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In a series of rapid-fire moves, this is what happened next: The New Orleans Saints traded all six of their picks this year and first- and third-round picks next year to the Redskins to trade up to the fifth spot and grab Williams.

The Redskins then moved back from the 12th spot to No. 7 by swapping first-round picks and added four picks in the deal with Chicago to move up and take Champ Bailey, the player they wanted to take at No. 5.

The Bears dropped down to the 12th spot, got the four extra picks and selected quarterback Cade McNown, the player they would have taken in the seventh spot.


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Obviously the Ditka trade is an outlier - I assume nothing even remotely close to that has never happened since. A dumbass thing to do even if Williams ended up being great. New Orleans' pick in 2000 ended up being no 2 which Washington used on LaVar Arrington. Washington also had the no 3 pick (to have #2 and #3 - crazy) which they used on Chris Samuels. Perhaps Pace secretly admires Ditka's GM skills.

I'm not sure about Washington - who just added seven picks thanks to dumbass Ditka - trading four picks to Chicago to move up five spots. Obviously they struck gold in the HOF'er Champ Bailey but just thought the price was steep.

Chicago seems to have benefitted the most in the short term thanks to Ditka. Move back five spots and pick up four more picks. Of course I'm writing this from the perspective of 1999. In hindsight they picked a bust at 12, we all know that. At the time, though, seemed like a good deal. Washington though by picking up five 1999 picks and two picks next year (one of which ended up being #2 overall) seemed to benefit most overall.

And all of this may have never happened had Indy not surprised everyone by picking Edgerrin James over Williams.

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That was in general a shitty draft, has anyone out of that class made the HOF?


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Champ Bailey, cornerback from Georgia taken 1st round 7th overall by the Washington Redskins.
Inducted: Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2019.

Edgerrin James, running back from Miami (FL) taken 1st round 4th overall by the Indianapolis Colts.
Inducted: Pro Football Hall of Fame Class of 2020.

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Williams was a better back.

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I don't really think James belongs in the HOF. Only 1 time made 1st team all pro, pedestrian YPC stats, never saw loaded box thanks to Manning and that passing game.


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Williams was a better back.

And if the law and league didn’t have the stupid prohibition on weed he’d be a no doubt hall of famer.

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Weed seems like a good idea for men getting their heads bashed in week after week. Pain management.

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Nas wrote:
Williams was a better back.

And if the law and league didn’t have the stupid prohibition on weed he’d be a no doubt hall of famer.


Agreed.

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Even if Washington seemed to win the trade, did that help them become a winning team? No because they are run by idiots. The Walker trade basically set up the Cowboys run in the 90s. The Williams trade basically was a big shrug because this draft class was a meh. I always imagined that Ditka made that trade because he had a 2:00 tee time and wanted to make it.

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That 49ers trade for Trey Lance looks like one of the worst trades ever. That's with Jimmy G saving the organization this year and last year.

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That 49ers trade for Trey Lance looks like one of the worst trades ever. That's with Jimmy G saving the organization this year and last year.


Even worse than trading one entire draft plus next year's first and third for Williams?

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That 49ers trade for Trey Lance looks like one of the worst trades ever. That's with Jimmy G saving the organization this year and last year.


Even worse than trading one entire draft plus next year's first and third for Williams?


Yeah. At least the Saints got the best running back in the draft and arguably the best player. The 49ers gave up 3 first round picks and a 3rd for possibly the worst quarterback in the draft. Unquestionably the worst quarterback taken in the first round. It doesn't help Parsons was drafted with their pick.

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