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It's a good deal for the non rich players.

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It's not

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Players actually had leverage and pissed it away. Then sign a ten year deal .

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Also minimum players can now be forced to sign split contracts which means they actually make less when they get hurt and are not active. They also cut disability benefits.

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They are going to make significantly more money and expanded roster spots will help them even more.

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You're focused on a slight increase in minimum salary with a shit load of poison pills that can literally wipe that out. In every other way they're getting fucked too.

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Some players will benefit and others may not but it's undeniable that the total revenue split went up, and that total revenue will be increased significantly based on an extra game and two extra playoff games. Based on how the salary cap works it is undeniable that the total amount of money NFL players will make will go up. Aaron Rodgers doesn't care about a raise of $75k a year. Others will though.

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Multiple minimum guys will get a 90k raise, suffer season ending injury early in season then actually end up taking a 200K pay cut from last season.

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They will get a 0.3% raise in revenues if owners get 120% increase on next TV deal with 17th game.

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Where is this coming from? It says salary protection for injury went from $1 million to $2 million.

With any agreement there are going to be winners and losers though. It seems to be undeniable that the average player is going to make far more money with this.

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Some players could see some decline but most of those players will make more money.

Those types of contracts also seem to be only possible for fringe NFL players anyways.

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Well for every extra million in new money made on new tv deal over 120% the owners split up 997,000 for 32 people. The players get 3k for 2000 people. But they get a bigger raise!!!!


The amount of shared revenue would rise another three-tenths of a percentage point if the value of the league’s broadcast contracts grows by 120 percent or more, a gain that cannot be counted on just yet.

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If you are a minimum player you are a fringe player.

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This just doesn't make sense. The players total revenue share is going from 47% to 48% with other things that can happen that would push it close to 48.5%.

Are you sure you aren't doing the math wrong? For every extra million in new money, the players get 480,000 to 485,000 and the owners get 515,000 to 520,000 depending on where the revenue sharing percentage comes in. Why would it be a split of 997,000 and 3,000 given the way tv money is divided now?

I may very well be wrong but your split doesn't make sense. TV revenue is shared close to 50% with the owners taking 2 or 3% extra.

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Damn, now I have to buy Madden next year to stay current.

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The players are shortening their careers for an extra 0.3% of revenue on what will likely be a massive TV deal. That is terrible negotiating on their part.

The minimum players pushed through a deal that will likely end up fucking many of them since so many get hurt.

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Isn't the .3% in addition to the extra money for the 48% they get? If the total revenue goes up a dollar they get 48 cents more.

It wont shorten careers. Less preseason games and practices balance out on more game.

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Players that make teams barely play preseason games now and also rarely hit in practice now to. Not even close to the same wear and tear of a real game.

Also, players do not get any of the gambling money that is about to come in. Great Deal!!!

https://deadspin.com/eric-reid-says-nfl ... 1842303802

The biggest economic issue is that the gambling revenue is systematically being diverted away from shared revenue. The new pie created from legalized gambling is the largest windfall the game or Players Association membership has seen in decades. There is no justification for such large and uncapped revenue streams being excluded from shared revenue. There is no justification for such massive exclusions, and no economic tradeoff found in the proposal that justifies this massive loss to players. What happens when they have a sports book or casino in or outside the stadium? Best-case scenario is that the players will share in only a small fraction of the owners’ annual casino revenue. However, if the owner is well advised, none of that revenue will be shared. Owners will likely bring in partners in operating these casinos. This proposal excludes all gambling related revenue if the club is a 5% or less owner in the casino. Of course they will be! Five percent of a casino is a lot. The money from this giveaway, in itself, could increase the minimum salary and cure a broken benefits system many times over.

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Come on, the 5% threshold is to avoid charging them for personal investments. That is the SEC required threshold for reporting obligations so it is the right level. So if Jerry Jones buys into MGM stock, he has to share that with the players?

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If he is making money off of NFL games being bet he should.

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Why would anyone think the players aren't getting screwed on the deal? Say you knew literally nothing about what the CBA contained but knew the history of NFL labor relations. If you were forced to bet on who "won" the negotiations, every single one of us would pick the owners.

The percentage of revenue for the casino off its sports book is just not that high to the total. If it’s a mainly monoline business like Draft Kings, ok I might be inclined to agree. But if it’s MGM, they aren’t making that much off the book.

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The owners are not giving a good deal over a year in advance. They just gave same bad deal and used scare tactics to push through. The have lowered long term disability benefits and minimum guys will make a lot less when they get hurt.

The chip the players had was the 17th game and they gave that away for an additional 0.3% of total revenue if the owners get over 120% on next rights deal.

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For now but gambling is about to be legal everywhere and you will have Kiosk in stadiums with in a few years. That thing is about to explode.

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I am inclined to agree with you guys that the players probably lose on this deal especially with the length. However, I do think getting it in done in advance was truly to negotiate better tv deals, which is where most of the money comes from. Having extra games is a lot to offer when the networks are bidding. It is in both sides interest to maximize the tv money.

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It’s been legal in Vegas forever, and it is just a small part of the pie. I get where you’re coming from though. The 5% was most likely done to avoid wrapping in personal investments. But who knows, maybe each owner partners with casinos just below that cap.

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Once again. It's 48.3 percent of total revenue.

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Once again, they are only adding an additional 0.3% of total revenue for an extra game. That is also only if the league gets 120% increase. That should be worth more. They got 53% percent pre 2011.

But minimum players got a 90k raise if they stay healthy and all players got reduced disability benefits by 200k per year when they are older!!

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