Hawger's sources said Colts were looking to trade up. Gute swiped in front of the 2nd best GM in football. Even more confident in the pick.

Right in time to pay him big money and cut Rodgers?

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For the right player it was worth pissing Rodgers off. Love isn't that player, those seventeen interceptions were brutal and he doesn't even have the best arm in the class. Eason's is still better, though Eason sucks for his own reasons.

Indy didn't want Love.

The "adamant" is damning too. They had no intention of getting Rodgers any help, all along their priority number one this whole off-season was to draft his replacement.

They must really be done with him. That's an expensive middle finger

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What are you thinking if you're Jordan Love? You kinda feel bad for the kid getting dropped into this shitfit between Rodgers and the Packers' brass.

Its going to be a lot for Rodgers to get over the Packers indifference towards competing this year. It'd be one thing if this were somebody else, but Rodgers is one of those "pathological need to win" guys and to just be abandoned like this after going to an NFCCG is going to make him crazy.

Same thing Rodgers went through.

Fuck it, might as well buy in. Hopefully they get Love some weapons today.

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Favre definitely had a different kind of mentality than Rodgers.

Unofrtunately, I think the Pack will still get a good WR in the second

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Michael Pittman would be a nice counter to yesterday’s disappointment

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This was done for all of the wrong reasons.

Nope. That’s the one thing you can’t say about it. He’s following his predecessors and prioritizing the QB position more than everything else combined.

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It was literally done to send a message to Rodgers. I'm not even sure they really believed in the player (I dont know how you can after watching him play), they just wanted to incense Rodgers so they find an excuse to get rid of him.

He’s a fine prospect. Everyone, even his skeptics, admit as much. Overall the draft was definitely a message to Rodgers but that doesn’t mean the Love pick was bad. It makes it more intriguing. Gutekunst is a lifer at this and he’s betting his career on Love. I trust him. It’s the opposite of a desperation message.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PW-lNnYafxI

What would you think if the Bears drafted this?

When you actually watch it the excuse of "no returning starters" or "new coaching staff" seems inadequate. His reads just blow. I cant think of a single quarterback who's made it in the NFL who looked this bad in college.

What has he done to earn that trust?

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Are you under the impression a guy like me hasnt watched the requisite highlights, good and bad, available on him?

I don’t care to even link it. Everyone is free to look up his best highlights and I’m sure a lot of us that even somewhat care have seen them. He has some incredible throws. He has some incredibly shitty throws decision wise and even skill wise.

Sounds like a perfect guy to sit behind a HOFer for two years

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He hasn’t done anything to not earn it. He took over 2 years ago and his drafts have not been bad, he’s a lifer scout who got the big boy chair and he’s basically betting his career on Love. If he’s willing to take that risk I trust him, and I trust the organization to get the most out of Love.

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Im sure the guy who disowned his siblings and parents will gladly do what's best for his NFL team after this giant FU.

He doesn’t need to. Love clearly has the talent, and the time, and great organizational support, to learn and develop behind Rodgers. Rodgers doesn’t need to go out of his way and make it a Disney movie mentor relationship. Just being in that room with Rodgers and being given the time and low expectation to develop your craft will work wonders for Love. If he misses it’s because he wasn’t going to make it anyway and we start a new regime anyway.

If he hits, it’s the 3rd elite QB in the span of four decades where our division rivals have 0 combined.

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But let's get real, he's probably not gonna hit. Not even a little bit.

Nobody knows anything about this shit. He’s got the physical traits and the best possible situation to develop with low expectations and a lifer scout who risked his career in his first GM chance to trade up and draft him.


Overall I’ve talked myself into this draft even more than the average fan would. We got our asses fucking kicked by SF last year. A WR isn’t fixing that. I like Dillon and the guy they took in the 3rd could be an intriguing piece. Gutekunst bet his job on this draft. If he’s wrong we have to start over 2-3 years from now anyway which was always the case. If he’s right we continue to have a 30+ year hold on best QB in the division

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Snacks Harrison is just sitting there and is a perfect piece though. The fact they haven’t signed him means he’s either done or points more towards GB GM incompetence

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Man, every GM bets his job on every draft. You only get so many. Ryan Pace, given an extraordinarily long leash, will finish with six drafts to his name. Had just one of them been better he probably wouldnt be staring down the barrel of five wins and getting fired. So that bit of cope you are clinging to doesn't really hold any water, its not like he's under appreciably more pressure than half the GM's in the league.

I dont think you've really thought through how to beat SF, or at least how to mimic them. I know you love your mediocre front seven and that its pains you to acknowledge this fact, but none of your front seven guys would even see the field if they were on SF. The Bears have regressed so much that yeah, its not outside the realm of possibility that ZD Smith is on balance better than Khalil Mack at this stage of the downslope of his career. Certainly he's better than Robert Quinn's corpse (though I'd probably have rather had Floyd, but whatever...another discussion that).

But SF? No way. They have studs everywhere. They just traded away one for the meanest SOB in this draft, I'd probably rather have Kinlaw than DeForest Buckner just from a strict on-field perspective not even taking into account contract. You are not going to out-49ers the 49ers with your current front seven. Because the strategy to beating the Packers to just run them over.

Now as we saw Mahomes do the best counter to that is to have a high functioning offense that can score quickly. The Packers are one of like four teams in the league that even has the requisite tool to have that kind of offense, but they have saddled him with a truly abysmal group of weapons in this odd attempt to mimic the latest fad in the NFL. Even skipping the obvious problems with Jordan Love, the rest of the draft doesn't make sense.

Probably done tbh. Or he's waiting for the best fit.

Well, you’re wrong about a few things. 1st, Gutekunst has more leash than most due to the franchise he works for, and 2nd, I’m not the one making these moves. It’s not me thinking about how to beat or mimic SF. The Kinlaw/Buckner comment is ridiculous too but doesn’t need addressing.

But yeah this draft was a reaction to those SF games. Clearly. I don’t agree with it but clearly Gutekunst thought GB wasn’t close and decided to build for the future. We can still compete next year thanks to the offseason of the division rivals but this draft is always going to come back to Love.

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This is not even worth discussing, if it weren't for social media this would never even be discussed..let alone beat to death like a dead horse.

Rogers is about done,they drafted his replacement.. that's how football works.. next man up.

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