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Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
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Author:  Rod [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:19 am ]
Post subject:  Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
Today's athletes are so superior, they probably couldn't.
Author:  Rod [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:37 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
Q.Bovifs wrote:
Not a chance.

Should be an entirely different weight class for those megahumans.


Exactly. I doubt Ali could even satisfy Hayden Panettiere.
Author:  jimmypasta [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 8:40 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
Didn't anybody see Rocky 4? Ali would die in the ring and would be avenged by Marciano.
Author:  Douchebag [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 9:04 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
Klitschko would be better at football than Butkus.
Author:  Rod [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
Q.Bovifs wrote:
Douchebag wrote:
Klitschko would be better at football than Butkus.

The crazy thing is that both Klitschko brothers were champion kickboxers in the 90's. Could you imagine getting hit with a roundhouse kick to the head from one of these guys?



Right. And who the fuck did Ali ever fight anyway? A bunch of slow, tiny, black guys. I have it on good authority from an esteemed CSFMB member that George Foreman was no more than 5'8.5".
Author:  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:39 pm ]
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Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
I have it on good authority from an esteemed CSFMB member that George Foreman was no more than 5'8.5".


:lol:
Author:  ZephMarshack [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 3:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
The thing I hate about boxing narratives which focus on physical improvements is that they gloss over skill deterioration, which has absolutely been happening for quite some time. This isn't to say that the Klitschkos are unskilled, but Ali was miles ahead of all of their opponents in that department as well as ring IQ. The brothers might get too much flack for making it look too easy most of the time, but this heavyweight era is nevertheless legitimately terrible.
Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
If Hayden Panettierre can handle his size, I'm sure Ali and Joe Louis could.
Author:  denisdman [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:16 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
Comparing eras is so difficult. I just looked up Jesse Owens 100 time. Wow, big time slow by today's standards.

On August 3, he won the 100m sprint with a time of 10.3s, defeating Ralph Metcalfe.
Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:25 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
denisdman wrote:
Comparing eras is so difficult. I just looked up Jesse Owens 100 time. Wow, big time slow by today's standards.

On August 3, he won the 100m sprint with a time of 10.3s, defeating Ralph Metcalfe.


I dont trust any time keeping records from back in the day. Now we are using sensor pads and electronic timers and stuff. Back then it was a guy with a stopwatch. Think about it, we are talking about .7 seconds between his number and Bolt's record. I think that can be explained away with advanced time keeping and training. Jesse Owens would be just fine.

Edit: And the guy smoked a pack a day :lol: :lol:
Author:  badrogue17 [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
I thought this particular narrative as espoused by Lil Danny was that past eras athletes would / could compete today if they were black. It was only slow , tiny, white athletes of yesteryear that would get wang whipped and are not as good . :scratch:
Author:  Douchebag [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
Hank Scorpio wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Comparing eras is so difficult. I just looked up Jesse Owens 100 time. Wow, big time slow by today's standards.

On August 3, he won the 100m sprint with a time of 10.3s, defeating Ralph Metcalfe.


I dont trust any time keeping records from back in the day. Now we are using sensor pads and electronic timers and stuff. Back then it was a guy with a stopwatch. Think about it, we are talking about .7 seconds between his number and Bolt's record. I think that can be explained away with advanced time keeping and training. Jesse Owens would be just fine.

You can explain 0.7 seconds because of human error? That's alot of time. I can see maybe .1 or .2, but .7 is a huge different in sprinting.
Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
badrogue17 wrote:
I thought this particular narrative as espoused by Lil Danny was that past eras athletes would / could compete today if they were black. It was only slow , tiny, white athletes of yesteryear that would get wang whipped and are not as good . :scratch:


Black athletes didnt start wang whipping until the 70s/80s.
Author:  denisdman [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
Hank Scorpio wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Comparing eras is so difficult. I just looked up Jesse Owens 100 time. Wow, big time slow by today's standards.

On August 3, he won the 100m sprint with a time of 10.3s, defeating Ralph Metcalfe.


I dont trust any time keeping records from back in the day. Now we are using sensor pads and electronic timers and stuff. Back then it was a guy with a stopwatch. Think about it, we are talking about .7 seconds between his number and Bolt's record. I think that can be explained away with advanced time keeping and training. Jesse Owens would be just fine.


Ok do you trust Carl Lewis' best time?

100 m: 9.86 s (August 1991, Tokyo)

Bolt's:

100 m: 9.58 WR (Berlin 2009)[4]

So it improved quite a bit in 20-ish years.
Author:  denisdman [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:29 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
Douchebag wrote:
Hank Scorpio wrote:
denisdman wrote:
Comparing eras is so difficult. I just looked up Jesse Owens 100 time. Wow, big time slow by today's standards.

On August 3, he won the 100m sprint with a time of 10.3s, defeating Ralph Metcalfe.


I dont trust any time keeping records from back in the day. Now we are using sensor pads and electronic timers and stuff. Back then it was a guy with a stopwatch. Think about it, we are talking about .7 seconds between his number and Bolt's record. I think that can be explained away with advanced time keeping and training. Jesse Owens would be just fine.

You can explain 0.7 seconds because of human error? That's alot of time. I can see maybe .1 or .2, but .7 is a huge different in sprinting.


Yeap, I call BS, and thus my other post.
Author:  Douchebag [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:31 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
You could probably make a case for today's runners having better shoes, which would definitely make up that 0.7 second difference, but I'm not buying the time-keeper excuse.
Author:  Rod [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:36 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
Douchebag wrote:
You could probably make a case for today's runners having better shoes, which would definitely make up that 0.7 second difference, but I'm not buying the time-keeper excuse.


And better drugs.
Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
In the last 100 years the average height of men has grown 11 centimeters. I'm sure part of it is just better athletes today via evolution.
Author:  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
FavreFan wrote:
In the last 100 years the average height of men has grown 11 centimeters. I'm sure part of it is just better athletes today via evolution.


What is that? Like a foot?

Go back to Canada, hoser!
Author:  badrogue17 [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
FavreFan wrote:
In the last 100 years the average height of men has grown 11 centimeters. I'm sure part of it is just better athletes today via evolution.

Benstein wrote:
11 and a half to be exact
Author:  Rod [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 4:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
FavreFan wrote:
In the last 100 years the average height of men has grown 11 centimeters. I'm sure part of it is just better athletes today via evolution.


You're kidding, right? Nothing "evolves" in a single generation. Any increase in height is due only to changes in nutrition/standards of living.
Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
In the last 100 years the average height of men has grown 11 centimeters. I'm sure part of it is just better athletes today via evolution.


You're kidding, right? Nothing "evolves" in a single generation. Any increase in height is due only to changes in nutrition/standards of living.

A century isn't a generation and evolutionary traits absolutely unfold within 100 years.
Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
FavreFan wrote:
In the last 100 years the average height of men has grown 11 centimeters. I'm sure part of it is just better athletes today via evolution.


Global warming.
Author:  jimmypasta [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
I haven't seen too many dads that I know who end up being taller then their sons.
Author:  Rod [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
FavreFan wrote:
Joe Orr Road Rod wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
In the last 100 years the average height of men has grown 11 centimeters. I'm sure part of it is just better athletes today via evolution.


You're kidding, right? Nothing "evolves" in a single generation. Any increase in height is due only to changes in nutrition/standards of living.

A century isn't a generation and evolutionary traits absolutely unfold within 100 years.


No. And certainly not to the degree you're suggesting.
Author:  Rod [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
jimmypasta wrote:
I haven't seen too many dads that I know who end up being taller then their sons.


Must be evolution! Your great great grandson will probably be eight feet tall.
Author:  Terry's Peeps [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 5:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 101714.htm
Author:  leashyourkids [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:03 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
Evolution occurs due to favorable traits being passed on through survival of those individuals with the trait. Short people breed just as much as tall people. It has to be due to nutrition/health standards.
Author:  jimmypasta [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
Terry's Peeps wrote:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/09/130902101714.htm


My son is pushing 6'3 which for a full blooded Italian makes him some kind of freak amongst his people.
Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Sep 09, 2013 6:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Could Ali or Joe Louis handle a Klitschko?
Terry's Peeps wrote:
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/09/130902101714.htm

Or you coulda just trusted FavreFan from the internet. Either way...
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