If Mack isn’t a top 3 candidate, and he won’t be, they should just rename it to The Best QB Award.

Mahomes will get the chance to win it again so I think that you have to go with Brees. He deserves to win one.

Mahomes will get the chance to win it again so I think that you have to go with Brees. He deserves to win one.

That's terrible logic. The MVP isn't a lifetime achievement award, and Zeph is correct that it's extremely difficult to make a case for Brees over Mahomes.

Fuck that. Mahomes deserves it. Don't feel sorry for that skinny white boy. Don't do it, Nas.

Brees has protected the ball

Oh well fuck, let's just give Rodgers the MVP then!

Of course Brees had a great season. Mahomes also has his team in position for a bye, his stats dwarf Brees's stats, and the Chiefs were expected to be a non playoff team by Vegas this year while NO was expected to be SB contenders. There's no case for Brees.

I figured that you would bring up Rodgers but Brees isn't stat chasing. I think how the Chiefs finish the season will play a role in who win. Mahomes is playing at a level where he could win every year. That's why I think that voters will give Brees a retirement award.

If Mack isn’t a top 3 candidate, and he won’t be, they should just rename it to The Best QB Award.

Is Mack even having the best defensive performance this year? Or is his inclusion a given because he's been on TV every week here in Chicago?

If you're just box score hunting it's easy to say Donald is having a better year. When you think of MVP candidates, I don't see how one can put Donald over Mack. Mack transformed the entire franchise and the defense quite frankly isn't very good when he misses time or isn't in "game shape".

Could the same be said for JJ Watt? Or Von Miller?

Is Mack even having the best defensive performance this year? Or is his inclusion a given because he's been on TV every week here in Chicago?

This is a joke, right? Mack has made a Pro Bowler out of Kyle fuckin' Fuller. Opposing QBs have to get rid of the ball close to a full second quicker per pass attempt this year as opposed to last year. The Bears are leading the league in turnovers. Did everybody on defense suddenly get better. Or did Khalil Mack drag their asses to the top of the mountain? Fuck.

This is a joke, right? Mack has made a Pro Bowler out of Kyle fuckin' Fuller. Opposing QBs have to get rid of the ball close to a full second quicker per pass attempt this year as opposed to last year. The Bears are leading the league in turnovers. Did everybody on defense suddenly get better. Or did Khalil Mack drag their asses to the top of the mountain? Fuck.

I'm just asking questions. It's easy for us to say Khalil Mack because we see him every week.

The Texans for example went from a bottom-10 defensive unit last year to a top-10 unit this year. Coincidentally (or not), JJ Watt has returned to his previous year's of production.

This is a joke, right? Mack has made a Pro Bowler out of Kyle fuckin' Fuller. Opposing QBs have to get rid of the ball close to a full second quicker per pass attempt this year as opposed to last year. The Bears are leading the league in turnovers. Did everybody on defense suddenly get better? Or did Khalil Mack drag their asses to the top of the mountain? Fuck.

The butthurt is quite strong in Packer Nation.

Quite.

Your post seems to imply that Mack and his current level of play are regarded as exceptional only by Chicagoans. This is demonstrably false.

The two games Mack was out (and the one he was hobbled) are the best argument for Mack. They looked like a completely different team with him out. They have some other good players, but he makes them aaaaaallll look better. And his aggregate stats will only include 13 games, basically.

The same could be said if JJ Watt, Von Miller, or Aaron Donald were removed from their teams...

The same could be said if JJ Watt, Von Miller, or Aaron Donald were removed from their teams...