Rodgers will win it if they go undefeated but I've heard from Packer fans that Flynn is a going to be great too. Therefore, Rodgers isn't that valuable.

I think Brees is going to make a serious run at it especially since no one thinks his supporting cast is as good as what Rodgers has.

Rodgers will win it if they go undefeated but I've heard from Packer fans that Flynn is a going to be great too. Therefore, Rodgers isn't that valuable.

Everyone thinks his supporting cast is as good or better than Green Bay's.

Just imagine how great Rodgers would be if he went to Purdue.

Just imagine how great Rodgers would be if he went to Purdue.

Congratulations. You are now in my Top 5.

No. Everyone doesn't think that.

If you put Rodgers on the Saints do you think they are undefeated?

No. Everyone doesn't think that.

If you put Rodgers on the Saints do you think they are undefeated?

Obviously the answer is Tim Tebow. Who expected Him to take the Broncos to the Promised Land?

Rodger is so much better than everyone else that this may become an annual thing with Brady getting old and Manning playing without a neck.

He destroyed a lot of fantasy seasons these past few weeks. Good thing I wasn't in the playoff hunt in any league.

Remember when everyone was talking about how Rodgers was having statistically the best season ever?

It's possible that Brees will have better statistics by the end of the season now, except interceptions, though that's at least in part due to many more attempts.

You were too busy trying to stockpile draft picks for next year.

He has fallen off. He still has more TDs and fewer INTs, a better QB rating, and most importantly more wins. It would take two more games like last week and another bad two games for Rodgers for Brees's 16 game body of work to measure up to Rodgers though.

Brees is likely going to throw for more yards than anyone in NFL history, with a higher completion percentage, and won't be that far behind in td's. At that point, it pretty much becomes subjective.

Brees will get a lot of credit for wins too though if they win out.

I still think Rodgers wins but Brees will be close.

I thought it was apparent from my post that I already consider Brees close.

15 days ago you said the only question was whether Rodgers was the unanimous choice and you didn't reference anything different so I assumed you still thought he wasn't close.

Glad we agree.

Edit: It's like you said about Andrew Luck. Given enough time, people will always try to talk them out of the sure thing. Since Rodgers was basically assumed the MVP this year since about Week 8, people were trying to find a reason to vote for someone else. This past Sunday gave people a small reason for doubt.