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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 4:11 pm 
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Brian's Mojito wrote:
Wow! Nice job Tebow. Way to step up when your team needed you most.
Now, they might not make the playoffs.


Oakland will lose.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Brian's Mojito wrote:
Wow! Nice job Tebow. Way to step up when your team needed you most.
Now, they might not make the playoffs.


Oakland will lose.


No, the AFC west a big suckfest

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PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 4:25 pm 
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Thank Jebus they won.

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8 TOs in his last four games.
Someone's prayers aren't being answered any more.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:09 pm 
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How long are you going to remain this reluctant to admit that the guy is a good FOOTBALL PLAYER, regardless of position?
Who doesn't think he's a good football player? I think he could play at least 2 positions better than he plays QB. He probably could be a good long snapper too.


As long as you keep ignoring the facts, I can understand how you come to your position.
Happy New Year BD.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 12:11 pm 
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In my mind, the interesting thing about the whole Tebow experience, and it has received little play, is how the Broncos coaching staff has effectively designed a game-plan around Tebow's "skills." Is Hanie better than Tebow? I don't think so. But, he's not a lot worse, IMO. It's been a real feat of coaching to design an offense around a guy who can't throw worth shit, but Fox's staff has managed it. Not to say the Denver offense is good by any stretch, but they've done about as good as one could do with what they have. The Bears, by contrast, have done nothing whatever to make the most of their shit QB.

Tebow sucks as a QB, and I don't believe he'll ever be worth a damn. But for this stretch of games, the Broncos game-plan has been excellent in exploiting his strengths and minimizing his weaknesses. It wouldn't take the Bears doing much with their defense for them to beat shitty teams despite a bad offense; the Broncos have simply adapted better than the Bears.

ETA: the Brocnos will get crushed against competent NFL teams, and Tebow will never be the type of QB who will lead a team to a championship, but this episode has shown what creative coaching can do in a league with so much parity, and a bit too much conservative wisdom.


People who don't like him have the same arguments. He doesn't look good throwing the ball. He's inaccurate. His completion percentage is low, etc.

The reality is that they leave out the more important stats. He's 6-1 as a starter on a team that was 1-4 without him in the lineup, so he wins. He has more 4th quarter/OT winning drives than any other QB in the League in terms of percentage of games played, so he's clutch and you want the ball in his hand with the game on the line. The Broncos all of a sudden have the best rushing Offense in the NFL, demonstrating an ability to run the ball, control the clock, keep games close, and put the ball in Tebow's hands with the game on the line. The team has seen their 3rd down conversion percentage skyrocket, which is due to short yards to convert due to a running the ball and feature third and shorts with Tebow in the backfield, allowing them to keep drives alive, keep their Defense off the field, and keep the opposing Offense off the field. They've seen their time of possession skyrocket for many of the same reasons. And perhaps the #1 statistic for the guy? He has an 8:1 TD to TO ratio in the team's last 5 games. In other words, he doesn't turn the ball over.

So. Here is the recipe:

1. #1 Rushing Offense in the League with a QB who is arguably your best RB at the moment (mind you this team is missing their starting RB and for much of this run, was missing their #2 RB, as well)
2. Dominating Time of Possession
3. Have a very high 3rd down conversion percentage
4. DON'T TURN THE BALL OVER
5. Have a guy who is turning into one of the most clutch QB's in the NFL in just his first season as a starter, allowing the team to win close games (which they have a lot of as a run first/control clock style football team

What is so hard to figure out here? And why does this not equate to an outstanding football player? Because he doesn't stand in the pocket and fit your conventional wisdom of what a QB can do? How'd that work out for them when Orton was in the game?
Happy New Year BD.

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With more games on tape, defenses next year will know what to expect with Tebow. The Bears and Pats have provided that template so far for the rest of this season. If anything unless Tebow can get a lot better throwing the ball in the pocket, that offense will be worse next year. Defenses are going to catch up to it even more than they already have.





the jets shut down tebow better than the bears and lost..just because you win does not mean that the qb played well..tebow is not a starter in the nfl on a good team...vince young and mark sanchez and rex grossman all won games with defense while they sucked.

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All he does is back into the playoffs with 2 awful performances and losses in a row. Stupid Oakland.

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His numbers are just embarassing, 6 for 22 today. He really needs to go away after they lose on wild card weekend.

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His numbers are just embarassing, 6 for 22 today. He really needs to go away after they lose on wild card weekend.

They look to be getting the Steelers who should be able to beat the piss out of them.

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If Denver won I would have clinched third place and won $100. Now I have to wait for the Giants/Cowboys game. He's just awful.

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I guess Tebow can now add to his power drink commercial.
"They said I couldn't lead a team into the playoffs."

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He really needs to go away after they lose on wild card weekend.

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Interesting developments, thus far. The Bronco's really needed a TD on their last possession of the half but they caught a break with the flubbed snap to Rothlisberger.

Tebow isn't playing bad at all, the Bronco's have a great chance to take this game and proceed into the next round.

Play solid D, run the ball well and make a few passes.

If they win, that very loud explosion you will hear will be Lil' Danny BernSTINE's skull blowing the fuck up.

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Interesting developments, thus far. The Bronco's really needed a TD on their last possession of the half but they caught a break with the flubbed snap to Rothlisberger.

Tebow isn't playing bad at all, the Bronco's have a great chance to take this game and proceed into the next round.

Play solid D, run the ball well and make a few passes.

If they win, that very loud explosion you will hear will be Lil' Danny BernSTINE's skull blowing the fuck up.

Duck and Cover!

If he wins today and they go to Foxboro and Beat Brady, The NFL will disband.


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Interesting developments, thus far. The Bronco's really needed a TD on their last possession of the half but they caught a break with the flubbed snap to Rothlisberger.

Tebow isn't playing bad at all, the Bronco's have a great chance to take this game and proceed into the next round.

Play solid D, run the ball well and make a few passes.

If they win, that very loud explosion you will hear will be Lil' Danny BernSTINE's skull blowing the fuck up.

Duck and Cover!

If he wins today and they go to Foxboro and Beat Brady, The NFL will disband.


That will be it, eh?

Count me in as officially rooting for Tebow. I don't really care either way but him winning will bring out some awesome media reaction and a good day at the Score.

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Tebow!

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Still bad.

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He just threw for 300+ yards 2 TDs on Pittsburgh. Wow. That was fun.

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TEBOW THROWS MAGNIFICENT 80 YD TOUCHDOWN TO WIN GAME



The reciever, what's his name? went 50 yds after the catch in traffic


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:lol:
Gotta get the narrative down.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Still bad.


haters gonna hate


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Yep.

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This was one of the best games of Tebows life, if not his best... Far better accuracy, great decision making, and the clutch factor so few have... Oh yeah and Demaryus Thomas' YaC abilities...

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This was one of the best games of Tebows life, if not his best... Far better accuracy, great decision making, and the clutch factor so few have... Oh yeah and Demaryus Thomas' YaC abilities...


47.6% Completion

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I mainly want to see him do well because I get a kick out of how upset it makes people.


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Tad Queasy wrote:
I mainly want to see him do well because I get a kick out of how upset it makes people.


And I mainly want people to be honest about what he is and not deify the guy.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
Tad Queasy wrote:
I mainly want to see him do well because I get a kick out of how upset it makes people.


And I mainly want people to be honest about what he is and not deify the guy.

He's great @ winning close games... That's what he is...

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