I seriously think he just shows too much compassion for his fellow man now. He lays up.

I truly think he could have gotten Rios out of there had he really wanted to. Same thing with Shane and Margarito. To me, it seems as if he sees how damaged these guys are and definitely lets up.

That was an easy fight for him, but it had to be in a first fight back after suffering a lights out KO.

Rios was never able to adjust to Manny's step-around, and he never got off the haymaker, which is his big punch.

Everyone knew he was tailor-made going in, though. The hope was that he would at least bounce one big one off of Manny's big head, but alas, it was not to be.

The fact that he decisioned another plodding/straight ahead, non counter-punching fighter does not change the fact that Mayweather absolutely destroys him, though.

And, Mayweather would win in a landslide. PM me to lock in your bet now, up to a maximum of $10K.

That started when he lost a couple steps. I don't think it is compassion. He clearly can't do what he once could.

Not true. Mayweather would fight him tomorrow if he left Arum or Arum stepped down.

Come on, dude. You don't like Pacquiao. I get it. It's fine. Look at your first post in the thread. Two days ago it was going to be a good fight. Now it was "tailor-made". No, no, no, don't past-post me now.

He couldn't finish him? The big knucklehead had 10 lbs. on him. It's hard to knock a guy that big with a big dumb head out. You said yourself in the original post, Rios "can take huge amounts of damage without blinking." The reason he wasn't blinking is because Manny's right blinded his dumb ass. And as big as he is, Pac just shoved his way out whenever he was on the ropes. He looked a million times better than he has in his last three fights.

And Mayweather can't destroy him because Mayweather is afraid to fight him. He likes his zero too much.

I though I remember when he fought David Diaz he was quoted as saying he was afraid he was going to kill him in the ring if he didn't back off.

That weight means nothing. Pacquiao has been unable to finish anyone recently. None of the fighters were anywhere near the class of Mayweather. He is never going to win a boxing match against Mayweather. He would have to knock him out to win and without the assistance of steroids he lacks the power to do it. He's never had the skill.

Of course the weight means something. It's tough to knock a bigger guy out. Pacquiao obliterated Rios. He literally cut him up. I think it's funny that you're criticizing Pacquiao for failing to "finish" a guy when his KO record is far better than Mayweather's.

Mayweather isn't just going to be able to cower in his shell and beat Pacquaio. That's why he won't fight him. He's never fought a guy that quick on his feet. I don't even know if there is another guy that quick on his feet.

Floyd is not afraid of shit from Pacquiao. If you saw what counter-puncher Marquez did to Manny, Floyd, who is way faster, smarter, and stronger (and who already embarrassed Marquez, with teh caveat of a weight discrepancy, but the speed and smarts were just way too much - it would not have mattered), would be even more masterful.

Obviously, Pacquiao wasn't at his best in that last fight vs. Marquez. In spite of that he was winning the fight and had knocked Marquez down. He made a mistake and got laid out. That stuff happens when you aren't ducking fights all the time to keep a perfect record in tact.

Mayweather and Pacquiao are completely different types of fighters. That's why the match is so interesting. It's like arguing about whether a lion would beat a bear.

I know how technically sound Mayweather is, but that's also what makes his fights as compelling as watching paint dry.

Finally, I know there's all kinds of politics and various beefs between the promoters. But a fight can always be made if the fighters want to make it.

Fuck no, it can't.

That fight would be made if Floyd agreed to bow down and kiss Big Bob's pinky ring, and that's not gonna happen.

You saw how Bob exercised his power -0 he put it on full display following the bell ending the 12th round of Bradley-Pacquiao.

. . . notice Manny re-signed with him afterward? Bob had the belts locked-up for leverage. You don't fuck with old power brokers like that.

There was nothing extreme about the drug testing demands Mayweather had. He asks for the same thing for all his fights. Why wouldn't he ask Pacquiao? Especially considering how big and powerful he had suddenly got. Utimately Pacquiao was willing to give in to the demands IF Mayweather split the purse. That was never going to happen. Mayweather is the marquee attraction. Pacquiao is 2 years younger than Mayweather so it is likely Floyd would slow down first. He's not a great fighter without his speed and quickness.

Both Arum and Mayweather have millions of excuses for not making the fight. Placing the blame on one or the other simply reveals bias IMO.

That's fair. But I also believe Mayweather is obsessed with his place in the conversation of the greatest boxers of all time. He doesn't have a lot to gain by fighting Pacquaio. Except money and he already has plenty of that.

That's fair. But I also believe Mayweather is obsessed with his place in the conversation of the greatest boxers of all time. He doesn't have a lot to gain by fighting Pacquaio. Except money and he already has plenty of that.

How can you put it all on Mayweather when if this is accurate


(that is, that Mayweather was willing to compromise up on the drug testing issue, but Pacquiao's side never moved one inch to make the fight save for when video evidence caught him being tested less than 30 days out for a fight).

It stands to reason that Mayweather is the major impediment to the fight happening. He has the most to lose.