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After watching a few games yesterday, the sport is in trouble.

It really is a testament to how great the sport is itself that people are still tuning in in record numbers despite the league doing everything within it's power to make the sport less watchable and worse.

This will go away and the NFL can tell the next generation of scrambled brains that they tried but the head getting injured is required to stop a screen pass.

I don't understand why they can't just have a waiver acknowledging that the players are playing a damaging game and divert some money to future care for brain issues.

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

I'm not sure it's that simple. Aaron Hernandez, a murderer, had the worst case of CTE ever discovered for his age. Erik Kramer, ex-QB, was throwing some heavy shit through the air at his wife.

Nardi wrote:

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

I'm not sure it's that simple. Aaron Hernandez, a murderer, had the worst case of CTE ever discovered for his age. Erik Kramer, ex-QB, was throwing some heavy shit through the air at his wife.

I don't really think those are the issues. Hernandez has a clear history prior to ever playing in the NFL. Kramer seems to be dealing with a lot of issues and clearly some of them come from his football history.

The biggest issue before was that they weren't paying for anything caused by their work. The easy fix seems to be build that in as part of the business model.

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Just spit balling but the waiver is not going to work because some lawyer said the next wave of suits will get around it.

It really is a testament to how great Gambling and Fantasy football are that people are still tuning in in record numbers despite the league doing everything within it's power to make the sport less watchable and worse.

FavreFan wrote:

Fixed.

The NFL is absolutely becoming more and more unwatchable.

Michael Mulvihill
@mulvihill79

In 2017 the NFL alone accounted for 71 of the year's 100 most-watched telecasts.

In 2007 that figure was 22 of 100.

11:54 AM - 20 Aug 2018

Frank Coztansa wrote:

The NFL is absolutely becoming more and more unwatchable.

Doesn't seem like it.

https://twitter.com/mulvihill79/status/ ... 6874395648

Quote:

Michael Mulvihill
@mulvihill79

In 2017 the NFL alone accounted for 71 of the year's 100 most-watched telecasts.

In 2007 that figure was 22 of 100.

11:54 AM - 20 Aug 2018

FavreFan wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

The NFL is absolutely becoming more and more unwatchable.

Doesn't seem like it.

https://twitter.com/mulvihill79/status/ ... 6874395648

Quote:

Michael Mulvihill
@mulvihill79

In 2017 the NFL alone accounted for 71 of the year's 100 most-watched telecasts.

In 2007 that figure was 22 of 100.

11:54 AM - 20 Aug 2018

And what has exploded in popularity since 2007? Gambling and Fantasy Football.

I'm glad you agree with me.

That figure FF cited has more to do with what else is on TV. Baseball? It's all on the internet now,and has been for some time. Basketball is the same. Hockey idk.

What else is there to watch? All the scripted content you'd ever want can be streamed too. TV news is for geriatrics and Baby Mac. Nobody has any sort of reliably interesting programming to put out. NFL is the only time I ever watch.

After watching a few games yesterday, the sport is in trouble.

Polecat666 wrote:

After watching a few games yesterday, the sport is in trouble.

Yup. The NFL can't stop shooting itself in it's own dick. Richard Sherman is right:

Author:	Dignified Rube [ Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:20 am ]
Post subject:	NFL Helmet Rule
This was something the NFL lawyers dreamed up to shield the league from liability from CTE lawsuits, etc. It's unavoidable that defenders are going to have to lead with the helmet when they dive for tackles or tackle guys low, like what that Broncos player did with Shaheen last night, so during the course of the season most players will be flagged for it. And when there is a head injury or a CTE case that emerges years from now, the NFL lawyers can go back to the tape to show that the player in question did something illegal with their tackling and then claim they caused their own injury. Basically, the players are trapped by the rule as long as they play and will have no recourse against the league in the future. It's a bad state of affairs for players. The players union should never have agreed to the rule in the first place.

Author:	Nardi [ Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:26 am ]
Post subject:	Re: NFL Helmet Rule
Is this the first step of the slow death of the game of football? Will it die like boxing or maybe become some sort of hybrid like MMA?

Author:	Polecat666 [ Sun Aug 19, 2018 1:08 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: NFL Helmet Rule
After watching a few games yesterday, the sport is in trouble.

Author:	FavreFan [ Sun Aug 19, 2018 8:07 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: NFL Helmet Rule
Polecat666 wrote: After watching a few games yesterday, the sport is in trouble. Yup. The NFL can't stop shooting itself in it's own dick. Richard Sherman is right: It really is a testament to how great the sport is itself that people are still tuning in in record numbers despite the league doing everything within it's power to make the sport less watchable and worse.

Author:	312player [ Sun Aug 19, 2018 9:56 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: NFL Helmet Rule
The game has gotten steadily worse for 15 years, Goodell is the worst thing to happen to a major sport since Dana White or Selig. This rule is garbage..the game is straddling the line of unwatchable.

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Author:	America [ Sun Aug 19, 2018 10:41 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: NFL Helmet Rule
FavreFan wrote: It really is a testament to how great the sport is itself that people are still tuning in in record numbers despite the league doing everything within it's power to make the sport less watchable and worse. They dont get it. They think people give a shit about the head injury stuff. WE DONT ITS NOT 2014 ANYMORE JEWS ARE TRYING TO GENOCIDE WHITES. FOOTBALL PROBLEMS ARE NOT REAL problems

Author:	Brick [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 5:49 am ]
Post subject:	Re: NFL Helmet Rule
This will go away and the NFL can tell the next generation of scrambled brains that they tried but the head getting injured is required to stop a screen pass. I don't understand why they can't just have a waiver acknowledging that the players are playing a damaging game and divert some money to future care for brain issues.

Author:	pittmike [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:26 am ]
Post subject:	Re: NFL Helmet Rule
Boilermaker Rick wrote: This will go away and the NFL can tell the next generation of scrambled brains that they tried but the head getting injured is required to stop a screen pass. I don't understand why they can't just have a waiver acknowledging that the players are playing a damaging game and divert some money to future care for brain issues. Just spit balling but the waiver is not going to work because some lawyer said the next wave of suits will get around it.

Author:	Nardi [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 7:31 am ]
Post subject:	Re: NFL Helmet Rule
Boilermaker Rick wrote: This will go away and the NFL can tell the next generation of scrambled brains that they tried but the head getting injured is required to stop a screen pass. I don't understand why they can't just have a waiver acknowledging that the players are playing a damaging game and divert some money to future care for brain issues. I'm not sure it's that simple. Aaron Hernandez, a murderer, had the worst case of CTE ever discovered for his age. Erik Kramer, ex-QB, was throwing some heavy shit through the air at his wife.

Author:	Brick [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:07 am ]
Post subject:	Re: NFL Helmet Rule
Nardi wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: This will go away and the NFL can tell the next generation of scrambled brains that they tried but the head getting injured is required to stop a screen pass. I don't understand why they can't just have a waiver acknowledging that the players are playing a damaging game and divert some money to future care for brain issues. I'm not sure it's that simple. Aaron Hernandez, a murderer, had the worst case of CTE ever discovered for his age. Erik Kramer, ex-QB, was throwing some heavy shit through the air at his wife. I don't really think those are the issues. Hernandez has a clear history prior to ever playing in the NFL. Kramer seems to be dealing with a lot of issues and clearly some of them come from his football history. The biggest issue before was that they weren't paying for anything caused by their work. The easy fix seems to be build that in as part of the business model.

Author:	Nardi [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:14 am ]
Post subject:	Re: NFL Helmet Rule
Boilermaker Rick wrote: Nardi wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: This will go away and the NFL can tell the next generation of scrambled brains that they tried but the head getting injured is required to stop a screen pass. I don't understand why they can't just have a waiver acknowledging that the players are playing a damaging game and divert some money to future care for brain issues. I'm not sure it's that simple. Aaron Hernandez, a murderer, had the worst case of CTE ever discovered for his age. Erik Kramer, ex-QB, was throwing some heavy shit through the air at his wife. I don't really think those are the issues. Hernandez has a clear history prior to ever playing in the NFL. Kramer seems to be dealing with a lot of issues and clearly some of them come from his football history. The biggest issue before was that they weren't paying for anything caused by their work. The easy fix seems to be build that in as part of the business model. It's the infancy of research into CTE. And it's going to occur to a lawyer to sue the NFL for criminal violent behavior. After all, a player's job is to be violent.

Author:	Brick [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:17 am ]
Post subject:	Re: NFL Helmet Rule
pittmike wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: This will go away and the NFL can tell the next generation of scrambled brains that they tried but the head getting injured is required to stop a screen pass. I don't understand why they can't just have a waiver acknowledging that the players are playing a damaging game and divert some money to future care for brain issues. Just spit balling but the waiver is not going to work because some lawyer said the next wave of suits will get around it. From what I understand, you can't have them sign a waiver and say "Football is dangerous and your medical issues caused by it are your responsibility" but you can have an agreement to pay for the medical care resulting from football. It's kind of like how football players can't sue the NFL because they got their leg ripped to shreds and almost amputated. The problem before was that the NFL pretended that football wasn't bad for your brain. I think ultimately they don't want to to admit that football is horrible for your brain until the last possible second kind of like the tobacco companies who had to be forced in the courts to fund advertising campaigns about how terrible they are.

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:33 am ]
Post subject:	Re: NFL Helmet Rule
FavreFan wrote: It really is a testament to how great Gambling and Fantasy football are that people are still tuning in in record numbers despite the league doing everything within it's power to make the sport less watchable and worse. Fixed.

Author:	America [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 8:37 am ]
Post subject:	Re: NFL Helmet Rule
Whoever had the idea of adding more lawyers is probably on the right track.

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Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 9:48 am ]
Post subject:	Re: NFL Helmet Rule
Frank Coztansa wrote: FavreFan wrote: It really is a testament to how great Gambling and Fantasy football are that people are still tuning in in record numbers despite the league doing everything within it's power to make the sport less watchable and worse. Fixed. My statement didn't need fixing. I'm sorry you can't enjoy the NFL without gambling and fantasy attached,

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 10:09 am ]
Post subject:	Re: NFL Helmet Rule
I don't gamble (much), and I don't do fantasy. MANY do, however, and that is likely a big reason as to why ratings are the way they are. The NFL is absolutely becoming more and more unwatchable.

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:25 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: NFL Helmet Rule
Frank Coztansa wrote: The NFL is absolutely becoming more and more unwatchable. Doesn't seem like it. https://twitter.com/mulvihill79/status/ ... 6874395648 Quote: Michael Mulvihill @mulvihill79 In 2017 the NFL alone accounted for 71 of the year's 100 most-watched telecasts. In 2007 that figure was 22 of 100. 11:54 AM - 20 Aug 2018

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:34 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: NFL Helmet Rule
FavreFan wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: The NFL is absolutely becoming more and more unwatchable. Doesn't seem like it. https://twitter.com/mulvihill79/status/ ... 6874395648 Quote: Michael Mulvihill @mulvihill79 In 2017 the NFL alone accounted for 71 of the year's 100 most-watched telecasts. In 2007 that figure was 22 of 100. 11:54 AM - 20 Aug 2018 And what has exploded in popularity since 2007? Gambling and Fantasy Football. I'm glad you agree with me.

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 2:35 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: NFL Helmet Rule
Frank Coztansa wrote: FavreFan wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: The NFL is absolutely becoming more and more unwatchable. Doesn't seem like it. https://twitter.com/mulvihill79/status/ ... 6874395648 Quote: Michael Mulvihill @mulvihill79 In 2017 the NFL alone accounted for 71 of the year's 100 most-watched telecasts. In 2007 that figure was 22 of 100. 11:54 AM - 20 Aug 2018 And what has exploded in popularity since 2007? Gambling and Fantasy Football. I'm glad you agree with me. I don't agree with you, and going off that tweet, neither does the majority of the country.

Author:	America [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:00 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: NFL Helmet Rule
That figure FF cited has more to do with what else is on TV. Baseball? It's all on the internet now,and has been for some time. Basketball is the same. Hockey idk. What else is there to watch? All the scripted content you'd ever want can be streamed too. TV news is for geriatrics and Baby Mac. Nobody has any sort of reliably interesting programming to put out. NFL is the only time I ever watch.

Author:	Brick [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 3:04 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: NFL Helmet Rule
America wrote: That figure FF cited has more to do with what else is on TV. Baseball? It's all on the internet now,and has been for some time. Basketball is the same. Hockey idk. What else is there to watch? All the scripted content you'd ever want can be streamed too. TV news is for geriatrics and Baby Mac. Nobody has any sort of reliably interesting programming to put out. NFL is the only time I ever watch. Yeah. The NFL is only popular because it's the best thing to watch on television....

Author:	The Hawk [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:17 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: NFL Helmet Rule
Polecat666 wrote: After watching a few games yesterday, the sport is in trouble. I agree. The more the league defines the "rules" the more confusing it becomes. Now some guys in NY or someplace are going to determine whether the play was dirty or not? Or if the guy gets kicked out of the game? I tell you the real solution to all of this crap. Eliminate the hard helmets on players and go to a soft helmet with a face guard and neck brace. This will STOP pretty much automatically when players realize that they do not have a bleeping weapon on their heads that can be used to knock someone out or give him a concussion. Maybe then and probably only then players would return to wrapping a player up by tackling with their arms and body but not their head. Personally I HATE how many NFL players tackle by using their head as a weapon. MOstly because a lot of the time they do not end up bringing the player down. This shit got coached by a bunch of idiot coaches who were lazy in how they coached the game. Don't bother learning to use your shoulder and wrap up the ball carrier with your arms, bubba. No, aim your fucking head at the other players head, neck, elbow, knee, et al. Put the guy out of the game. Maybe put him in a wheel chair for the rest of his life. These coaches like in that bounty gate shit awhile back, should have been banned from football but the NFL looked the other way and glamorized all of the worst hits imaginable. And as a result there are a lot of brain damaged, limb damaged, paralyzed football players in the world right not. So, eliminate the hard helmet. The rest will take care of itself. Players will have to return to playing football the way it was originally designed, namely a very tough physical game but not a game that thrived on disabling the other man.

Author:	The Hawk [ Mon Aug 20, 2018 11:19 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: NFL Helmet Rule
FavreFan wrote: Polecat666 wrote: After watching a few games yesterday, the sport is in trouble. Yup. The NFL can't stop shooting itself in it's own dick. Richard Sherman is right: It really is a testament to how great the sport is itself that people are still tuning in in record numbers despite the league doing everything within it's power to make the sport less watchable and worse. Sherman is one of the dirtiest players in the league. No wonder why he doesn't like this rule.