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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Kyler Murray |
Per B/R, leaning towards entering the 2019 NFL Draft. Hell yes let this happen |
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| Author: | Furious Styles [ Wed Jan 09, 2019 8:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
If the RAIDERS! have to cut Nathan Peterman to make room, then I'm all for it. |
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| Author: | FrankDrebin [ Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
What.About.His.Brain. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
FrankDrebin wrote: What.About.His.Brain. I believe it’s been theorized hanging out in a baseball clubhouse for 15 years may be more damaging to his beak. |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
Smart decision financially. He will be over 30 by the time he becomes an MLB free agent and the way baseball is going, he would never make what he will make as a first round draft pick in NFL. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
Dumbass |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:27 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
Lots of talk already of the Cardinals trading Rosen and drafting Kyler Murray. Bears should give AZ a call. Rosen might be a solid hedge against Mitch's expected regression. |
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| Author: | TurdFerguson [ Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
Declare for the NFL and go the Jamarcus Russell route and be earthshatteringly bad and collect money from both leagues. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Thu Jan 10, 2019 9:43 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
This would be great. The NFL has a much better compensation system. |
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| Author: | Big Chicagoan [ Thu Jan 10, 2019 11:22 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
I keep hearing that he is a first round pick. But I just don't see him being that great of a pro prospect. He's listed at 5'11", but he's probably more like 5'8" and it seems like his speed is his best asset and not really his passing ability (though he did put up good passing numbers). He should take the money if someone is going to give it to him, but, personally, I don't think he will pan out in the NFL. |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Sun Jan 13, 2019 6:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
He should play football. If he’s only playing baseball for the money and his heart isn’t 100% in it he won’t ever be the player he could be. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
He should play football becauyhes guaranteed 50 million, he'd be lucky to guarantee half that in baseball. |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
312player wrote: He should play football becauyhes guaranteed 50 million, he'd be lucky to guarantee half that in baseball. If this was 25 years ago baseball would be the better play. He won't be a free agent until he is 30 at the earliest. Probably 31-32. Teams aren't paying for 32 year old free agents anymore. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
conns7901 wrote: Smart guy. Showing how poor the pay structure is in MLB. |
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| Author: | Keyser Soze [ Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:09 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
Players make a lot of money thru arbitration. Mookie Betts is making $20M this year. Nolan Arenado will make $25M. If he believes in himself he’ll make his money. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:13 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
Keyser Soze wrote: Players make a lot of money thru arbitration. Mookie Betts is making $20M this year. Nolan Arenado will make $25M. If he believes in himself he’ll make his money. Murray would get huge money then too. If Murray is good at both he will make far more on football until his 30s. If he is bad at both he will make far more in football. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
Keyser Soze wrote: Players make a lot of money thru arbitration. Mookie Betts is making $20M this year. Nolan Arenado will make $25M. If he believes in himself he’ll make his money. He can be bad or even suck and believe in himself and make fuckall in mlb compared to believing in himself and going to the NFL and making a ridiculously more amount of money. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
He should just play the sport he likes more and if he sucks go try the other one. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Sun Jan 13, 2019 8:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
FF..please contain your bad thoughts to Parkey. He should play football and default to baseball if he fails( after getting makes 40 million) |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
312player wrote: FF..please contain your bad thoughts to Parkey. He should play football and default to baseball if he fails( after getting makes 40 million) He’s gonna be rich as hell either way. I’d play the sport I love more. |
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| Author: | leashyourkids [ Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
Rick, which sport do you think has the better pay structure? |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:52 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
leashyourkids wrote: Rick, which sport do you think has the better pay structure? Starting QB and first round pick is a better paying job unless you become a top 20 player in MLB. If he was a WR likely to go in the 4th round or later, MLB would be better. He wont get to free agency until his early 30s in MLB and to take home huge arbitration numbers he has to become a top player in MLB. He can get a large NFL contract at QB being average. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:50 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
leashyourkids wrote: Rick, which sport do you think has the better pay structure? For first round picks it is the NFL. In general I would say the NFL too but it depends on the situation. |
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| Author: | Cashman [ Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:05 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
What was Samardzija projected to go, when he was a WR at Notre Dame? I thought a 2nd rd pick. Outside of that, not sure there are any good comparisons, unless you go to Bo or Deion. |
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| Author: | TurdFerguson [ Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:15 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
Normally I’d say baseball no brainer. But given he is a QB and it seems that’s his first choice it makes sense. I have a hard time seeing him fall out of the top 10. If he gets picked at 10, he is looking at 16-18 million over 4 years. The team holds his rights for a fifth year but I’m not sure what that translates to in salary/bonus. If he falls to the 35th pick, he is looking at 8 million over 4. It’s too easy to flame out in baseball. The league finds one combination you can’t adapt to and you become Courtney Hawkins. |
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| Author: | TurdFerguson [ Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:18 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
Cashman wrote: What was Samardzija projected to go, when he was a WR at Notre Dame? I thought a 2nd rd pick. Outside of that, not sure there are any good comparisons, unless you go to Bo or Deion. Late first/early second. He went 5th round to Cubs, but they have the screwy draft where your slot doesnt determine your salary. I think he got 5-6 million from the cubs. Basically equal to mid first round money to get him out of football. And when his contract is up, he has made 120 million in baseball. |
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| Author: | JORR [ Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:32 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
TurdFerguson wrote: Cashman wrote: What was Samardzija projected to go, when he was a WR at Notre Dame? I thought a 2nd rd pick. Outside of that, not sure there are any good comparisons, unless you go to Bo or Deion. Late first/early second. He went 5th round to Cubs, but they have the screwy draft where your slot doesnt determine your salary. I think he got 5-6 million from the cubs. Basically equal to mid first round money to get him out of football. And when his contract is up, he has made 120 million in baseball. And he hasn't suffered any further brain damage. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:37 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
I think you guys are really underestimating how bad the pay scale is for MLB players before 30. Mark Appel is going to end up with career earnings of somewhere around $7 million. Kyle Schwarber through four years has gotten $5 million and will be at $8 million after 5 years. Roquan Smith just got $18 million guaranteed for four years and pretty much can't lose that. The Bears have a team option for year 5 but those are normally pretty good in terms of compensation. If you are going to be good at football, and good at baseball, the odds are very small that you will surpass what you what have made in football by the time you are 30. Even Kris Bryant, who has been as good as you could ever project a young player to be, is 27 and 6 years into his career and at $19 million. Now, after 7 or 8 years if you are the top 2 free agents when you actually get to do it, and the owners feel like spending the money you can get the mega deals but those deals exist in football too. The only real reason to play baseball is that it doesn't destroy your brain. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Mon Jan 14, 2019 8:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Kyler Murray |
TurdFerguson wrote: Cashman wrote: What was Samardzija projected to go, when he was a WR at Notre Dame? I thought a 2nd rd pick. Outside of that, not sure there are any good comparisons, unless you go to Bo or Deion. Late first/early second. He went 5th round to Cubs, but they have the screwy draft where your slot doesnt determine your salary. I think he got 5-6 million from the cubs. Basically equal to mid first round money to get him out of football. And when his contract is up, he has made 120 million in baseball. Holmes: $34 million Jennings: $54 million I'd say he made the right choice. However, MLB is filled with 5th round draft picks that make almost nothing their whole careers. |
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