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Author:  conns7901 [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:31 am ]
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This could be interesting for the players if it is run well.

Could this pro football league help fix a nagging NFL draft problem?


Mike Shanahan coached college or pro football for 37 seasons, including head stints in Oakland, Washington and Denver, where he won two Super Bowls.

Ed McCaffrey played 13 seasons in the NFL, winning three Super Bowls, before becoming a prominent football father – one son, Christian, is turning pro out of Stanford as another, Dylan, is headed to Michigan.

Donald Yee is in his 29th year as a sports agent, a job where he has represented NFL coaches and players ranging from future Hall of Famer Tom Brady to guys looking to stick with a practice squad.
Mike Shanahan's coaching resume includes three head coaching gigs and two Super Bowl titles.

From three different backgrounds came one unifying realization – there is a gap in the current system both for certain players to reach the NFL as well as how the NFL can identify talent.

Now they are about to do something about it.

The three are spearheading Pacific Pro Football, which is set to begin play in the summer of 2018. This is a new professional league, yet it isn’t looking to compete with the NFL – a la the now-deceased USFL or XFL.

It is instead, a right-sized developmental option for young players. It has the potential to change the route to the NFL for many who neither want, nor find worth, in the current NCAA system. And it will give the NFL, which is often frustrated at the style of play and the secrecy of the college ranks, a place with a preferable set-up for training and identifying potential draft picks.

“The need is there from both the players and the NFL,” Yee told Yahoo Sports. “This is neither the NFL nor the NCAA. It’s a supplement to the other products and we are convinced there is a market for this.”

Here are the basics:

• A four-team league based in Southern California. Each 50-player team will be owned/employed by the league, not individuals.

• Players can participate only in their first four years out of high school. This is an alternative to college. While the NFL still requires a draft-eligible prospect to be three years removed from his final year of high school, Pac Pro will allow players to join right out of high school, or after a year or two at a major college, junior college or whatever.

• Total compensation is about $50,000 per season. Each player will be paid equally. There is also full worker’s comp and, among other things, a tuition reimbursement at a community college should a player choose to use it in the offseason.

• Six regular-season games and two rounds of playoffs, so teams will play seven to eight games.

• The season runs each Sunday in July and August, finishing before the start of the opening of the NFL and college campaigns.

• Each team will have eight full-time coaches with pro and college experience, plus about eight part-time assistant coaches.

• Play will be pro-style, and based on development and evaluation. For instance, there will be no spread offenses. Quarterbacks will take snaps under center, need to call plays in the huddle and identify defenses at the line of scrimmage. There will be a premium put on one-on-one plays to get viable tape. For example, perhaps rules that prohibit crossing routes for receivers.

• Every player will play. While games will be competitive, with small rosters and brief seasons there will be snaps and opportunities for everyone, particularly in practice. No one is getting buried on a depth chart or losing a season of teaching while residing in a coach’s doghouse.

“Pro football is a specialized game,” Shanahan said. “It demands precise techniques and a certain mental approach.”
Author:  Brick [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:35 am ]
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$50,000. :lol:
Author:  312player [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:46 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
$50,000. :lol:



It's only 8 games, workers comp and community college reimbursement.
Author:  Brick [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:47 am ]
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312player wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
$50,000. :lol:



It's only 8 games, workers comp and community college reimbursement.
These guys make colleges millions!
Author:  conns7901 [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:48 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
312player wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
$50,000. :lol:



It's only 8 games, workers comp and community college reimbursement.
These guys make colleges millions!


Which has nothing to do with the point of the league.
Author:  Brick [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:50 am ]
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conns7901 wrote:
Which has nothing to do with the point of the league.
I hope this league succeeds. It does show the true value of the players.
Author:  Douchebag [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 11:53 am ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
$50,000. :lol:

NBA D-League players make like half of that.
Author:  312player [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:15 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
312player wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
$50,000. :lol:



It's only 8 games, workers comp and community college reimbursement.
These guys make colleges millions!




Yes, that's why they should be paid. In this system they will work less, earn more and have the ability to do endorsement deals.
Author:  Brick [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:21 pm ]
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312player wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
312player wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
$50,000. :lol:



It's only 8 games, workers comp and community college reimbursement.
These guys make colleges millions!




Yes, that's why they should be paid. In this system they will work less, earn more and have the ability to do endorsement deals.
Why isn't this league paying millions?
Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:27 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
312player wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
312player wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
$50,000. :lol:



It's only 8 games, workers comp and community college reimbursement.
These guys make colleges millions!




Yes, that's why they should be paid. In this system they will work less, earn more and have the ability to do endorsement deals.
Why isn't this league paying millions?


Probably because this league doesn't make much $ and won't make much $.
Author:  312player [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:30 pm ]
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It's a start up, privately funded and could very likely be belly up in 2 or 3 years. If they land some talent and developed a high % of them into the NFL, the money and interest will be there to up their pay. IMO it's a good idea, I think the coaching will be better than college and you get paid, have insurance and it's only part time, you can go to community college for free in the off season.
Author:  Brick [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:32 pm ]
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Looks like you guys are answering the question well!

I've been saying the same things for years.
Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:38 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Looks like you guys are answering the question well!

I've been saying the same things for years.

Then why do you sound like the only one in the thread objecting to the idea?
Author:  TurdFerguson [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:40 pm ]
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So could an undrafted college Junior sign up for the league to his resume and try to catch on at a training camp?

Seems like a good idea, wonder if they will create a posting fee the NFL would pay to them to acquire their player.
Author:  Brick [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 12:42 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Looks like you guys are answering the question well!

I've been saying the same things for years.

Then why do you sound like the only one in the thread objecting to the idea?
Where did I object to it?

I think it is a great case study on the standard things people always say about college sports and how much the athletes get screwed. They are going to give 200 players 50,000 dollars a year and may very well go out of business. That isn't much.
Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:07 pm ]
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College co eds do not drop their knickers for developmental league players
Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:11 pm ]
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What happens when some kid joins this league, busts out in one year and ends up with both no pro prospects or college eligibility?
Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:13 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
What happens when some kid joins this league, busts out in one year and ends up with both no pro prospects or college eligibility?

He goes and gets a regular fuckin job like the rest of us.
Author:  Hatchetman [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:15 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
What happens when some kid joins this league, busts out in one year and ends up with both no pro prospects or college eligibility?

He goes and gets a regular fuckin job like the rest of us.


WAAAHH NOT FAIR!!
Author:  Brick [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:21 pm ]
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Quote:
Play will be pro-style, and based on development and evaluation. For instance, there will be no spread offenses. Quarterbacks will take snaps under center, need to call plays in the huddle and identify defenses at the line of scrimmage. There will be a premium put on one-on-one plays to get viable tape. For example, perhaps rules that prohibit crossing routes for receivers.

That doesn't sound like a very interesting game to watch.
Author:  Curious Hair [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:37 pm ]
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The dustbin of sports history is overflowing with football leagues like this. The only thing I took from this is that Mike Shanahan's NFL career is officially finished. Denny Green and Marty Schottenheimer wound up their careers in these bullshit fly-by-night four-team leagues, too.
Author:  good dolphin [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:53 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
What happens when some kid joins this league, busts out in one year and ends up with both no pro prospects or college eligibility?

He goes and gets a regular fuckin job like the rest of us.


well, you sold me on this league
Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 2:58 pm ]
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:lol:

What did you expect for an answer? Maybe they work with the ncaa and let em go back but I doubt it. Either way it shouldn't really affect how you view the league.
Author:  conns7901 [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Minor League Alternative
FavreFan wrote:
:lol:

What did you expect for an answer? Maybe they work with the ncaa and let em go back but I doubt it. Either way it shouldn't really affect how you view the league.


If you had the grades or any interest in attending college you wouldn't be able to be in this league.
Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:08 pm ]
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conns7901 wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
:lol:

What did you expect for an answer? Maybe they work with the ncaa and let em go back but I doubt it. Either way it shouldn't really affect how you view the league.


If you had the grades or any interest in attending college you wouldn't be able to be in this league.

Huh? Then why are they offering tuition reimbursement?
Author:  conns7901 [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:13 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Minor League Alternative
FavreFan wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
:lol:

What did you expect for an answer? Maybe they work with the ncaa and let em go back but I doubt it. Either way it shouldn't really affect how you view the league.


If you had the grades or any interest in attending college you wouldn't be able to be in this league.

Huh? Then why are they offering tuition reimbursement?


They are for Junior College.
Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:17 pm ]
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conns7901 wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
:lol:

What did you expect for an answer? Maybe they work with the ncaa and let em go back but I doubt it. Either way it shouldn't really affect how you view the league.


If you had the grades or any interest in attending college you wouldn't be able to be in this league.

Huh? Then why are they offering tuition reimbursement?


They are for Junior College.

Right. And I would guess there will be players who want to get four year degrees. The league runs July through August. I don't see the issue.
Author:  Brick [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:18 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
:lol:

What did you expect for an answer? Maybe they work with the ncaa and let em go back but I doubt it. Either way it shouldn't really affect how you view the league.


If you had the grades or any interest in attending college you wouldn't be able to be in this league.

Huh? Then why are they offering tuition reimbursement?
They are doing it because it sounds good.
Author:  FavreFan [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:20 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
conns7901 wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
:lol:

What did you expect for an answer? Maybe they work with the ncaa and let em go back but I doubt it. Either way it shouldn't really affect how you view the league.


If you had the grades or any interest in attending college you wouldn't be able to be in this league.

Huh? Then why are they offering tuition reimbursement?
They are doing it because it sounds good.

Sure, ok. That's still not really answering my question as to why players won't be able to go to college if they do this.
Author:  Brick [ Wed Jan 11, 2017 4:21 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Sure, ok. That's still not really answering my question as to why players won't be able to go to college if they do this.
You can't be a professional and play NCAA football. Accepting that money would make them a professional.
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