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Author:  FavreFan [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:45 am ]
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Here's Bill Barnwell's top 10.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/280 ... ivers-no-1

1. Philip Rivers (2004-)
2. Warren Moon (1984-2000)
3. Dan Fouts (1973-87)
4. Tony Romo (2003-16)
5. Jim Hart (1966-84)
6. Jim Everett (1986-97)
7. Jeff Garcia (1999-2009)
8. Jay Cutler (2006-17)
9. Randall Cunningham (1985-2001)
10. Jeff Blake (1992-2005)


Cutler ranked ahead of Randall Cunningham is amusing. I would think Vick should be on the list.

Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:47 am ]
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Jeff Blake?

Author:  Caller Bob [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:47 am ]
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Stat Paddford?

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:48 am ]
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Matthew Stafford over Blake and Cutler.

Author:  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:50 am ]
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No love for Daunte Culpepper?

Author:  RFDC [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:52 am ]
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Rube is not going to like this

Author:  Hatchetman [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:55 am ]
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I'd take fouts over any of those guys.

Author:  Psycory [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:57 am ]
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Vinny Testaverde?

Author:  FavreFan [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:58 am ]
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Hatchetman wrote:
I'd take fouts over any of those guys.

I'd take Rivers. Dan Fouts is 68 years old.

Author:  RFDC [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 11:59 am ]
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Cunningham should be in top 4. Way underrated here.

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:00 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
Hatchetman wrote:
I'd take fouts over any of those guys.

I'd take Rivers. Dan Fouts is 68 years old.
:lol:

Present day Warren Moon might be better than present day Mitch (Pro Bowl QB) Trubisky.

Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:00 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
Rube is not going to like this


That's because Rube is an idiot. If anything, Fouts is too high on the list.

1. Rivers*
2. Moon
3. Cunningham
4. Culpepper
5. Fouts
6. Garcia
7. Stafford*
8. Kosar
9. Everett
10. Romo

Author:  RFDC [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:01 pm ]
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Kosar is a good one. He belongs on list

Author:  FavreFan [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:02 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
Kosar is a good one. He belongs on list

Quote:
As I mentioned, there are several passers who only made it to the Super Bowl as backups, including Brunell, Bernie Kosar and Alex Smith. Danny White won a ring while he was Dallas' punter, years before he took over as the starting signal-caller. We could include those quarterbacks, but since they actually suited up for the championship (and several of them won rings), it doesn't seem reasonable to put them in the same grouping as the 10 quarterbacks below.

Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:03 pm ]
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Which team was Kosar a backup on?

Author:  RFDC [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:04 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Kosar is a good one. He belongs on list

Quote:
As I mentioned, there are several passers who only made it to the Super Bowl as backups, including Brunell, Bernie Kosar and Alex Smith. Danny White won a ring while he was Dallas' punter, years before he took over as the starting signal-caller. We could include those quarterbacks, but since they actually suited up for the championship (and several of them won rings), it doesn't seem reasonable to put them in the same grouping as the 10 quarterbacks below.

Ok cool. Guess I forgot he was a backup

Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:07 pm ]
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sjboyd0137 wrote:
Which team was Kosar a backup on?
Cowboys.

Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:11 pm ]
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RFDC wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
RFDC wrote:
Kosar is a good one. He belongs on list

Quote:
As I mentioned, there are several passers who only made it to the Super Bowl as backups, including Brunell, Bernie Kosar and Alex Smith. Danny White won a ring while he was Dallas' punter, years before he took over as the starting signal-caller. We could include those quarterbacks, but since they actually suited up for the championship (and several of them won rings), it doesn't seem reasonable to put them in the same grouping as the 10 quarterbacks below.

Ok cool. Guess I forgot he was a backup


This actually illustrates an interesting issue with lists like this. Guys like Brunell and Kosar were at the dead end of their careers and had they been pressed into duty, there is almost no way the teams they were on would have been in a Super Bowl position (to be fair, Kosar was in Dallas...they might have made it with Kosar at QB anyway, considering how loaded that team was), whereas a guy like Alex Smith was an integral part of that 49ers team until he got concussed and replaced. At the time of injury, Alex Smith was the 3rd highest rated QB in the league...that's a something.

Thusly, I still consider guys like Brunell, Kosar, and maybe even Danny White as QB's who never really "made" the SB vs Alex Smith as a guy whose team probably wouldn't have been there without him.

tl;dr: Barnwell is an idiot and my list is better.

Author:  redskingreg [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:15 pm ]
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sjboyd0137 wrote:
Jeff Blake?


I went through a Bengals phase as a kid. One Christmas, I had Blake and Ki-Jana Carter jerseys under the tree. My dad still complains about how hard it was to track down a Jeff Blake jersey :lol: I still have Ki-Jana!

Author:  Hussra [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 12:21 pm ]
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Re-ranked by career passer rating rank:

05 Tony Romo (2003-16)
10 Philip Rivers (2004-)
22 Matt Stafford (2009-)
27 Daunte Culpepper (1999-2010)
28 Jeff Garcia (1999-2009)
40 Jay Cutler (2006-17)
62 Randall Cunningham (1985-2001)
62 Dave Krieg (1980-1998)
68 Warren Moon (1984-2000)
77 Dan Fouts (1973-87)
85 Jim Everett (1986-97)
92 Jeff Blake (1992-2005)
161 Jim Hart (1966-84)

Author:  Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:16 pm ]
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Sid Luckman

Author:  FrankDrebin [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:21 pm ]
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Carson Palmer
Dave Krieg

Author:  billypootons [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:25 pm ]
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this is more of a march story than a week 10 in season story.... weird timing....

Author:  Brick [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:26 pm ]
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It's a strange list because they included backups. However, wouldn't people like Andy Dalton and Kirk Cousins be on the list over Cutler?

Author:  FrankDrebin [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:30 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote:
It's a strange list because they included backups. However, wouldn't people like Andy Dalton and Kirk Cousins be on the list over Cutler?


Could be he factored in ages (Cousins-31, Dalton-32), making it more realistic that they still have a chance. Putting Rivers on the list does disrupt the logic however.

Author:  Brick [ Thu Nov 07, 2019 1:31 pm ]
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FrankDrebin wrote:
Boilermaker Rick wrote:
It's a strange list because they included backups. However, wouldn't people like Andy Dalton and Kirk Cousins be on the list over Cutler?


Could be he factored in ages (Cousins-31, Dalton-32), making it more realistic that they still have a chance. Putting Rivers on the list does disrupt the logic however.

Plus Cousins plays for the Vikings. His career is in effect over.

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