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Author:  Caller Bob [ Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:44 pm ]
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Not good, Packers tried to copy Bears model but got more Marc Testman that Doug Pederson/Matt Nagy

https://nypost.com/2019/06/17/the-first ... TFr4uIuBJI

Author:  BigW72 [ Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:45 pm ]
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Good

Author:  Caller Bob [ Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:48 pm ]
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wdelaney72 wrote:
Good

Great!

Author:  Caller Bob [ Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:50 pm ]
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Marcus Mariota ain't shit he's going backwards. The fucking Tits offense, never done shit and they made this beta fuck their head coach! This is hilarious! Even funnier than when Reggie White died!

Author:  good dolphin [ Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:56 pm ]
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sad that Rogers is going to spend his final years with the reputation of coach killer

Author:  Brick [ Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:58 pm ]
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good dolphin wrote:
sad that Rogers is going to spend his final years with the reputation of coach killer

Makes you appreciate Manning, Brees and Brady more.

Author:  Douchebag [ Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:58 pm ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
wdelaney72 wrote:
Good

Great!

Image

Author:  Caller Bob [ Mon Jun 17, 2019 3:58 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
good dolphin wrote:
sad that Rogers is going to spend his final years with the reputation of coach killer

Makes you appreciate Manning, Brees and Brady more.

Rothlesburger too!

Author:  FavreFan [ Mon Jun 17, 2019 5:18 pm ]
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Some creative tension is a good thing in camp. I’d be more alarmed if there were no reports like this.

Author:  Caller Bob [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 9:49 am ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Some creative tension is a good thing in camp. I’d be more alarmed if there were no reports like this.

Image

Author:  Darkside [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 11:10 am ]
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Caller Bob wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Some creative tension is a good thing in camp. I’d be more alarmed if there were no reports like this.

Image

That's delightful.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:05 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Some creative tension is a good thing in camp. I’d be more alarmed if there were no reports like this.
So scared.

Author:  RFDC [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:08 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Some creative tension is a good thing in camp. I’d be more alarmed if there were no reports like this.

That would be a good point if Rodgers did not already have a history of this stuff.

Author:  KDdidit [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:19 pm ]
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We've got a full-blown QB controversy brewing!


Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:28 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Some creative tension is a good thing in camp. I’d be more alarmed if there were no reports like this.

That would be a good point if Rodgers did not already have a history of this stuff.

I don't think that's accurate. People for calling for McCarthy's head years ago (you laughed at me when I brought this up in like 2015), and Rodgers never started any shit. It wasn't until last year, after it was beyond obvious that McCarthy was a problem, that Rodgers spoke out. That's not "a history of this stuff".

Also, if you're being honest, you know Rodgers is right in this little spat. It's beyond retarded to tell him he's not allowed to audible plays.

Author:  RFDC [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:36 pm ]
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No doubt he should be able to audible and run things the way he wants. I am not saying he isn't right.

But this goes along with what I told you when the hire was made. Rodgers does not respect this new coach. He thinks he knows more than he does and it is already being seen. This appears to be the tip of the iceberg. A new coach that comes in and does not already know that Rodgers should be able to change whatever he wants at the line of scrimmage is not very bright.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:57 pm ]
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If LaFleur is trying to implement a new offense, then he absolutely should be telling Rodgers not to audible in practice and pre-season.

When Rdogers lines up against the Bears in September and sees Mack, Smith, and Floyd, among MANY others coming to get him (and they will), then he can audible.

Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:58 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
If LaFleur is trying to implement a new offense, then he absolutely should be telling Rodgers not to audible in practice and pre-season.

When Rdogers lines up against the Bears in September and sees Mack, Smith, and Floyd, among MANY others coming to get him (and they will), then he can audible.

"Practice entirely different plays than you will be running during actual games" is probably poor advice. :lol:

Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 12:58 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
A new coach that comes in and does not already know that Rodgers should be able to change whatever he wants at the line of scrimmage is not very bright.

Agreed. It's possible it's only a very slight improvement from McCarthy.

Author:  Brick [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:08 pm ]
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“I don’t think you want me to turn off 11 years,” Rodgers told NFL.com. “There’s stuff that not many people in the league can do at the line. That’s not a humblebrag. That’s just a fact.

Kind of a strange thing to fire the coach you had for those 11 years and then question why things would need to be even a little different.

Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:14 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
Quote:
“I don’t think you want me to turn off 11 years,” Rodgers told NFL.com. “There’s stuff that not many people in the league can do at the line. That’s not a humblebrag. That’s just a fact.

Kind of a strange thing to fire the coach you had for those 11 years and then question why things would need to be even a little different.

I don't think he's questioning why things would need to be different. He straight up said the play calling needs to be different last year. Infantilizing your first ballot HOF QB isn't doing something different, it's doing something dumb. Hopefully LeFleur backpedals from this.

Author:  Brick [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:22 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
I don't think he's questioning why things would need to be different. He straight up said the play calling needs to be different last year. Infantilizing your first ballot HOF QB isn't doing something different, it's doing something dumb. Hopefully LeFleur backpedals from this.
The problem is that pretty much all Aaron Rodgers knows is how McCarthy did things. It seems like Rodgers is saying "Just let me do what I did last year" and the coach is trying to get his system up and running.

I don't think it is wrong to expect in mini-camp for every veteran player to accept the coaching of the new coach. I'm sure LeFleur knows what Rodgers can do and he will let him work towards the best of his ability but Rodgers isn't the coach of the offense.

Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:25 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
I don't think he's questioning why things would need to be different. He straight up said the play calling needs to be different last year. Infantilizing your first ballot HOF QB isn't doing something different, it's doing something dumb. Hopefully LeFleur backpedals from this.
The problem is that pretty much all Aaron Rodgers knows is how McCarthy did things. It seems like Rodgers is saying "Just let me do what I did last year" and the coach is trying to get his system up and running.

It doesn't seem like Rodgers is saying that all. It's actually pretty clear what Rodgers is saying.
Quote:
I don't think it is wrong to expect in mini-camp for every veteran player to accept the coaching of the new coach. I'm sure LeFleur knows what Rodgers can do and he will let him work towards the best of his ability but Rodgers isn't the coach of the offense.

As I said above, it seems like a poor idea to purposely not practice stuff you will be running in games.

Author:  Tall Midget [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:53 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
I don't think he's questioning why things would need to be different. He straight up said the play calling needs to be different last year. Infantilizing your first ballot HOF QB isn't doing something different, it's doing something dumb. Hopefully LeFleur backpedals from this.
The problem is that pretty much all Aaron Rodgers knows is how McCarthy did things. It seems like Rodgers is saying "Just let me do what I did last year" and the coach is trying to get his system up and running.

It doesn't seem like Rodgers is saying that all. It's actually pretty clear what Rodgers is saying.
Quote:
I don't think it is wrong to expect in mini-camp for every veteran player to accept the coaching of the new coach. I'm sure LeFleur knows what Rodgers can do and he will let him work towards the best of his ability but Rodgers isn't the coach of the offense.

As I said above, it seems like a poor idea to purposely not practice stuff you will be running in games.


But it's also a problem if Rodgers really does believe he's smarter than everyone else.

He despised McCarthy for years, now he's seemingly off to an awkward start with LaFleur.

Will his ego allow him to accept coaching from someone who's roughly the same age as he is yet is also far less accomplished in the sport of football?

Rodgers has gradually transmogrified into a more talented version of Jay Cutler.

Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:06 pm ]
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Tall Midget wrote:

Rodgers has gradually transmogrified into a more talented version of Jay Cutler.

That's a bizarre conclusion. Rodgers has a massive ego but he clearly cares a lot about winning. Cutler would have been fine with McCarthy coaching his whole career as long as GB kept cutting them checks.

Author:  RFDC [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:07 pm ]
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Tall Midget wrote:
Will his ego allow him to accept coaching from someone who's roughly the same age as he is yet is also far less accomplished in the sport of football?



I think this is at the heart of the issue and the answer at least right now has to be no.

Author:  Kirkwood [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:13 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:

Rodgers has gradually transmogrified into a more talented version of Jay Cutler.

That's a bizarre conclusion. Rodgers has a massive ego but he clearly cares a lot about winning. Cutler would have been fine with McCarthy coaching his whole career as long as GB kept cutting them checks.

rodgers played and won on his torn acl in the season opener.

cutler pouted on the sideline and let his team down in the nfc championship game.

Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:15 pm ]
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Kirkwood wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
Tall Midget wrote:

Rodgers has gradually transmogrified into a more talented version of Jay Cutler.

That's a bizarre conclusion. Rodgers has a massive ego but he clearly cares a lot about winning. Cutler would have been fine with McCarthy coaching his whole career as long as GB kept cutting them checks.

rodgers played and won on his torn acl in the season opener.

cutler pouted on the sideline and let his team down in the nfc championship game.

I'll forever be grateful to him for that and still find it amusing Bear fans defended him afterwards :lol:

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:19 pm ]
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Really? Rodgers mailed it in and had his coach fired midseason right after he signed a mega contract.

He cares about a different kind of winning.

Author:  RFDC [ Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:20 pm ]
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Rodgers did not have a torn ACL.

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