FavreFan wrote:
JustAGayGuy wrote:
Packers are pretenders.
Hard to argue today but I still think they can win the SB this year
yeah! Ok why not.
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Contenders and Pretenders |
Contenders KC Pittsburgh Seattle Straddling the line of contender/pretender: Buccs Titans Saints Ravens Packers Dolphins Pretenders: Bears Bills Colts Rams Cardinals 49ers Browns Raiders It’s an AFC year. Might be a solid bet to get a SB line on the AFC team now |
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| Author: | This Ends in Antioch [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Contenders and Pretenders |
Dolphins? |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 10:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Contenders and Pretenders |
This Ends in Antioch wrote: Dolphins? Not sure what your question is but that’s a good football team. |
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| Author: | This Ends in Antioch [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:05 pm ] |
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FavreFan wrote: This Ends in Antioch wrote: Dolphins? Not sure what your question is but that’s a good football team. Sure, above average, but in no way a borderline contender to actually win a super bowl. |
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| Author: | redskingreg [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:05 pm ] |
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Dolphins! |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:14 pm ] |
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This Ends in Antioch wrote: FavreFan wrote: This Ends in Antioch wrote: Dolphins? Not sure what your question is but that’s a good football team. Sure, above average, but in no way a borderline contender to actually win a super bowl. I disagree, obviously. |
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| Author: | JustAGayGuy [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Contenders and Pretenders |
Packers are pretenders. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:17 pm ] |
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JustAGayGuy wrote: Packers are pretenders. Hard to argue today but I still think they can win the SB this year |
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| Author: | JustAGayGuy [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:17 pm ] |
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FavreFan wrote: JustAGayGuy wrote: Packers are pretenders. Hard to argue today but I still think they can win the SB this year yeah! Ok why not.
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:28 pm ] |
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JustAGayGuy wrote: FavreFan wrote: JustAGayGuy wrote: Packers are pretenders. Hard to argue today but I still think they can win the SB this year yeah! Ok why not. You new to the NFL? |
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| Author: | JustAGayGuy [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:33 pm ] |
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FavreFan wrote: JustAGayGuy wrote: FavreFan wrote: JustAGayGuy wrote: Packers are pretenders. Hard to argue today but I still think they can win the SB this year yeah! Ok why not. You new to the NFL? No. Are you? Have you seen a team with an aging quarterback and a terrible defense that got beat by a 2 win team halfway through the season be a serious contender when both conferences have significantly better teams out there? |
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| Author: | This Ends in Antioch [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:34 pm ] |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:36 pm ] |
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JustAGayGuy wrote: FavreFan wrote: JustAGayGuy wrote: FavreFan wrote: JustAGayGuy wrote: Packers are pretenders. Hard to argue today but I still think they can win the SB this year yeah! Ok why not. You new to the NFL? No. Are you? Have you seen a team with an aging quarterback and a terrible defense that got beat by a 2 win team halfway through the season be a serious contender when both conferences have significantly better teams out there? Those are extremely specific qualifications so I’m not sure I can say I’ve seen that but I’ve seen one of the best teams of this century lose 31-0 to a bad team and then go on to win the super bowl and have seen several SB champions lose multiple times by double digits. That’s why I asked. Btw, it’s hard to pretend I don’t know you’re darkside |
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| Author: | JustAGayGuy [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:40 pm ] |
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FavreFan wrote: Those are extremely specific qualifications so I’m not sure I can say I’ve seen that but I’ve seen one of the best teams of this century lose 31-0 to a bad team and then go on to win the super bowl and have seen several SB champions lose multiple times by double digits. That’s why I asked. Btw, it’s hard to pretend I don’t know you’re darkside Your 5 wins are just as fraudulent as the Bears are. You're not taking that defense into the playoffs and expecting to see any success, are you? |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:44 pm ] |
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JustAGayGuy wrote: FavreFan wrote: Those are extremely specific qualifications so I’m not sure I can say I’ve seen that but I’ve seen one of the best teams of this century lose 31-0 to a bad team and then go on to win the super bowl and have seen several SB champions lose multiple times by double digits. That’s why I asked. Btw, it’s hard to pretend I don’t know you’re darkside Your 5 wins are just as fraudulent as the Bears are. You're not taking that defense into the playoffs and expecting to see any success, are you? Expecting is a strange word there. I’m not expecting them to win the SB but I for sure think right now they are capable of it. Hence my ranking of them. |
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| Author: | Minooka Meatball [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:50 pm ] |
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Bears and Browns don’t even qualify as pretenders at this point. |
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| Author: | JustAGayGuy [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:52 pm ] |
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FavreFan wrote: JustAGayGuy wrote: FavreFan wrote: Those are extremely specific qualifications so I’m not sure I can say I’ve seen that but I’ve seen one of the best teams of this century lose 31-0 to a bad team and then go on to win the super bowl and have seen several SB champions lose multiple times by double digits. That’s why I asked. Btw, it’s hard to pretend I don’t know you’re darkside Your 5 wins are just as fraudulent as the Bears are. You're not taking that defense into the playoffs and expecting to see any success, are you? Expecting is a strange word there. I’m not expecting them to win the SB but I for sure think right now they are capable of it. Hence my ranking of them. Its not strange at all. You seem to be expecting success for this team including the playoffs. If you think they're capable of winning the sb (sensible chuckle) then you seem to be expecting some playoff success. Unless you're expecting to win the division (likely) and be a one and done. I mean in this thread you've been more tempered than in other threads I've read your work in. So there's that cover you've created for yourself but you have fancied the Packers the class of the nfc this season. |
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| Author: | spanky [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:54 pm ] |
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I think I'd probably bump the Ravens up to "contenders" still. |
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| Author: | JustAGayGuy [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:55 pm ] |
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Saints could use a demotion as well. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:57 pm ] |
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JustAGayGuy wrote: FavreFan wrote: JustAGayGuy wrote: FavreFan wrote: Those are extremely specific qualifications so I’m not sure I can say I’ve seen that but I’ve seen one of the best teams of this century lose 31-0 to a bad team and then go on to win the super bowl and have seen several SB champions lose multiple times by double digits. That’s why I asked. Btw, it’s hard to pretend I don’t know you’re darkside Your 5 wins are just as fraudulent as the Bears are. You're not taking that defense into the playoffs and expecting to see any success, are you? Expecting is a strange word there. I’m not expecting them to win the SB but I for sure think right now they are capable of it. Hence my ranking of them. Its not strange at all. You seem to be expecting success for this team including the playoffs. If you think they're capable of winning the sb (sensible chuckle) then you seem to be expecting some playoff success. Unless you're expecting to win the division (likely) and be a one and done. I mean in this thread you've been more tempered than in other threads I've read your work in. So there's that cover you've created for yourself but you have fancied the Packers the class of the nfc this season. I literally ranked them in the same tier as the dolphins lol. You’re trying to pick a fight where there ain’t one and if you don’t think they are capable of winning the SB cuz they lost a division game to a bad team by 6 I have to revert back to my previous question of if you actually follow the NFL. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Sun Nov 01, 2020 11:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Contenders and Pretenders |
spanky wrote: I think I'd probably bump the Ravens up to "contenders" still. I would like to. I don’t think there’s been a bigger Lamar backer on here than me but he’s been bad so far this year. Need a big step up there. |
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| Author: | spanky [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Contenders and Pretenders |
FavreFan wrote: spanky wrote: I think I'd probably bump the Ravens up to "contenders" still. I would like to. I don’t think there’s been a bigger Lamar backer on here than me but he’s been bad so far this year. Need a big step up there. Defense is still really good. Top-3 coach in the league. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:07 am ] |
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spanky wrote: FavreFan wrote: spanky wrote: I think I'd probably bump the Ravens up to "contenders" still. I would like to. I don’t think there’s been a bigger Lamar backer on here than me but he’s been bad so far this year. Need a big step up there. Defense is still really good. Top-3 coach in the league. You won’t hear any argument from me. If you want to put them in the contender tier I won’t argue. I think they’re a great team still. I’ve just taken enough L’s on them recently to knock them back to the straddling line
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| Author: | spanky [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:13 am ] |
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To me the sneaky team that should probably be higher than pretender is the Colts. And I'm not a Rivers fan. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:24 am ] |
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spanky wrote: To me the sneaky team that should probably be higher than pretender is the Colts. And I'm not a Rivers fan. I disagree strongly. I don’t think they are good at all. But I’m obviously open to the idea I’m wrong. The two teams I could see making a leap from pretender are the Bears and Cardinals |
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| Author: | spanky [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:34 am ] |
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FavreFan wrote: spanky wrote: To me the sneaky team that should probably be higher than pretender is the Colts. And I'm not a Rivers fan. I disagree strongly. I don’t think they are good at all. But I’m obviously open to the idea I’m wrong. The two teams I could see making a leap from pretender are the Bears and Cardinals I feel strongly that the Bears suck. I can't figure out the Cards at all. The Colts have a pretty good defense and a good O-line. Taylor has been good so far. They aren't flashy, they're pretty boring, and Rivers scares me in crunch time. |
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| Author: | JustAGayGuy [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Contenders and Pretenders |
FavreFan wrote: JustAGayGuy wrote: FavreFan wrote: JustAGayGuy wrote: FavreFan wrote: Those are extremely specific qualifications so I’m not sure I can say I’ve seen that but I’ve seen one of the best teams of this century lose 31-0 to a bad team and then go on to win the super bowl and have seen several SB champions lose multiple times by double digits. That’s why I asked. Btw, it’s hard to pretend I don’t know you’re darkside Your 5 wins are just as fraudulent as the Bears are. You're not taking that defense into the playoffs and expecting to see any success, are you? Expecting is a strange word there. I’m not expecting them to win the SB but I for sure think right now they are capable of it. Hence my ranking of them. Its not strange at all. You seem to be expecting success for this team including the playoffs. If you think they're capable of winning the sb (sensible chuckle) then you seem to be expecting some playoff success. Unless you're expecting to win the division (likely) and be a one and done. I mean in this thread you've been more tempered than in other threads I've read your work in. So there's that cover you've created for yourself but you have fancied the Packers the class of the nfc this season. I literally ranked them in the same tier as the dolphins lol. You’re trying to pick a fight where there ain’t one and if you don’t think they are capable of winning the SB cuz they lost a division game to a bad team by 6 I have to revert back to my previous question of if you actually follow the NFL. I'm not picking a fight I'm talking football. Sensitive around here. |
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| Author: | JustAGayGuy [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 12:38 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Contenders and Pretenders |
Oh and I don't think they're capable of winning a superbowl because their defense is terrible. And their QB is old and weird. Losing to a terrible team was just a symptom of that. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:31 am ] |
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KC Pittsburgh Seattle D is too lousy to be a contender. Whoever wins the NFC will get smoked in the SB. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Mon Nov 02, 2020 7:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Contenders and Pretenders |
FavreFan wrote: Contenders KC Pittsburgh Seattle Straddling the line of contender/pretender: Buccs Titans Saints Ravens Packers Dolphins Pretenders: Bears Bills Colts Rams Cardinals 49ers Browns Raiders It’s an AFC year. Might be a solid bet to get a SB line on the AFC team now Too generous toward the Dolphins, Saints, and Packers (unsurprising). The Dolphins win was great but Tua is an unknown and they're just playing him to see if they should draft a QB next year or not (they have potentially a few high picks next year by virtue of owning the Texans' first two picks). Saints ain't going anywhere with this year's version of Brees. Packers are very sloppy and this is the second game out of the past three where Rodgers just decides to shut it down mid-game and take the second half off. Not good when the offense is the strength of your team. |
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