I stopped watching any NFL football except the Bears(for a while anyway) when Kaep started this crap and Goodell caved. Last season, I didn't watch the Super Bowl let alone the last few Bear's games.

I can't stand introducing political bullshit into sports, especially when I consider it to be unpatriotic bullshit like this is. And believe it or not, most of my friends feel the same way and these are fans of other teams than the Bears. My kids also were football fans and they are sick of the bullshit as are some of their friends. So I don't think this is a generational thing.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Blow me.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

The NFL somehow survived you not watching.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

So what? Of course they are going to survive. It is a league owned by egotistical billionaires. The fact that they pay a dumb dipshit like Goodell all of that money $40M+ is proof that they are stupid assholes.

My point, though, is that the NFL made a stupid business decision in supporting a communist movement of Black Lives Matter and they will not make the bank that they did because of it. Part of it, for sure, is different from their kissing the asses of black militants and that is the shitty product of the game itself.

Hey. If you agree with the political decisions and the product of the NFL and will continue to go to games and buy their product that's just peachy with me. Its almost a free country. I won't go to any games or buy any NFL products anymore and most of my friends won't either. I would bet also that there are a bunch of other people just like me who will do the same.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Well you also defend the Confederacy too.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

is the black national anthem a 2pac song? i humbly suggest this one???

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Nope. I never did "defend the Confederacy". I defended the people who fought for the Confederacy who were accused of being "traitors" by LTG and a few others on this board. Those soldiers were not traitors in my view. No more traitors than were the soldiers who fought against Great Britain. In my view, they were WRONG to fight for the South but that doesn't make them "traitors".

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Hawk can you point me towards your post ripping the Trump 2020 NASCAR? Thanks.

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You did defend it and blamed the North for it happening.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

A CSA view of history. Jefferson Davis would be so proud.

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Be well

GO BEARS!!!

Jefferson Davis didn't commit treason, he just got caught up in the moment. He did the wrong thing. He made an oopsie-doopsie. He led a breakaway government to protect chattel slavery and he shouldn't have done that but that's why pencils have erasers and also we should build statues of him and name big roads next to Washington DC after him.

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The Hawk"

Hey. If you agree with the political decisions and the product of the NFL and will continue to go to games and buy their product that's just peachy with me. Its almost a free country. I won't go to any games or buy any NFL products anymore and most of my friends won't either. I would bet also that there are a bunch of other people just like me who will do the same. [/quote]

The Boilermaker:

Well you also defend the Confederacy too.[/quote]

The Hawk"

Nope. I never did "defend the Confederacy". I defended the people who fought for the Confederacy who were accused of being "traitors" by LTG and a few others on this board. Those soldiers were not traitors in my view. No more traitors than were the soldiers who fought against Great Britain. In my view, they were WRONG to fight for the South but that doesn't make them "traitors[/quote]

Boilermaker:

You did defend it and blamed the North for it happening.[/quote]

The Hawk:

Bullshit. Don't lie. Why do you consistently LIE? I never ever have defended slavery for starters just like I've never said anything racist on this board. The fact that jag-offs accuse me of stuff that I never said or even changed the wording of some of my posts like a few have done is just one of the weaknesses of this board.

You, BTW, are one of the pissants on this board who lies and alters stuff that people actually say. That is a mark of a wimpy loser and you certainly fit that description. Hell, you even called me a liar about my military and collegiate experiences. Why do you continually LIE repeatedly and attack people who you simply do not agree with politically anyway? YOu sure are a weak ninny on this board. Are you the same in real life? What the hell do you do for a living anyway?

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

I never said that ever. I also never said that slavery was okay. I also never said that the South seceding from the union was righteous. Why is it that people like you want to lie about what is said on this board? I said one thing basically and that was disputing the idiotic statements by LTG and a few others that the soldiers who fought for the South were traitors. That is my damned belief. Soldiers take an oath when they sign up to fight and the soldiers of the South took that oath. The soldiers of the North took a very similar oath. I am a former soldier and refuse to see any disgrace in the soldiers who fought under Lee or Grant anymore than those who fought under George Patton or Erwin Rommel.

So save us all your silly and stupid little "oopsie-doopsie" bullshit. Your lame attack on me is misplaced and not relevant to anything that I have said or believe. Perhaps you ought to read what actually happened in the war between the states and how it affected everyday people who fought in that war.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

The Boilermaker:

Well you also defend the Confederacy too.[/quote]

The Hawk"

Nope. I never did "defend the Confederacy". I defended the people who fought for the Confederacy who were accused of being "traitors" by LTG and a few others on this board. Those soldiers were not traitors in my view. No more traitors than were the soldiers who fought against Great Britain. In my view, they were WRONG to fight for the South but that doesn't make them "traitors[/quote]

Boilermaker:

You did defend it and blamed the North for it happening.[/quote]

The Hawk:

Bullshit. Don't lie. Why do you consistently LIE? I never ever have defended slavery for starters just like I've never said anything racist on this board. The fact that jag-offs accuse me of stuff that I never said or even changed the wording of some of my posts like a few have done is just one of the weaknesses of this board.

You, BTW, are one of the pissants on this board who lies and alters stuff that people actually say. That is a mark of a wimpy loser and you certainly fit that description. Hell, you even called me a liar about my military and collegiate experiences. Why do you continually LIE repeatedly and attack people who you simply do not agree with politically anyway? YOu sure are a weak ninny on this board. Are you the same in real life? What the hell do you do for a living anyway?[/quote]
I didn't lie about you blaming the North.

I don't alter posts either. Take your meds.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

The Hawk"

Nope. I never did "defend the Confederacy". I defended the people who fought for the Confederacy who were accused of being "traitors" by LTG and a few others on this board. Those soldiers were not traitors in my view. No more traitors than were the soldiers who fought against Great Britain. In my view, they were WRONG to fight for the South but that doesn't make them "traitors[/quote]

Boilermaker:

You did defend it and blamed the North for it happening.[/quote]

The Hawk:

Bullshit. Don't lie. Why do you consistently LIE? I never ever have defended slavery for starters just like I've never said anything racist on this board. The fact that jag-offs accuse me of stuff that I never said or even changed the wording of some of my posts like a few have done is just one of the weaknesses of this board.

You, BTW, are one of the pissants on this board who lies and alters stuff that people actually say. That is a mark of a wimpy loser and you certainly fit that description. Hell, you even called me a liar about my military and collegiate experiences. Why do you continually LIE repeatedly and attack people who you simply do not agree with politically anyway? YOu sure are a weak ninny on this board. Are you the same in real life? What the hell do you do for a living anyway?[/quote]
I didn't lie about you blaming the North.

I don't alter posts either. Take your meds.[/quote]

You lie and alter stuff that people say regularly. Like the bullshit about your accusation about my defending slavery and other things. People like you are morally bankrupt.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

This is you defending the Confederacy.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

What I said was the truth. I said that the war should not have occurred and was a huge waste in lives and money. It was caused by the difference in the economic wherewithal of the two sides. The South was wrong in their succession and both sides could have worked things out to eliminate slavery via negotiation instead of war. At the time that the South seceded, there were only 10 states in the South and 23 in the North and the South's economy was almost all agricultural. The disparity in political power at that time was greatly different than when the US was originally founded and the South felt outnumbered and economically oppressed. Therefore they objected when pressed by increased levees on their products and pressure which interfered with their economy.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

That is you defending the Confederacy.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

It is in your mind. Puzzle me this, then. If the Southern soldiers were traitors like you and LTG maintain they were, why weren't they executed as such? Even the SOUTH's political leaders and generals were not executed by the North. Why was that? Could it be that the POTUS and the leaders of the North didn't see these people as traitors at all? The truth is that they saw them as a group as having honor and fighting bravely. It is also a fact that all soldiers who fought for the South are considered US VETERANS by the United States government which provided head stones and military honors to the deceased.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Are you asking why the United States government didn't kill up to 1 million people at the end of the Civil War?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

IF they were traitors, why weren't they sentenced and executed? Why not the leaders at least? IF these people were so bad, why were they treated with respect by their enemy instead? My point is this, the Civil War was fought for many reasons. One of the reasons certainly was slavery being required by the cotton industry. But it was also fought because of states rights. The South only had ten states in it. The South had 23. It was important to the South that their rights wouldn't be swamped by the lack of representation that they had in Congress and therefore the importance of states rights to them.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

The leaders probably should have been or at least seen some time at Guantanamo Bay.

Still though, you are defending the Confederacy here to the point where you won't even call them traitors for fighting a war against our country.

Why do you hold them in such high regard? What they did wasn't noble no matter how right they felt they were.

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

No, but I'm sure that his hypocritical post requesting Michael Kopech to shut up about his decision not to play ball this year is still available for all to see.

So : "The Hypocritical Hawk" - "Shut up Kopech, I don't wanna hear about your decision which my politics don't agree with"

(three days later)

"I want the world to know that I, and bigots like me, are boycotting the NFL for political reasons"

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

Should have. Are you familiar with what happened during and after reconstruction in regards to the traitors? They were racist terrorist killing machines.

Lincoln was very careful to ensure that the defeated southern army were welcomed back into the Union and tended to as brothers, as he never felt they should have separated in the first place. He was very specific about that when giving orders immediately after the surrender when tempers were hot and vengeance was being demanded. These days sympathy, love and tolerance towards fellow countrymen like that would never be accepted.

IT is your opinion that they were traitors. The United States government did not consider them as such. A few were executed for atrocities that they took in battle but the great number of them were simply soldiers doing what they signed up for. I hold them in high regard just like I hold all soldiers that sign up to fight for their country. The Southern soldiers had honor in my estimation. I was a soldier and fought against the Vietnamese . And as much as I hated the SOBs , I thought that they were fighting for their own cause. I didn't think that their cause was right but after the war I respected what they did and why.

This is why all of the crap going on right now with the tearing down these monuments and statues is stupid revisionist crap. Trying to go back into time and second guess what people did through the years and see it through a different set of cultural mores and values is wrong. Examining the past is good but only as a way of going forward, not condemning what happened back then.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip

Yet he had a reconstruction plan being worked out to occupy the South and shove the republican party down their throats by force.

This is flat out wrong and willfully ignorant. The overwhelming majority of the statues were erected after "The Birth of a Nation" was released and joyously screened for that bastard Wilson. They were primarily built to support Jim Crow, The Klan and the terrorism being practiced by southerners..

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There are only two examples of infinity: The universe and human stupidity and I'm not sure about the universe.

You can understand why and not celebrate people who declared war on our country. Why don't we have statues in the United States about the Vietnamese soldiers that tried to kill you?

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You do not talk to me like that! I work too hard to deal with this stuff! I work too hard! I'm an important member of the CSFMB! I drive a Dodge Stratus!

Explain your position. I am familiar with the reconstruction. I don't believe that those who fought for the South were traitors and never will. Certainly the South was punished radically after the Civil War and unspeakable crimes were committed to them by a vengeful and greedy political mob. Do you think that was justified? If you do, speak up and justify their actions.

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An Ode to the Texas man who shot an Antifa terrorist:

Oh, he might have went on livin'
But he made one fatal slip
When he tried to match the Ranger
With the big iron on his hip