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Fitzpatrick is at least one tier too low. I'd put him in Tier 2.

You have to be projecting with Stafford. He's looked good, but he's barely been on the field

Romo is too high.

Tier 3 and 4 can be combined. Id move Schaub up.

Eli way too low.

Romo way too high.

Manning is done. I have a feeling he's not coming back.

Define "way too". You really think Romo is lower than a Tier 3/4? Or Eli higher than a Tier 3/4? I can see making the argument to move up or down 1 tier, but not two.

Romo's numbers are not that great.

rogers park bryan wrote:

Romo's numbers are not that great.

Yeah they are actually. 64% Completion, 95+ QB rating, 2-1 Td-INT ratio, 8.11 ypa. In a vacuum that is a very good quarterback.

rogers park bryan wrote:

Romo's numbers are not that great.

Yeah they are actually. 64% Completion, 95+ QB rating, 2-1 Td-INT ratio, 8.11 ypa. In a vacuum that is a very good quarterback.

FavreFan wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Romo's numbers are not that great.

Yeah they are actually. 64% Completion, 95+ QB rating, 2-1 Td-INT ratio, 8.11 ypa. In a vacuum that is a very good quarterback.

Do you want him to lead your 2 minute drill with 90 seconds left and you're down 5?

Hell no.

No I wouldn't but I'm not completely writing him off yet. I think he can still have a Peyton in the 2006 AFC title game breakthrough.

FavreFan wrote:

No I wouldn't but I'm not completely writing him off yet. I think he can still have a Peyton in the 2006 AFC title game breakthrough.

5 years and WAITING. Meanwhile, back at the halls of Justice, romo just fumbled on the 2 yard line again... :roll:

And cried.

:cry:

We'll see. In the regular season if he is your starting QB over half the teams in the league would want to switch spots I believe.

FavreFan wrote:

We'll see. In the regular season if he is your starting QB over half the teams in the league would want to switch spots I believe.

Yeah, and in the post season (or in the de facto post season :lol:

) he is a pussy. And can't be trusted.

Darkside wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

We'll see. In the regular season if he is your starting QB over half the teams in the league would want to switch spots I believe.

Yeah, and in the post season (or in the de facto post season :lol:

) he is a pussy. And can't be trusted.

Most QB's cant.

Colt McCoy
Kevin Kolb
Matt Hasselbeck
Rex
Matt Cassell

/\ All decidedly better than Sanchez

Darkside wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

We'll see. In the regular season if he is your starting QB over half the teams in the league would want to switch spots I believe.

Yeah, and in the post season (or in the de facto post season :lol:

) he is a pussy. And can't be trusted.

Most QB's cant.

rogers park bryan wrote:

Colt McCoy
Kevin Kolb
Matt Hasselbeck
Rex
Matt Cassell

/\ All decidedly better than Sanchez

Sanchez has consistently gotten better. I dont think any of those guys have proven to be better than him.

One under reported thing about Ryan Fitzpatrick is that he went to Harvard.

As for Sanchez, his career statistics look bad because he played right from the start of his rookie year. He's been much better since then but not a world beater.

He threw 17 TDS and had 18 TO's

FavreFan wrote:

Define "way too". You really think Romo is lower than a Tier 3/4? Or Eli higher than a Tier 3/4? I can see making the argument to move up or down 1 tier, but not two.

Yeah, I've never made a secret of the fact that I think Romo is a TOTAL pussy and cannot, repeat CANNOT handle pressure.
He's proved over and over and over again that you don't want him in a pressure situation.

Eli is a damn good QB man. He's better than most people think IMO. Maybe not in Fantaasy football, but in NFL football. I'd take him over Cutler, Rivers, Vick...

rogers park bryan wrote:

Colt McCoy
Kevin Kolb
Matt Hasselbeck
Rex
Matt Cassell

/\ All decidedly better than Sanchez

Sanchez has consistently gotten better. I dont think any of those guys have proven to be better than him.

FavreFan wrote:

rogers park bryan wrote:

Romo's numbers are not that great.

Yeah they are actually. 64% Completion, 95+ QB rating, 2-1 Td-INT ratio, 8.11 ypa. In a vacuum that is a very good quarterback.

Do you want him to lead your 2 minute drill with 90 seconds left and you're down 5?

Hell no.

rogers park bryan wrote:

He threw 17 TDS and had 18 TO's

If you want to include fumbles, you should include rushing tds.

The numbers are 20 tds, 14 TO's then.

why did you subtract from the TO total?

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:12 am ]
Post subject:	QB Rankings
Tier 1 Aaron Rodgers Tom Brady Peyton Manning Drew Brees Tier 2 Phillip Rivers Mike Vick Ben Roethlisberger Tier 3 Joe Flacco Matt Schaub Tony Romo Matthew Stafford Matt Ryan Tier 4 Eli Manning Jay Cutler Ryan Fitzpatrick Sam Bradford Josh Freeman Mark Sanchez Kyle Orton Cam Newton Tier 5 Matt Hasselbeck Jason Campbell Rex Grossman Kevin Kolb Colt McCoy Chad Henne Andy Dalton Matt Cassell Tier 6 Alex Smith Donovan McNabb Kerry Collins Luke McCown Cam Newton is the hardest to rank IMO, obviously along with the other really young guys. Also Im really not sure of Rex. Im pretty certain that Brady and Rodgers are the best and McCown is the worst. Beyond that, Im not at all completely sure who goes where, this is pretty much just a rough estimate.

Author:	Gloopan Kuratz [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:16 am ]
Post subject:	Re: QB Rankings
Fitzpatrick is at least one tier too low. I'd put him in Tier 2.

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:17 am ]
Post subject:	Re: QB Rankings
Gloopan Kuratz wrote: Fitzpatrick is at least one tier too low. I'd put him in Tier 2. I love me some Ryan Fitzpatrick but I wanted to see at least a full season from him before putting him in the top 10.

Author:	rogers park bryan [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:19 am ]
Post subject:	Re: QB Rankings
You have to be projecting with Stafford. He's looked good, but he's barely been on the field Romo is too high. Tier 3 and 4 can be combined. Id move Schaub up.

Author:	Darkside [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:21 am ]
Post subject:	Re: QB Rankings
Eli way too low. Romo way too high. Manning is done. I have a feeling he's not coming back.

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Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:22 am ]
Post subject:	Re: QB Rankings
rogers park bryan wrote: You have to be projecting with Stafford. He's looked good, but he's barely been on the field Romo is too high. Tier 3 and 4 can be combined. Id move Schaub up. Vick and Stafford both have the same stipulation - they deserve to be in the Tier they are if healthy, which is obviously a big IF. I think there is a difference between Tier 3 and Tier 4 guys. Admittedly, there isnt a ton of difference between the #6-14 guys. I dont think Schaub is better than Romo. They both have put up fantastic stats with good supporting casts and never won any big games.

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:23 am ]
Post subject:	Re: QB Rankings
Darkside wrote: Eli way too low. Romo way too high. Manning is done. I have a feeling he's not coming back. Define "way too". You really think Romo is lower than a Tier 3/4? Or Eli higher than a Tier 3/4? I can see making the argument to move up or down 1 tier, but not two.

Author:	Darkside [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:25 am ]
Post subject:	Re: QB Rankings
FavreFan wrote: Define "way too". You really think Romo is lower than a Tier 3/4? Or Eli higher than a Tier 3/4? I can see making the argument to move up or down 1 tier, but not two. Yeah, I've never made a secret of the fact that I think Romo is a TOTAL pussy and cannot, repeat CANNOT handle pressure. He's proved over and over and over again that you don't want him in a pressure situation. Eli is a damn good QB man. He's better than most people think IMO. Maybe not in Fantaasy football, but in NFL football. I'd take him over Cutler, Rivers, Vick...

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:27 am ]
Post subject:	Re: QB Rankings
rogers park bryan wrote: Romo's numbers are not that great. Yeah they are actually. 64% Completion, 95+ QB rating, 2-1 Td-INT ratio, 8.11 ypa. In a vacuum that is a very good quarterback.

Author:	Darkside [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:29 am ]
Post subject:	Re: QB Rankings
FavreFan wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Romo's numbers are not that great. Yeah they are actually. 64% Completion, 95+ QB rating, 2-1 Td-INT ratio, 8.11 ypa. In a vacuum that is a very good quarterback. Do you want him to lead your 2 minute drill with 90 seconds left and you're down 5? Hell no.

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:35 am ]
Post subject:	Re: QB Rankings
Darkside wrote: FavreFan wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Romo's numbers are not that great. Yeah they are actually. 64% Completion, 95+ QB rating, 2-1 Td-INT ratio, 8.11 ypa. In a vacuum that is a very good quarterback. Do you want him to lead your 2 minute drill with 90 seconds left and you're down 5? Hell no. No I wouldn't but I'm not completely writing him off yet. I think he can still have a Peyton in the 2006 AFC title game breakthrough.

Author:	Darkside [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:37 am ]
Post subject:	Re: QB Rankings
FavreFan wrote: No I wouldn't but I'm not completely writing him off yet. I think he can still have a Peyton in the 2006 AFC title game breakthrough. 5 years and WAITING. Meanwhile, back at the halls of Justice, romo just fumbled on the 2 yard line again... And cried.

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:39 am ]
Post subject:	Re: QB Rankings
Darkside wrote: FavreFan wrote: No I wouldn't but I'm not completely writing him off yet. I think he can still have a Peyton in the 2006 AFC title game breakthrough. 5 years and WAITING. Meanwhile, back at the halls of Justice, romo just fumbled on the 2 yard line again... And cried. We'll see. In the regular season if he is your starting QB over half the teams in the league would want to switch spots I believe.

Author:	Darkside [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:40 am ]
Post subject:	Re: QB Rankings
FavreFan wrote: We'll see. In the regular season if he is your starting QB over half the teams in the league would want to switch spots I believe. Yeah, and in the post season (or in the de facto post season ) he is a pussy. And can't be trusted.

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Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:42 am ]
Post subject:	Re: QB Rankings
Darkside wrote: FavreFan wrote: We'll see. In the regular season if he is your starting QB over half the teams in the league would want to switch spots I believe. Yeah, and in the post season (or in the de facto post season ) he is a pussy. And can't be trusted. Most QB's cant.

Author:	FavreFan [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:45 am ]
Post subject:	Re: QB Rankings
rogers park bryan wrote: Colt McCoy Kevin Kolb Matt Hasselbeck Rex Matt Cassell /\ All decidedly better than Sanchez Sanchez has consistently gotten better. I dont think any of those guys have proven to be better than him.

Author:	Darkside [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:47 am ]
Post subject:	Re: QB Rankings
FavreFan wrote: Darkside wrote: FavreFan wrote: We'll see. In the regular season if he is your starting QB over half the teams in the league would want to switch spots I believe. Yeah, and in the post season (or in the de facto post season ) he is a pussy. And can't be trusted. Most QB's cant. I thingk you should be able to trust the top 11 QBs. If you can't, not a top 11. Thus my point... Romo too high. (or is it too far?? who gives a shit, it's gone.)

Author:	Brick [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:47 am ]
Post subject:	Re: QB Rankings
One under reported thing about Ryan Fitzpatrick is that he went to Harvard. As for Sanchez, his career statistics look bad because he played right from the start of his rookie year. He's been much better since then but not a world beater.

Author:	Brick [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 11:52 am ]
Post subject:	Re: QB Rankings
rogers park bryan wrote: He threw 17 TDS and had 18 TO's If you want to include fumbles, you should include rushing tds. The numbers are 20 tds, 14 TO's then.

Author:	312player [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:02 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: QB Rankings
Darkside wrote: FavreFan wrote: Define "way too". You really think Romo is lower than a Tier 3/4? Or Eli higher than a Tier 3/4? I can see making the argument to move up or down 1 tier, but not two. Yeah, I've never made a secret of the fact that I think Romo is a TOTAL pussy and cannot, repeat CANNOT handle pressure. He's proved over and over and over again that you don't want him in a pressure situation. Eli is a damn good QB man. He's better than most people think IMO. Maybe not in Fantaasy football, but in NFL football. I'd take him over Cutler, Rivers, Vick... vick n rivers are better than eli..eli and cutler are equals

Author:	312player [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:04 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: QB Rankings
FavreFan wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Colt McCoy Kevin Kolb Matt Hasselbeck Rex Matt Cassell /\ All decidedly better than Sanchez Sanchez has consistently gotten better. I dont think any of those guys have proven to be better than him. sanchez will never be as good as hasselbeck or cassell...rex and sanchez are equals and both should be 2nd string

Author:	Gloopan Kuratz [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:08 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: QB Rankings
Darkside wrote: FavreFan wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Romo's numbers are not that great. Yeah they are actually. 64% Completion, 95+ QB rating, 2-1 Td-INT ratio, 8.11 ypa. In a vacuum that is a very good quarterback. Do you want him to lead your 2 minute drill with 90 seconds left and you're down 5? Hell no. If this is the criteria, Fitzpatrick is in Tier 1.

Author:	Brick [ Mon Sep 26, 2011 12:11 pm ]
Post subject:	Re: QB Rankings
rogers park bryan wrote: why did you subtract from the TO total? My math was different than yours. Nfl.com says he had one fumble lost and 13 interceptions in 2010.