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Author:  Don Tiny [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:10 pm ]
Post subject:  Team Records Over The Last Decade
Per http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/gallery/every-nfl-teams-10-year-record-ranked-32-1-010417

32 Rams (46-113-1)

31 Browns (48-112)

30 Jaguars (53-107)

29 Raiders (60-100)

28 Buccaneers (63-97)

27 Lions (63-97)

26 Redskins (66-93-1)

25 Bills (66-94)

24 Dolphins (71-89)

23 Chiefs (72-88)

22 Titans (73-87)

21 Jets (74-86)

20 Da Bears (74-86)

19 49ers (77-82-1)

18 Vikings (80-79-1)

17 Texans (82-78)

16 Panthers (82-77-1)

15 Chargers (83-77)

14 Bengals (83-74-3)

13 Eagles (84-75-1)

12 Cardinals (86-73-1)

11 Giants (88-72)

10 Seahawks (89-70-1)

9 Falcons (89-71)

8 Ravens (90-70)

7 Saints (91-69)

6 Cowboys (92-68)

5 Broncos (94-66)

4 Colts (100-60)

3 Steelers (103-57)

2 Packers (106-53-1)

1 Patriots (126-34)
Author:  leashyourkids [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 12:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
So, basically every quarterback in the NFL, ranked best to worst.
Author:  Brick [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:01 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
leashyourkids wrote:
So, basically every quarterback in the NFL, ranked best to worst.
Frank says don't draft a quarterback if you have 4 or 5 players ahead of him though. The position isn't that important!
Author:  ToxicMasculinity [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 1:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
This list shows what a fat piece of butter sweating shit Mike McCarthy is. Inherits a future HOF QB and makes just one Super Bowl win with some embarrassing losses. Fuck Mike McCarthy
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
So, basically every quarterback in the NFL, ranked best to worst.
Frank says don't draft a quarterback if you have 4 or 5 players ahead of him though. The position isn't that important!

Please find where I said that a "QB isnt important"
Author:  jimmypasta [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
So, basically every quarterback in the NFL, ranked best to worst.
Frank says don't draft a quarterback if you have 4 or 5 players ahead of him though. The position isn't that important!

Please find where I said that a "QB isnt important"


Wasn't important to the last Bears appearance in the SB.
Author:  badrogue17 [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 2:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
jimmypasta wrote:
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
So, basically every quarterback in the NFL, ranked best to worst.
Frank says don't draft a quarterback if you have 4 or 5 players ahead of him though. The position isn't that important!

Please find where I said that a "QB isnt important"


Wasn't important to the last Bears appearance in the SB.

Just imagine how much better McMahon would've been if he had Cutlers rocket arm.
Author:  Brick [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
So, basically every quarterback in the NFL, ranked best to worst.
Frank says don't draft a quarterback if you have 4 or 5 players ahead of him though. The position isn't that important!

Please find where I said that a "QB isnt important"
You didn't quote me right.

You said you shouldn't draft a qb if you have 4 or 5 players ahead of them. That means you don't find the position to be important enough to give up a very minor amount of spots to fill the position.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:11 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
Unbelievable. You didn't quote me right initially!

Dont put words into my mouth, or tell me what you think I meant.
Author:  Brick [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Unbelievable. You didn't quote me right initially!

Dont put words into my mouth, or tell me what you think I meant.
What I said was accurate. The fact that you read it wrong the first time doesn't change that.

How important can the position of quarterback be if you aren't willing to draft a player 4 picks higher than you would normally?
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
What you said was not accurate. At all. Thats the end of it.
Author:  Brick [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:23 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
What you said was not accurate. At all. Thats the end of it.

Ok. Let's do this.
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
So, basically every quarterback in the NFL, ranked best to worst.
Frank says don't draft a quarterback if you have 4 or 5 players ahead of him though. The position isn't that important!

Please find where I said that a "QB isnt important"


Frank Coztansa wrote:
Its incredibly dumb if you have 4 or 5 players ranked higher than that QB.

Frank Coztansa wrote:
Take the best player available. If thats a QB, great. If not, great. You dont draft a QB first just because you need one. The Bears need MANY other positions as well.


You literally said the position of quarterback is not important enough to draft a qb slightly higher than you would normally.

So, "Frank says don't draft a quarterback if you have 4 or 5 players ahead of him though. " is basically a direct quote. "The position isn't that important!" is taking your thought that you wouldn't even draft a quarterback with the third pick if you thought they were only worthy of the fourth pick. To you, the quarterback position is not important enough to overdraft by 1 spot!

So, what exactly wasn't accurate? To me, the only inaccuracy seems to be how you read what I said.
Author:  Darkside [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
Frank didn't say the quarterback isn't important.
Author:  Douchebag [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:38 pm ]
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Frank is being taken to the woodshed here.
Author:  Brick [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
Darkside wrote:
Frank didn't say the quarterback isn't important.
:lol:
Author:  Darkside [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Frank didn't say the quarterback isn't important.
:lol:

You're goofy.
Author:  Brick [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
Darkside wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Darkside wrote:
Frank didn't say the quarterback isn't important.
:lol:

You're goofy.
I thought you were making a joke.
Author:  Darkside [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
I don't get how you're not getting what he's saying.
Author:  Brick [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
Darkside wrote:
I don't get how you're not getting what he's saying.
I never said that Frank said the quarterback isn't important.

It's just not important enough to Frank to pick a quarterback over the "best player available".
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:59 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
To me, the only inaccuracy seems to be how I attributed something to you that you never said. I'm sorry.
Cool.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:00 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Darkside wrote:
I don't get how you're not getting what he's saying.
I never said that Frank said the quarterback isn't important.


Boilermaker Rick wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
So, basically every quarterback in the NFL, ranked best to worst.
Frank says don't draft a quarterback if you have 4 or 5 players ahead of him though. The position isn't that important!
Author:  Darkside [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:04 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Darkside wrote:
I don't get how you're not getting what he's saying.
I never said that Frank said the quarterback isn't important.

It's just not important enough to Frank to pick a quarterback over the "best player available".

Image
Author:  Brick [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Darkside wrote:
I don't get how you're not getting what he's saying.
I never said that Frank said the quarterback isn't important.


Boilermaker Rick wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
So, basically every quarterback in the NFL, ranked best to worst.
Frank says don't draft a quarterback if you have 4 or 5 players ahead of him though. The position isn't that important!
Do you understand what "The position isn't that important!" means? I'm not trying to be a dick but those are different things.

Answer this question: If you were the GM of the Bears, and you had the third pick, and you had a quarterback rated as the fourth best player in the draft, would you draft the quarterback? Would you be willing to draft a pick one spot higher than you rate them or would you go with the "best player available"?
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
Of course you're trying to be a dick. That and multi page arguments is your thing here.
Author:  Brick [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Of course you're trying to be a dick. That and multi page arguments is your thing here.
So what is the answer to the question?
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:44 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
Nope, you first;
Frank Coztansa wrote:

Please find where I said that a "QB isnt important"
Author:  Brick [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:46 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
Frank Coztansa wrote:
Nope, you first;
Frank Coztansa wrote:

Please find where I said that a "QB isnt important"
As I pointed out previously, that is not what I said you said. That is answer to your question.

Now go ahead and answer.
Author:  lipidquadcab [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:49 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
So, basically every quarterback in the NFL, ranked best to worst.
Frank says don't draft a quarterback if you have 4 or 5 players ahead of him though. The position isn't that important!

Not sure this is the thread I would want to make this argument in, seeing as how the team with the worst record over the last decade has used two number ones to draft a QB...
Author:  Brick [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
lipidquadcab wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
So, basically every quarterback in the NFL, ranked best to worst.
Frank says don't draft a quarterback if you have 4 or 5 players ahead of him though. The position isn't that important!

Not sure this is the thread I would want to make this argument in, seeing as how the team with the worst record over the last decade has used two number ones to draft a QB...
What argument are you making?
Author:  lipidquadcab [ Thu Jan 05, 2017 4:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Team Records Over The Last Decade
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
lipidquadcab wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
leashyourkids wrote:
So, basically every quarterback in the NFL, ranked best to worst.
Frank says don't draft a quarterback if you have 4 or 5 players ahead of him though. The position isn't that important!

Not sure this is the thread I would want to make this argument in, seeing as how the team with the worst record over the last decade has used two number ones to draft a QB...
What argument are you making?

That drafting a QB, even if you need one, with such a high pick might not make sense if your team has a bunch of other holes, especially when you aren't talking about said QB being a generational talent.
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