We havent had one of these in a couple weeks !!

While the sports world has joined in a national dialogue about race and police bruatlity over the past several days, Denver Broncos coach Vic Fangio told reporters Tuesday he doesn’t believe racism is much of a problem in the NFL.

“I think our problems in the NFL along those lines are minimal,” said Fangio, who is white. “We’re a league of meritocracy. You earn what you get, you get what you earn. I don’t see racism at all in the NFL, I don’t see discrimination in the NFL. We all live together, joined as one, for one common goal, and we all intermingle and mix tremendously.

“If society reflected an NFL team, we’d all be great,” he added.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

He's absolutely right of course. The only that matters in the NFL is ball. The players know this and the coaches know this, if you cant perform you're on your ass. Wouldn't have it any other way.

He is absolutely right, at least as far as the players go.



lol

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You know, I can see a few long-term problems that the whole "white people aren't allowed to have public opinions anymore" edict may bring about. Just sayin, you may lose more friends than you make with this tactic.

Players...yes.

Coaches...no.

Executives...sorta

So owners will accept players of any color to succeed, but a coach that's too far? Get the fuck out of here.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

I don't think it's race related but coaching in the NFL is not a meritocracy and it's laughable to suggest other wise. One white one black example, Jeff Fisher and Marvin Lewis, is all you need but there are countless others.

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Jeff Fischer and Marvin Lewis is a single example. And it's a bad one. It makes literally zero sense for teams to quit hiring black employees at the coaching level due to bias. Seems like they dislike white players at that level by that logic.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

Look at the first 6 words of my last post and learn to read better. The examples I gave are not bad ones, and there are many others. You must not know much about the NFL if you think head coaching hires are based on merit alone.

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look the population of black head coaches is roughly that of the general population. 12%.

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Opinions are becoming things of the past. Want a PC robot, or a football coach? Got to be a fake ass kisser now, or teary eyed pastors will hold a press conference for your ouster.

Fuck yes, another discussion on race.

The only minority coach that was fired this year was also the only head coach who found a new job. Its preposterous to say the NFL is racist, in a game where the difference between winning and losing is minute and the stakes are so high nobody is going to self-sabotage their chances just for the sake of being discriminatory. The best GM of this century is black.

And gtfoh w the Marvin Lewis example. People remarked with bewilderment for years how he kept his job. Jeff Fisher hasn't coached a team in five years, he's old news. Besides the Rams basically brought him in as an agent of destruction so they could get good picks. He was no different for them than John Fox was for the Bears. Are we really upset that teams aren't going out of their way to hire minority coaches to be lame duck punching bags for bad teams? Is that really what this has come down to?

Good lord have the race warriors missed FF point

Truly incredible. I couldn’t even imagine two dumber responses to what I wrote.

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Eh I get what FF meant now. He's not wrong. I dont think its race-related at all though, the Cowboys fired one OK white-ass coach and replaced him with a retarded white-ass coach.

Is Vic northern or southern italian

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yup, it's a friends and family network. figured bears fans would be familiar with concept. rivera getting fired and replaced with babich?!?

I think that's a lot more true in the NBA but maybe it's just perception because there are a lot more black coaches and executives.

And you know, there's more to it than just being "good", especially when you get to bench guys and short minute players. There might be a white guy on the end of an NBA bench that isn't as "good" as a black guy who is playing in Europe or in some lesser league, but that white guy isn't constantly pestering a coach about his shots or his minutes. And the reverse is true too. There might be a "better" white guy out there that can't make a team over a black guy who is a better fit. But you really never hear complaining about that in the NBA because blacks participate in running the league a lot more than they do other leagues.

I think that's something people don't understand about Kapernick. There's more to putting a guy on a roster than just talent. Everyone knows Kaepernick comes with his baggage. Maybe he's the 50th best quarterback in the world. Would you take him over the 51st or 52nd best guy? Even if you were a black executive? Probably not. If he was as good as Mahomes, he'd be starting in the NFL and more than a fews teams would deal with what comes with that. But when you're only as good as he is, the other stuff matters.

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Colin Kaepernick was probably not one of the best fifty quarterbacks in the NFL.

I'm going to say that at the time he started kneeling that's probably about where he fit, but regardless, you understand the point.

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The original concept is stupid. It's a "friends and family network". I wonder if these coaches ever become friends with the hundreds of black players they coach over the years? Hmm. And it absolutely is a meritocracy. There are a few cases were guys hang around because of personal relationships, but there are no coaches surviving losing for long.

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Why are only 14 percent of black CPS 11th-graders proficient in English?

I think most people understood the point Fangio was making.

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GO BEARS!!!

Not in this thread.

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Not sure if we discussed the proposed changes to the Rooney rule but those were just awful. Diversifying hires can be encouraged by doing it by coercion is just wrong. At the end of the day the most qualified candidate should be selected. If there are structural issues preventing minorities from being considered for high profile "spring board" jobs (OC, DC) then that should be examined.

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lovie smith let adam archuleta start games in 2007. maybe it really was racism because i dont know how much more embarassing you can make white folks out to be

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And maybe that's where the Rooney rule should be focused, farther down the coaching tree. You don't get to be a OC or DC unless you are a QB coach or LB coach (or other position or ST) -- would be interesting to see the stats on position coaches as far as minority breakouts go. And then maybe you mandate bringing in a minority for every OC or DC hire, and kind of work your way up from the bottom.

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Denver Broncos coach Vic Fangio is apologizing for suggesting discrimination and racism aren’t problems in the NFL.

"After reflecting on my comments yesterday and listening to the players this morning, I realize what I said regarding racism and discrimination in the NFL was wrong,” Fangio said in an apology posted on the team’s Twitter account Wednesday.

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It aint the six minutes. Its what happens in those six minutes.

People are dumb. If you silence people with different opinions, they will never seriously engage in the discussion again. They will nod their heads and go to their corner of the room.