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GB has no cakewalk against Denver this week. That team is good and Flacco is still dangerous throwing the rock.

The fact that Fangio went for the two-point conversion twice shows how much confidence he has in Joe Cool.

I think Denver will slip into the playoffs somehow as a wild-card behind K.C. They're second best in the West.

Sorry Furious, Raiders are still in the rebuild. Denver can win today, when the should have beaten the Bear.


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This Packers team is so obviously overperforming its no wonder FF is reveling so much in GB holding the Week Two Championship.

Green Bay cant stop the run and aside from maybe Darnell Savage and Jaire Alexander they have no star-level talent. None of their box players are extraordinary in any way, and when the weather gets shitty and the games get sloppy the Packers will find themselves getting pushed four yards off the LOS by the time the third quarter rolls around. They're soft as. Just squeaking by a Bears team that refused to do what it does best then beating Kirk Cousins, who his entire career folds under any sort of pressure, doesn't make the best defense.


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This Packers team is so obviously overperforming its no wonder FF is reveling so much in GB holding the Week Two Championship.

Green Bay cant stop the run and aside from maybe Darnell Savage and Jaire Alexander they have no star-level talent. None of their box players are extraordinary in any way, and when the weather gets shitty and the games get sloppy the Packers will find themselves getting pushed four yards off the LOS by the time the third quarter rolls around. They're soft as. Just squeaking by a Bears team that refused to do what it does best then beating Kirk Cousins, who his entire career folds under any sort of pressure, doesn't make the best defense.

Learn about who Kenny Clark is and then try this post again. This was a big swing and miss.

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This Packers team is so obviously overperforming its no wonder FF is reveling so much in GB holding the Week Two Championship.

Green Bay cant stop the run and aside from maybe Darnell Savage and Jaire Alexander they have no star-level talent. None of their box players are extraordinary in any way, and when the weather gets shitty and the games get sloppy the Packers will find themselves getting pushed four yards off the LOS by the time the third quarter rolls around. They're soft as. Just squeaking by a Bears team that refused to do what it does best then beating Kirk Cousins, who his entire career folds under any sort of pressure, doesn't make the best defense.

Learn about who Kenny Clark is and then try this post again. This was a big swing and miss.


Good-not-great. Typically overrated GB-type player because his few flash plays overshadow him getting blasted off the LOS.

And you know I'm right. You know the Packers stand no real hope of stopping any sort of concerted effort on the ground. Their pass rush is nothing to fear either. They'll excel in September football when everyone wants to loft the ball around and not hit anyone, and even that will soon expire when they face Josh Jacobs (who will bulldoze them) and Mahomes (who will erase all the hype around Jaire Island single-handedly).


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This Packers team is so obviously overperforming its no wonder FF is reveling so much in GB holding the Week Two Championship.

Green Bay cant stop the run and aside from maybe Darnell Savage and Jaire Alexander they have no star-level talent. None of their box players are extraordinary in any way, and when the weather gets shitty and the games get sloppy the Packers will find themselves getting pushed four yards off the LOS by the time the third quarter rolls around. They're soft as. Just squeaking by a Bears team that refused to do what it does best then beating Kirk Cousins, who his entire career folds under any sort of pressure, doesn't make the best defense.

Learn about who Kenny Clark is and then try this post again. This was a big swing and miss.


Good-not-great. Typically overrated GB-type player because his few flash plays overshadow him getting blasted off the LOS.

And you know I'm right. You know the Packers stand no real hope of stopping any sort of concerted effort on the ground. Their pass rush is nothing to fear either. They'll excel in September football when everyone wants to loft the ball around and not hit anyone, and even that will soon expire when they face Josh Jacobs (who will bulldoze them) and Mahomes (who will erase all the hype around Jaire Island single-handedly).

You’re wrong like usual. Their defense has been absolutely dominant outside of one long Cook run.

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Teams are fated to a certain destiny and the Packers destiny is to never finish with an elite defense.


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Teams are fated to a certain destiny and the Packers destiny is to never finish with an elite defense.


How will the Bears be this season?

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Teams are fated to a certain destiny and the Packers destiny is to never finish with an elite defense.

1996 and 2010 disagree with you. 2019 is looking like it may join the list.

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Nas wrote:
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Teams are fated to a certain destiny and the Packers destiny is to never finish with an elite defense.


How will the Bears be this season?

I think we can all agree this year will not be as easy as last year.


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Teams are fated to a certain destiny and the Packers destiny is to never finish with an elite defense.


How will the Bears be this season?

I think we can all agree this year will not be as easy as last year.


Record? Finish?

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Nas wrote:
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Teams are fated to a certain destiny and the Packers destiny is to never finish with an elite defense.


How will the Bears be this season?

I think we can all agree this year will not be as easy as last year.


Record? Finish?

I've really got no idea. I do believe Eddy Piniero saved their season yesterday.


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Antarctica wrote:
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Teams are fated to a certain destiny and the Packers destiny is to never finish with an elite defense.


How will the Bears be this season?

I think we can all agree this year will not be as easy as last year.


Record? Finish?

I've really got no idea. I do believe Eddy Piniero saved their season yesterday.


We need more than that. Go on the record with something. I got them going 13-3 with a SB loss to the best quarterback in the NFL not named Brady.

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 Post subject: Re: Green Bay Packers
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The Packer's front 7 is weak. Even if you indulge FF's delusions about Kenny Clark there's nobody else who's really any good. The Smith's are OK, Blake Martinez is average, the ends are whatever...its just very middling. The Packers signed a bunch of players other teams really didn't want all that badly and they're enjoying a nice run against the likes of Mitchell (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and Kirk Cousins.

They have a couple nice secondary players and maybe Oren Burks will continue to come around but I dont see the potential for greatness at all. They are going to struggle to generate a pass rush against quality opponents. Also their depth is garbage, it doesn't take much for Rashan Gary or Tramon Williams to see meaningful playing time and at that point even shitty offenses will be able to exploit them with the ease.


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 Post subject: Re: Green Bay Packers
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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
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Nas wrote:
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Teams are fated to a certain destiny and the Packers destiny is to never finish with an elite defense.


How will the Bears be this season?

I think we can all agree this year will not be as easy as last year.


Record? Finish?

I've really got no idea. I do believe Eddy Piniero saved their season yesterday.


We need more than that. Go on the record with something. I got them going 13-3 with a SB loss to the best quarterback in the NFL not named Brady.

I'll say 10-6 because I think they are uniquely built to crush the Cowboys and the Eagles are kind of falling apart.


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 Post subject: Re: Green Bay Packers
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The Packer's front 7 is weak. Even if you indulge FF's delusions about Kenny Clark there's nobody else who's really any good. The Smith's are OK, Blake Martinez is average, the ends are whatever...its just very middling. The Packers signed a bunch of players other teams really didn't want all that badly and they're enjoying a nice run against the likes of Mitchell (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and Kirk Cousins.

They have a couple nice secondary players and maybe Oren Burks will continue to come around but I dont see the potential for greatness at all. They are going to struggle to generate a pass rush against quality opponents. Also their depth is garbage, it doesn't take much for Rashan Gary or Tramon Williams to see meaningful playing time and at that point even shitty offenses will be able to exploit them with the ease.

The Smiths are ok :lol:

Are you just willfully trying to have a bad take about every player? It’s ok to admit you don’t know anything about their defense because this is pretty bad.

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The Packer's front 7 is weak. Even if you indulge FF's delusions about Kenny Clark there's nobody else who's really any good. The Smith's are OK, Blake Martinez is average, the ends are whatever...its just very middling. The Packers signed a bunch of players other teams really didn't want all that badly and they're enjoying a nice run against the likes of Mitchell (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and Kirk Cousins.

They have a couple nice secondary players and maybe Oren Burks will continue to come around but I dont see the potential for greatness at all. They are going to struggle to generate a pass rush against quality opponents. Also their depth is garbage, it doesn't take much for Rashan Gary or Tramon Williams to see meaningful playing time and at that point even shitty offenses will be able to exploit them with the ease.

Average/middling in the front 7 is a good defense when you add studly secondary. Patriots been using that formula recently.

Tramon Williams has been playing meaningful snaps. He's the man


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The Packer's front 7 is weak. Even if you indulge FF's delusions about Kenny Clark there's nobody else who's really any good. The Smith's are OK, Blake Martinez is average, the ends are whatever...its just very middling. The Packers signed a bunch of players other teams really didn't want all that badly and they're enjoying a nice run against the likes of Mitchell (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky and Kirk Cousins.

They have a couple nice secondary players and maybe Oren Burks will continue to come around but I dont see the potential for greatness at all. They are going to struggle to generate a pass rush against quality opponents. Also their depth is garbage, it doesn't take much for Rashan Gary or Tramon Williams to see meaningful playing time and at that point even shitty offenses will be able to exploit them with the ease.

Average/middling in the front 7 is a good defense when you add studly secondary. Patriots been using that formula recently.

Tramon Williams has been playing meaningful snaps. He's the man

They just put Raven Greene o IR...that doesn’t help.

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If you were to re-draft the 2019 draft right now I'm not sure Rashan Gary would be selected before the fifth round.


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If you were to re-draft the 2019 draft right now I'm not sure Rashan Gary would be selected before the fifth round.

I’m not entirely sold on him but to be fair I think they view him as a guy with the potential to be a star down the line, not so much this year.

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If you were to re-draft the 2019 draft right now I'm not sure Rashan Gary would be selected before the fifth round.

I’m not entirely sold on him but to be fair I think they view him as a guy with the potential to be a star down the line, not so much this year.

He'll probably suck. But Savage is a stud. 1 for 2 is fine.


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Fitzpatrick to the Stiller for a 1st :shock:

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It’s unbelievable that Kenny Clark is still only 23 years old (turns 24 on Oct. 4) and his play has continued to ascend in his fourth season. Once viewed primarily as a run stopper, Clark is proving he can be much more and has pushed his name into the conversation for the most dominant interior defensive tackle in the NFL – in both the running and passing game.

Clark has earned playing time on third-down passing situations, opportunities he wasn’t getting early in his career:

Third-down snap count

2016: 34 of 262 (13.0 percent)

2017: 98 of 220 (44.5 percent)

2018: 155 of 228 (68.0 percent)

2019: 22 of 28 (78.6 percent)

And with the increased participation comes increased production. Clark already has two sacks in 2019, but his impact is much greater when you look at the pressure he’s putting on opposing QBs. He had six QB pressures in Week 1 against Chicago and another seven on Sunday vs. the Vikings. Clark is currently the second-highest graded interior defensive tackle in the NFL, according to Pro Football Focus.


Goddamn it feels good to have a defense again.

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It’s unbelievable that Kenny Clark is still only 23 years old (turns 24 on Oct. 4) and his play has continued to ascend in his fourth season. Once viewed primarily as a run stopper, Clark is proving he can be much more and has pushed his name into the conversation for the most dominant interior defensive tackle in the NFL – in both the running and passing game.

Clark has earned playing time on third-down passing situations, opportunities he wasn’t getting early in his career:

Third-down snap count

2016: 34 of 262 (13.0 percent)

2017: 98 of 220 (44.5 percent)

2018: 155 of 228 (68.0 percent)

2019: 22 of 28 (78.6 percent)

And with the increased participation comes increased production. Clark already has two sacks in 2019, but his impact is much greater when you look at the pressure he’s putting on opposing QBs. He had six QB pressures in Week 1 against Chicago and another seven on Sunday vs. the Vikings. Clark is currently the second-highest graded interior defensive tackle in the NFL, according to Pro Football Focus.


Goddamn it feels good to have a defense again.

Good to see it only took until the 5th player from UCLA to finally work for the Packers. Thanks Ted. :roll:


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Worth the wait for Aaron Donald Lite.

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It’s unbelievable that Kenny Clark is still only 23 years old (turns 24 on Oct. 4) and his play has continued to ascend in his fourth season. Once viewed primarily as a run stopper, Clark is proving he can be much more and has pushed his name into the conversation for the most dominant interior defensive tackle in the NFL – in both the running and passing game.

Clark has earned playing time on third-down passing situations, opportunities he wasn’t getting early in his career:

Third-down snap count

2016: 34 of 262 (13.0 percent)

2017: 98 of 220 (44.5 percent)

2018: 155 of 228 (68.0 percent)

2019: 22 of 28 (78.6 percent)

And with the increased participation comes increased production. Clark already has two sacks in 2019, but his impact is much greater when you look at the pressure he’s putting on opposing QBs. He had six QB pressures in Week 1 against Chicago and another seven on Sunday vs. the Vikings. Clark is currently the second-highest graded interior defensive tackle in the NFL, according to Pro Football Focus.


Goddamn it feels good to have a defense again.

Wait, I thought the board’s football guru stated they lack star talent and that none of the box players were extraordinary. :scratch:

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The fact that he sees a higher percentage of snaps because the Packers have gradually hemorrhaged all their other viable interior defensive linemen over the last three years doesn't mean he's elite or even that great.

He oscillates between good or adequate. He looks fantastic when nobody tries to block him, you'll notice that's a running theme with his highlights.


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Will get thoroughly exposed when teams run at him.

:lol: :lol:

He’s a run defender by nature you dope. He’s become an elite player by also adding a pass rushing repertoire

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