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PostPosted: Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:34 am 
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It's about goddamn time someone did. The entire NFC South needed a safety.

Now someone needs to give Kaep a job.

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Reid is good
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America wrote:
Reid is good
Kaepernick is bad

Reid is better than Kaep at their respective positions but even you need to admit it's laughably stupid that guys like Tom Savage, Brandon Weeden, and Brock Osweiler are NFL QB's and he is not. Kaep would easily slide into the 20-25 range on the QB Tier List. He'd be an awesome backup on Carolina, Houston, or Seattle.

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Kap would look good on the Titans as well.

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if you sign Kap and you don't start him, you just invite outrage from his supporters that you're not giving him an opportunity, that you are burying him to make the story go away.

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Now someone needs to give Kaep a job.
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He's maybe a top 50, but there is just zero chance he's willing to put the hours in now. He has his persona and movement that he needs to manage and in the NFL there's just no time for anything else when you're a QB. Maybe if it were the NBA or baseball, or even a different position than QB, he could get away with it but QB's need to put in coaches hours.

People take any criticism of him as an indictment on their entire worldview so there is just no room to talk about it reasonably and why he's just not fit for the NFL anymore. Watch that Bears-49ers game a couple years ago and tell me he is worth a roster spot in this league.


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Chet Coppock's Fur Coat wrote:
if you sign Kap and you don't start him, you just invite outrage from his supporters that you're not giving him an opportunity, that you are burying him to make the story go away.

Good. That's why the Panthers should sign him. Anyone complaining he isn't starting over Cam automatically discredits themselves. Win win situation for the league.

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everyone is just playing catch up to the bears

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good dolphin wrote:
everyone is just playing catch up to the bears

and they are playing catch up to the Rams and Jags

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Only team in the NFC that legit scares me is the Panthers. McVay's little boy genius laboratory experiment is just going to get shredded by the Bears' wild dogs. Newton worries me. He won't let them steal the ball from him like candy from a baby. Maybe Mack or Hicks are strong enough to arm tackle him but Trevathan, Floyd, Lynch, Roquan etc...he will shrug them off. And a lot of the success the Bears rush is having is those ancillary guys feasting off the obsessive attention teams are paying to Khalil Mack.


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America wrote:
Only team in the NFC that legit scares me is the Panthers. McVay's little boy genius laboratory experiment is just going to get shredded by the Bears' wild dogs. Newton worries me. He won't let them steal the ball from him like candy from a baby. Maybe Mack or Hicks are strong enough to arm tackle him but Trevathan, Floyd, Lynch, Roquan etc...he will shrug them off. And a lot of the success the Bears rush is having is those ancillary guys feasting off the obsessive attention teams are paying to Khalil Mack.

The Rams would destroy the Bears right now. They have a better defense and their offense, well, you know.

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I'm going to pretend you didn't say the Rams have a defense even in the same galaxy as the Bears.

Obviously Rams have a distinctly better offense but the Bears will just trash everything they try to do. Drop 7, rush 4...no amount of scheme or McVay trickery can overcome what the Bears can do if they just line up and play. Too much strength and speed in the Bears linebackers, they'll take away Gurley them they'll take away the deep ball. What happens then? Short and intermediate routes? Perfect, that's where the Bears get their turnovers. Little jet sweeps and double fakes...I honestly can't wait to see it. Halfway through the second fake Khalil Mack has busted a double team and is probably in the process of just stealing the ball from someone.

Perfect matchup for the Bears.


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I always thought it was interesting how weirdly silent the people who most pushed the "Kaepernick's not good enough to warrant the distraction" rubbish were about the Reid situation.


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The Rams defense is objectively better than the Bears defense right now, and that's with Mack playing absolutely out of his mind and Donald having a slow start. Very best case scenario you can make in favor of the Bears is they are on the same level.

I'm a homer with my sports teams but you're taking it to the extreme.

FWIW the Rams would destroy GB too. They have the flip side of the Bear's problem. Rams are way more complete than either team.

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America wrote:
I'm going to pretend you didn't say the Rams have a defense even in the same galaxy as the Bears.

Obviously Rams have a distinctly better offense but the Bears will just trash everything they try to do. Drop 7, rush 4...no amount of scheme or McVay trickery can overcome what the Bears can do if they just line up and play. Too much strength and speed in the Bears linebackers, they'll take away Gurley them they'll take away the deep ball. What happens then? Short and intermediate routes? Perfect, that's where the Bears get their turnovers. Little jet sweeps and double fakes...I honestly can't wait to see it. Halfway through the second fake Khalil Mack has busted a double team and is probably in the process of just stealing the ball from someone.

Perfect matchup for the Bears.

You forgot the part where all that happens and the Rams still win 17-0 because Mitch couldn't move the ball across midfield against that defense.

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After Donald (who would be the second best player on the Bears defense) and Suh (who would be around 4th or 5th) there isn't a Rams starter that would beat out a Bears starter. Perhaps someone would break into the Bullard/RRH rotation. Joyner has looked like shit, the cornerbacks are already broken down, the linebackers are a bad joke.

You are clearly very nervous about the Bears now that Mack is in game shape and they are starting to round into form after a rocky first couple weeks.


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I'm going to pretend you didn't say the Rams have a defense even in the same galaxy as the Bears.

Obviously Rams have a distinctly better offense but the Bears will just trash everything they try to do. Drop 7, rush 4...no amount of scheme or McVay trickery can overcome what the Bears can do if they just line up and play. Too much strength and speed in the Bears linebackers, they'll take away Gurley them they'll take away the deep ball. What happens then? Short and intermediate routes? Perfect, that's where the Bears get their turnovers. Little jet sweeps and double fakes...I honestly can't wait to see it. Halfway through the second fake Khalil Mack has busted a double team and is probably in the process of just stealing the ball from someone.

Perfect matchup for the Bears.

You forgot the part where all that happens and the Rams still win 17-0 because Mitch couldn't move the ball across midfield against that defense.

Donald and Suh would be...disruptive...to say the least. But the Bears can get it outside and stretch the shitty, slow Rams linebackers to their limits.


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America wrote:
After Donald (who would be the second best player on the Bears defense) and Suh (who would be around 4th or 5th) there isn't a Rams starter that would beat out a Bears starter. Perhaps someone would break into the Bullard/RRH rotation. Joyner has looked like shit, the cornerbacks are already broken down, the linebackers are a bad joke.

You are clearly very nervous about the Bears now that Mack is in game shape and they are starting to round into form after a rocky first couple weeks.

Suh is better than Hicks and their CB's, if they can stay healthy, well that's not even a comparison. There is a HUGE advantage for the Rams there.

Look what the Cardinals did against the Rams and then look what they did against the Bears. The Bears have a great defense. If you think they are better than the Rams defense you haven't been paying attention to the rest of the league.

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This kind of "well so and so did this against so and so" relativism is bullshit and you know it's bullshit. Trevathan blew a couple plays against a Cardinals team that came out way fiestier and better prepared than Nagy and Fangio had the Bears.

The cornerbacks aren't healthy. One is down at least a month amd the other is a 32 year old on IR. Talib will almost certainly be the player the Rams designate to return but who knows.what he'll be.


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The Vikings are in disarray so I expect the Rams to thrash them tonight. But they don't worry me at all. I would love to face them in the postseason.


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America wrote:
This kind of "well so and so did this against so and so" relativism is bullshit and you know it's bullshit. Trevathan blew a couple plays against a Cardinals team that came out way fiestier and better prepared than Nagy and Fangio had the Bears.

The cornerbacks aren't healthy. One is down at least a month amd the other is a 32 year old on IR. Talib will almost certainly be the player the Rams designate to return but who knows.what he'll be.

It's not just one game. We only have three games to work with, and the Rams are giving up almost a touchdown less per game.

I realize you want it to be true but that doesn't make it so. It's as much of a fantasy as it would be if I pretended GB was on LA's level and made up some bullshit reasons why even though it's clear to everyone it's a ridiculous take.

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They'll win by 30 tonight. Doesn't change my assessment of them at all. They do not scare me at all. Maybe if I were pulling for another team what they do on offense would worry me but if the Bears are healthy the Rams won't stand a chance.

Disrupt the Rams offense and keep the Rams defense on the field? Bears will get their customary TD and squeeze a few FG in. Easy peasy.


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They'll win by 30 tonight. Doesn't change my assessment of them at all. They do not scare me at all. Maybe if I were pulling for another team what they do on offense would worry me but if the Bears are healthy the Rams won't stand a chance.

Disrupt the Rams offense and keep the Rams defense on the field? Bears will get their customary TD and squeeze a few FG in. Easy peasy.

The thing that should worry Bears fans is they haven't played anything close to a good defense yet. It's gonna get pretty ugly when they do. Not sure they can score on the Rams at all. Maybe if the defense scores a couple TDs they can keep it relatively close.

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Have the Rams played a good defense yet?

Oakland- sloppy garbage
Cardinals- objectively bad
Bosa-less Chargers- objectively bad

Even banged up Seattle with no Wagner is better than those three turds.


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America wrote:
Have the Rams played a good defense yet?

Oakland- sloppy garbage
Cardinals- objectively bad
Bosa-less Chargers- objectively bad

Even banged up Seattle with no Wagner is better than those three turds.

Right but the Rams had a great offense last year and are doing what you are supposed to do to garbage defenses - kick the shit out of them. The Bears faced three bad defenses and are still one of the worst offensive teams in the league. What happens when they face a good or even great defense?

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Seems like you have very selective criteria about what constitutes good competition and what does not.

My guess is the Bears do bascally what they have done. Try to battle out drives and as long as they don't waste downs or move backwards they'll grind out ugly first downs. Eventually the dive will fail and they will kick of a FG or punt. They still have a very good offensive line and a nice pair of runningbacks.


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America wrote:
Seems like you have very selective criteria about what constitutes good competition and what does not.

My guess is the Bears do bascally what they have done. Try to battle out drives and as long as they don't waste downs or move backwards they'll grind out ugly first downs. Eventually the dive will fail and they will kick of a FG or punt. They still have a very good offensive line and a nice pair of runningbacks.

I don't know what the first part of this post means.

The second part makes zero sense. You're essentially saying there's no difference between bad and good defenses.

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What about the Bears gameplan do you think will change? They already barely throw the ball downfield and obsessively keep (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky from turning it over. They will keep running this same shit. Against a better defense it'll probably just work less of the time.


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What about the Bears gameplan do you think will change? They already barely throw the ball downfield and obsessively keep (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky from turning it over. They will keep running this same shit. Against a better defense it'll probably just work less of the time.

Agreed. I don't think they'll change much. But they will be a lot less effective obviously and they are already one of the least effective offenses in the league. Gonna be a major problem against legitimate contenders.

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