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Pro Football Focus' top two graded safeties so far this year are Washington's D.J. Swearinger and ... you guessed it, Clinton-Dix

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Hilarious. All these guys want out of Green Bay.

The Packers have the best QB ever but have adorned him permanently with arguably the worst coach of this century.


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Pro Football Focus' top two graded safeties so far this year are Washington's D.J. Swearinger and ... you guessed it, Clinton-Dix

Our rookie CB is graded as their 6th best CB in the league. He's good but not that good. Their grades are meaningless.

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There is alot beneath the surface with Ha-Ha. He quit on the team last year and his effort was horrendous. He has also blown a bunch of his safety responsibilities this year and has been going rogue by trying to jump routes he shouldn't be jumping and leaving the corners horribly exposed. I can't tell you how many times the packers have given up a really bad long td pass and the announcers say " it looks like he was expecting help over the top". He wants to have a huge INT # thi year and then cash it in. He is also a very good tackler who shies away from contact as he doesn't want to get injured. He always shows up after a play and barely arm tackles......unless its a TFL then he blows the guy up to put it on tape.

They would have gotten a 4th rd comp pick for him so this only a marginal draft stock gain. They wanted to get rid of him and they did. They did not need to do this, they wanted to.


They wanted it so badly that they started him the last 71 or so games.

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There is alot beneath the surface with Ha-Ha. He quit on the team last year and his effort was horrendous. He has also blown a bunch of his safety responsibilities this year and has been going rogue by trying to jump routes he shouldn't be jumping and leaving the corners horribly exposed. I can't tell you how many times the packers have given up a really bad long td pass and the announcers say " it looks like he was expecting help over the top". He wants to have a huge INT # thi year and then cash it in. He is also a very good tackler who shies away from contact as he doesn't want to get injured. He always shows up after a play and barely arm tackles......unless its a TFL then he blows the guy up to put it on tape.

They would have gotten a 4th rd comp pick for him so this only a marginal draft stock gain. They wanted to get rid of him and they did. They did not need to do this, they wanted to.


They wanted it so badly that they started him the last 71 or so games.

lot of whistling by the cemetery by Packer fans on this Halloween

How many wins do you think the trades cost GB? What did you have their record at the end of the year before the trades and what do you see it as now?

I'll say 9-6-1 before and 9-6-1 after. Same team.

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There is alot beneath the surface with Ha-Ha. He quit on the team last year and his effort was horrendous. He has also blown a bunch of his safety responsibilities this year and has been going rogue by trying to jump routes he shouldn't be jumping and leaving the corners horribly exposed. I can't tell you how many times the packers have given up a really bad long td pass and the announcers say " it looks like he was expecting help over the top". He wants to have a huge INT # thi year and then cash it in. He is also a very good tackler who shies away from contact as he doesn't want to get injured. He always shows up after a play and barely arm tackles......unless its a TFL then he blows the guy up to put it on tape.

They would have gotten a 4th rd comp pick for him so this only a marginal draft stock gain. They wanted to get rid of him and they did. They did not need to do this, they wanted to.

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good dolphin wrote:
Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
There is alot beneath the surface with Ha-Ha. He quit on the team last year and his effort was horrendous. He has also blown a bunch of his safety responsibilities this year and has been going rogue by trying to jump routes he shouldn't be jumping and leaving the corners horribly exposed. I can't tell you how many times the packers have given up a really bad long td pass and the announcers say " it looks like he was expecting help over the top". He wants to have a huge INT # thi year and then cash it in. He is also a very good tackler who shies away from contact as he doesn't want to get injured. He always shows up after a play and barely arm tackles......unless its a TFL then he blows the guy up to put it on tape.

They would have gotten a 4th rd comp pick for him so this only a marginal draft stock gain. They wanted to get rid of him and they did. They did not need to do this, they wanted to.


They wanted it so badly that they started him the last 71 or so games.

lot of whistling by the cemetery by Packer fans on this Halloween

How many wins do you think the trades cost GB? What did you have their record at the end of the year before the trades and what do you see it as now?

I'll say 9-6-1 before and 9-6-1 after. Same team.

Ya, this isn't Mack where he transforms a defense. Packers won't be winning anything anyways this year.

And if you were to pinpoint the root issues this year it'd be the offense and special teams. Defense has been OK.


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Rodgers should have said he's not gonna sign that deal unless McCarthy is fired.

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Kirkwood wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
There is alot beneath the surface with Ha-Ha. He quit on the team last year and his effort was horrendous. He has also blown a bunch of his safety responsibilities this year and has been going rogue by trying to jump routes he shouldn't be jumping and leaving the corners horribly exposed. I can't tell you how many times the packers have given up a really bad long td pass and the announcers say " it looks like he was expecting help over the top". He wants to have a huge INT # thi year and then cash it in. He is also a very good tackler who shies away from contact as he doesn't want to get injured. He always shows up after a play and barely arm tackles......unless its a TFL then he blows the guy up to put it on tape.

They would have gotten a 4th rd comp pick for him so this only a marginal draft stock gain. They wanted to get rid of him and they did. They did not need to do this, they wanted to.


They wanted it so badly that they started him the last 71 or so games.

lot of whistling by the cemetery by Packer fans on this Halloween

How many wins do you think the trades cost GB? What did you have their record at the end of the year before the trades and what do you see it as now?

I'll say 9-6-1 before and 9-6-1 after. Same team.

Ya, this isn't Mack where he transforms a defense. Packers won't be winning anything anyways this year.

And if you were to pinpoint the root issues this year it'd be the offense and special teams. Defense has been OK.


That sounds an awful lot like a white flag post to me.

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FavreFan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
There is alot beneath the surface with Ha-Ha. He quit on the team last year and his effort was horrendous. He has also blown a bunch of his safety responsibilities this year and has been going rogue by trying to jump routes he shouldn't be jumping and leaving the corners horribly exposed. I can't tell you how many times the packers have given up a really bad long td pass and the announcers say " it looks like he was expecting help over the top". He wants to have a huge INT # thi year and then cash it in. He is also a very good tackler who shies away from contact as he doesn't want to get injured. He always shows up after a play and barely arm tackles......unless its a TFL then he blows the guy up to put it on tape.

They would have gotten a 4th rd comp pick for him so this only a marginal draft stock gain. They wanted to get rid of him and they did. They did not need to do this, they wanted to.


They wanted it so badly that they started him the last 71 or so games.

lot of whistling by the cemetery by Packer fans on this Halloween

How many wins do you think the trades cost GB? What did you have their record at the end of the year before the trades and what do you see it as now?

I'll say 9-6-1 before and 9-6-1 after. Same team.


Your manner of analysis leads to a conclusion that all parts are fungible save for Rogers.

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good dolphin wrote:
Kirkwood wrote:
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good dolphin wrote:
Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
There is alot beneath the surface with Ha-Ha. He quit on the team last year and his effort was horrendous. He has also blown a bunch of his safety responsibilities this year and has been going rogue by trying to jump routes he shouldn't be jumping and leaving the corners horribly exposed. I can't tell you how many times the packers have given up a really bad long td pass and the announcers say " it looks like he was expecting help over the top". He wants to have a huge INT # thi year and then cash it in. He is also a very good tackler who shies away from contact as he doesn't want to get injured. He always shows up after a play and barely arm tackles......unless its a TFL then he blows the guy up to put it on tape.

They would have gotten a 4th rd comp pick for him so this only a marginal draft stock gain. They wanted to get rid of him and they did. They did not need to do this, they wanted to.


They wanted it so badly that they started him the last 71 or so games.

lot of whistling by the cemetery by Packer fans on this Halloween

How many wins do you think the trades cost GB? What did you have their record at the end of the year before the trades and what do you see it as now?

I'll say 9-6-1 before and 9-6-1 after. Same team.

Ya, this isn't Mack where he transforms a defense. Packers won't be winning anything anyways this year.

And if you were to pinpoint the root issues this year it'd be the offense and special teams. Defense has been OK.


That sounds an awful lot like a white flag post to me.

duh. as would any other sane person with eyes on packers games


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good dolphin wrote:
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good dolphin wrote:
Urlacher's missing neck wrote:
There is alot beneath the surface with Ha-Ha. He quit on the team last year and his effort was horrendous. He has also blown a bunch of his safety responsibilities this year and has been going rogue by trying to jump routes he shouldn't be jumping and leaving the corners horribly exposed. I can't tell you how many times the packers have given up a really bad long td pass and the announcers say " it looks like he was expecting help over the top". He wants to have a huge INT # thi year and then cash it in. He is also a very good tackler who shies away from contact as he doesn't want to get injured. He always shows up after a play and barely arm tackles......unless its a TFL then he blows the guy up to put it on tape.

They would have gotten a 4th rd comp pick for him so this only a marginal draft stock gain. They wanted to get rid of him and they did. They did not need to do this, they wanted to.


They wanted it so badly that they started him the last 71 or so games.

lot of whistling by the cemetery by Packer fans on this Halloween

How many wins do you think the trades cost GB? What did you have their record at the end of the year before the trades and what do you see it as now?

I'll say 9-6-1 before and 9-6-1 after. Same team.


Your manner of analysis leads to a conclusion that all parts are fungible save for Rogers.

An opinion you yourself have offered up multiple times on here.

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good dolphin wrote:

Your manner of analysis leads to a conclusion that all parts are fungible save for Rogers.

An opinion you yourself have offered up multiple times on here.

only people I'd be disappointed if they're cut:

adams
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Kirkwood wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:

Your manner of analysis leads to a conclusion that all parts are fungible save for Rogers.

An opinion you yourself have offered up multiple times on here.

only people I'd be disappointed if they're cut:

adams
bahktiari
linsley
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small list. not good.


So much for Pro-Bowl TE Jimmy Graham!


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Kirkwood wrote:
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good dolphin wrote:

Your manner of analysis leads to a conclusion that all parts are fungible save for Rogers.

An opinion you yourself have offered up multiple times on here.

only people I'd be disappointed if they're cut:

adams
bahktiari
linsley
clark
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king
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small list. not good.


No love for the 2nd best QB in the NFL or in Packers history? Sad!

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HaHa was missed tonight. The Packers have a good defensive coordinator.

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There are many reasons the Packers lost tonight. HaHa was not one of them. He was a stat whoring, shitty player and they were better without him. With him gone and Whitehead getting ejected their safeties had one of their best games of the year. Aside from that atrocious missed tackle by tramon (idk if he was playing cb or s on that play) they were solid.

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There are many reasons the Packers lost tonight. HaHa was not one of them. He was a stat whoring, shitty player and they were better without him. With him gone and Whitehead getting ejected their safeties had one of their best games of the year. Aside from that atrocious missed tackle by tramon (idk if he was playing cb or s on that play) they were solid.


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Rodgers didn't play that well last night but Mike McCarthy has got to go

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There are many reasons the Packers lost tonight. HaHa was not one of them. He was a stat whoring, shitty player and they were better without him. With him gone and Whitehead getting ejected their safeties had one of their best games of the year. Aside from that atrocious missed tackle by tramon (idk if he was playing cb or s on that play) they were solid.


what about the blown coverages on the Gordon TD?

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Rodgers didn't play that well last night but Mike McCarthy has got to go


I thought he struggled in the 4th quarter but his play this season has been the best I've seen him play. The talent combined with the understanding of the game.

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Pro Football Focus' top two graded safeties so far this year are Washington's D.J. Swearinger and ... you guessed it, Clinton-Dix

Our rookie CB is graded as their 6th best CB in the league. He's good but not that good. Their grades are meaningless.

DJ Swearinger and Ha-Ha as top two rated safeties is more of an indictment on PFF's grading system than the players. I hate the blind faith in PFF because they were the first to publish easily digestible ratings/rankings


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Pro Football Focus' top two graded safeties so far this year are Washington's D.J. Swearinger and ... you guessed it, Clinton-Dix

Our rookie CB is graded as their 6th best CB in the league. He's good but not that good. Their grades are meaningless.

DJ Swearinger and Ha-Ha as top two rated safeties is more of an indictment on PFF's grading system than the players. I hate the blind faith in PFF because they were the first to publish easily digestible ratings/rankings

Washington trades for Haha and their top 10 defense immediately shits the bed in his first game. Probably not a coincidence. Lotta out of town stupid on the Haha trade

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When do they put Rodgers on season ending IR and quit?

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When do they put Rodgers on season ending IR and quit?
When do the Packers lose at Soldier Field...Dec 2nd?

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Rodgers' quarterback rating is going to be terrible until he stops throwing away so many passes. He gives up and launches one to the sideline almost every set of downs.

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Rodgers' quarterback rating is going to be terrible until he stops throwing away so many passes. He gives up and launches one to the sideline almost every set of downs.


Afraid to take risks. That's a smart approach against bums but you have to take some against elite teams.

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Rough day for the "haha Clinton dix is a good safety and the Packers are worse without him" crowd.

The guy sucks and was the single biggest reason the Redskins lost today. It was great to watch.

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