematch between Cena and Bryan set for Night of Champions this year |
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