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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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Bears' roster ranked among NFL's worst
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It seems like a lifetime ago that the Bears were considered one of the favorites to represent in the NFC in the Super Bowl. But it wasn't a lifetime ago; it was just last season.

Yet, here we are. The narrative around the Bears entering 2020 is that they're more likely to be one of the first five picks of the 2021 NFL draft than they are a playoff contender.

Much of the concern around this team is at quarterback, where Chicago has yet to identify its starter. The competitors, former second overall pick, Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky, and past Super Bowl winner, Nick Foles, don't profile as franchise quarterbacks at this point in their careers. Still, how many teams can legitimately say they have a guy like that leading their offense?

What the Bears do have is the equivalent of a franchise-changing player on the defensive side of the ball with Khalil Mack. Additionally, Eddie Jackson is considered one of the best -- if not the best -- safeties in the game. He's certainly being paid as such. The defense is an all-around powerhouse that should be more than capable of leading this team to its fair share of wins.

But, again, this is an offseason that's all about bashing the Bears. It continued on ESPN, which completed their ranking of every roster in the NFL. Chicago checked-in near the bottom of the league at No. 21.

With the return of Akiem Hicks from injury and the upgrade from Leonard Floyd to Robert Quinn at the edge defender spot opposite Khalil Mack, the Bears should have one of the best defensive fronts in the NFL. Even in a down year by his standards in 2019, Mack still earned an overall grade of 86.2. Dating to his second season in 2015, he has graded above 80.0 as both a run defender and pass-rusher in every season. That makes him the focus for offensive lines, but there aren’t a whole lot of places to hide when facing Chicago.

That's the good news. The bad news?

Chicago finished the 2019 season ranked 25th in PFF's end-of-year offensive line rankings after a year that saw it allow pressure in 2.37 seconds on average -- 29th in the NFL ahead of only the Dolphins, Chargers and Falcons. Offseason acquisition Germain Ifedi is projected to move from tackle to guard in the starting lineup, but he has yet to crack an overall grade of 60.0 across four years as first the starting right guard and then the right tackle for the Seattle Seahawks.
According to ESPN, Foles will be the Bears' X-Factor. But is he? If you've been paying attention to what Bears players have been saying this offseason, it seems pretty clear that the locker room is in (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky's corner. It would be best for this team if (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky plays up to his scouting report, one that suggested he'd be a Drew Brees-like quarterback. His physical talent is undisputed, and the fact he's taking charge with voluntary private workouts has his arrow pointing in the right direction. And if he takes hold of his talent and uses that locker room confidence to propel his play to the next level, he will be the X-factor that returns Chicago back into contender status.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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Cincinnati is still really bad and Houston had a legendarily terrible off-season, but yeah I could see an argument for the Bears being the NFL's worst team.


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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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Khalil Mack is not a high impact player any more. Its a fact, watch the second half of last season. He was good, but seldom great. Fringe pro-bowler.


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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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I know. It's a damn shame.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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Tough sport. From best in the world to merely good in eight games.


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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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Tough sport. From best in the world to merely good in eight games.


Fake news


You are gonna be the biggest apologist this year when you see Mack and Quinn.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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He doesn't stink but he's not dominant anymore. He can get single teamed with reasonable success, still makes a nice play or two. Nowhere near what he was before when he had to be obsessively gameplanned for or he'd single-handedly win the game.

Bears best player is Allen Robinson. Kyle Fuller, Eddie Jackson, RRH and Roquan are about as good as Mack. The rest is so bad it barely belong on an NFL roster.


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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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NFL cutting preseason in half. Only 2 games.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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NFL cutting preseason in half. Only 2 games.

Make it permanent.


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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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NFL cutting preseason in half. Only 2 games.

Make it permanent.


Agreed

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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He doesn't stink but he's not dominant anymore. He can get single teamed with reasonable success, still makes a nice play or two. Nowhere near what he was before when he had to be obsessively gameplanned for or he'd single-handedly win the game.

Bears best player is Allen Robinson. Kyle Fuller, Eddie Jackson, RRH and Roquan are about as good as Mack. The rest is so bad it barely belong on an NFL roster.


You been huffing glue again?

Goldman and Hicks are pro bowl caliber players

Nichols is even better than Rob Roy

Trevathan is a good defender

Gipson is a 29 year old former pro bowl safety who is better and cheaper than Adrian Amos, just like Dix

you cannot just dismiss out of hand a high second rounder either

I know you'll throw down some country gibberish about a couple of these guys but even under your worst case scenario these guys are all rosterable on any NFL team

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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Caller Bob wrote:
Terry's Peeps wrote:
NFL cutting preseason in half. Only 2 games.

Make it permanent.

I used to be of this mind, but if they cant hit in practice we need the preseason games. Weeks 1-4 are already sloppy enough as is.


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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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He doesn't stink but he's not dominant anymore. He can get single teamed with reasonable success, still makes a nice play or two. Nowhere near what he was before when he had to be obsessively gameplanned for or he'd single-handedly win the game.

Bears best player is Allen Robinson. Kyle Fuller, Eddie Jackson, RRH and Roquan are about as good as Mack. The rest is so bad it barely belong on an NFL roster.


You been huffing glue again?

Goldman and Hicks are pro bowl caliber players

Nichols is even better than Rob Roy

Trevathan is a good defender

Gipson is a 29 year old former pro bowl safety who is better and cheaper than Adrian Amos, just like Dix

you cannot just dismiss out of hand a high second rounder either

I know you'll throw down some country gibberish about a couple of these guys but even under your worst case scenario these guys are all rosterable on any NFL team

Oh they're all fine. I didn't mean EVERYONE else sucked. I think Anthony Miller is as good as as the twentieth best wide receiver in the league but sadly he will never produce when his quarterback and coach conspire to hamstring him constantly. Cody Whitehair is a good starter too.

But this roster is putrid. Lot of suck permeating its every corner.


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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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Antarctica wrote:
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NFL cutting preseason in half. Only 2 games.

Make it permanent.

I used to be of this mind, but if they cant hit in practice we need the preseason games. Weeks 1-4 are already sloppy enough as is.

The starters don't play any preseasons game to begin with.


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I think maybe have two televised preseason games in full team stadiums after four organised scrimmages teams hold at their facilities during training camp would be a good solution here. More room for the bubble guys to make a splash while the veterans can all sit out. Then two dress rehearsals for the big dance.


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Vegas heat gonna kill the 'rona.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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Vegas heat gonna kill the 'rona.

RAIDERS!

But they play in a air conditioned, tinted glass bubble. Where the Rona! thrives.

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Terry's Peeps wrote:
NFL cutting preseason in half. Only 2 games.

My bet with FF looks better by the day.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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NFL cutting preseason in half. Only 2 games.

My bet with FF looks better by the day.

My guess is that they're half assing reality now to keep a hold on the season ticket suckers' money.

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 Post subject: Re: NFL Offseason
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Franky T wrote:
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NFL cutting preseason in half. Only 2 games.

My bet with FF looks better by the day.

I’m feeling good about it. Trimming the fat and all signs pointing to a season still

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NFL cutting preseason in half. Only 2 games.

My bet with FF looks better by the day.

I’m feeling good about it. Trimming the fat and all signs pointing to a season still

Yeah. Starting in late September and ending before thanksgiving.

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NFL won't shutdown, only 4 guys in MLB opted out and they all suck..they wouldn't have made a team if they were free agents. Even if their is a second sstay at home order in the fall the ratings will double or triple from a typical NFL game.

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Franky T wrote:
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NFL cutting preseason in half. Only 2 games.

My bet with FF looks better by the day.

I’m feeling good about it. Trimming the fat and all signs pointing to a season still

Yeah. Starting in late September and ending before thanksgiving.

My faith is stronger than your doubt

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FedEx is asking the Washington Football Team to change their name.

Poor greg.

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FedEx is asking the Washington Football Team to change their name.

Poor greg.


They have enough skin in the game to make the request. Just go with Washington Bullets.

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