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| Author: | Phil McCracken [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
I say no. What say you CSFMB? |
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| Author: | Brick [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
Yes. |
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| Author: | sjboyd0137 [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:32 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: Yes. This |
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| Author: | spanky [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
I voted for the inanimate carbon rod. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
At this point, Orton is better than Tebow. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 12:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
Orton is much better than Tebow. Tebow is the worst QB in the NFL. |
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| Author: | Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
Orton is a better NFL QB in the traditional definition of the position. Tebow may be more effective in winning games using other skills. I don't feel they are a true comparison. |
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| Author: | Free Ajent [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:30 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
NO |
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| Author: | Phil McCracken [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: Orton is a better NFL QB in the traditional definition of the position. Tebow may be more effective in winning games using other skills. I don't feel they are a true comparison. They both play the same position in the NFL. If you are starting a franchise and can only pick one of these two options to be your QB who would you pick? |
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| Author: | Free Ajent [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
Phil McCracken wrote: Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: Orton is a better NFL QB in the traditional definition of the position. Tebow may be more effective in winning games using other skills. I don't feel they are a true comparison. They both play the same position in the NFL. If you are starting a franchise and can only pick one of these two options to be your QB who would you pick? Tebow |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
Tebow is by far the better Christian |
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| Author: | Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 1:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
Phil McCracken wrote: Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: Orton is a better NFL QB in the traditional definition of the position. Tebow may be more effective in winning games using other skills. I don't feel they are a true comparison. They both play the same position in the NFL. If you are starting a franchise and can only pick one of these two options to be your QB who would you pick? Tim Tebow. |
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| Author: | HOVA [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
Tebow will never be a better quarterback than Orton. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 3:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
Phil McCracken wrote: They both play the same position in the NFL. If you are starting a franchise and can only pick one of these two options to be your QB who would you pick? Faulty questioning alert. You would be better served to pick Tebow because he is younger. However, if you have a "win now" team and you need a QB, you would be wrong to pick Tebow over Orton. |
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| Author: | Phil McCracken [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Phil McCracken wrote: They both play the same position in the NFL. If you are starting a franchise and can only pick one of these two options to be your QB who would you pick? Faulty questioning alert. You would be better served to pick Tebow because he is younger. However, if you have a "win now" team and you need a QB, you would be wrong to pick Tebow over Orton. Oh fine. Since this is a magical hypothetical that I am in control of lets make them both 24 years old and coming off their first season where they led a team to an unlikely playoff berth. |
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| Author: | HOVA [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
I would pick Orton no matter what. Tebow will never be better. |
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| Author: | Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:12 pm ] |
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Phil McCracken wrote: Oh fine. Since this is a magical hypothetical that I am in control of lets make them both 24 years old and coming off their first season where they led a team to an unlikely playoff berth. In this case, I would take Orton. |
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| Author: | Phil McCracken [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:12 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: Phil McCracken wrote: Oh fine. Since this is a magical hypothetical that I am in control of lets make them both 24 years old and coming off their first season where they led a team to an unlikely playoff berth. In this case, I would take Orton. What you saw from Orton in those ensuing years leading to him eventually getting supplanted by Timothy Richard Tebow cemented this for you huh 
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| Author: | Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
Can't tell if serious. I'm just stating that in the case of your second example, I would take Orton as he (correctly) gives me the highest chance at winning football games. |
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| Author: | Phil McCracken [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:18 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: Can't tell if serious. I'm just stating that in the case of your second example, I would take Orton as he (correctly) gives me the highest chance at winning football games. I disagree. But I can't fault your reasoning. What is lost in all of this is I actually think Orton is a fairly servicable NFL QB. |
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| Author: | Ugueth Will Shiv You [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
You just think Tebow's a better quarterback. I don't totally disagree, only because they are completely different players. I'm not trying to be obtuse or difficult, but Tebow is completely different. |
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| Author: | Hank Scorpio [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
Tebow will be awful next year. People figured him out at the end of last season and if the Steelers were healthy that game would not have been close. The whole thing is a novelty. It works for Cam Newton because he can throw the ball as well. |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
Hank Scorpio wrote: Tebow will be awful next year. People figured him out at the end of last season and if the Steelers were healthy that game would not have been close. The whole thing is a novelty. It works for Cam Newton because he can throw the ball as well. I guess you didn't see him on Sunday, he was bad!!! |
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| Author: | Hank Scorpio [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
Hawg Ass wrote: Hank Scorpio wrote: Tebow will be awful next year. People figured him out at the end of last season and if the Steelers were healthy that game would not have been close. The whole thing is a novelty. It works for Cam Newton because he can throw the ball as well. I guess you didn't see him on Sunday, he was bad!!! You would guess correctly. I have never watched the probowl in my life. |
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| Author: | Phil McCracken [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
Hank Scorpio wrote: Tebow will be awful next year. People figured him out at the end of last season and if the Steelers were healthy that game would not have been close. The whole thing is a novelty. It works for Cam Newton because he can throw the ball as well I think Cam Newton is a better talent too but I expect the Number 1 overall pick to be better than the number 15 overall pick. |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
Hank Scorpio wrote: Hawg Ass wrote: Hank Scorpio wrote: Tebow will be awful next year. People figured him out at the end of last season and if the Steelers were healthy that game would not have been close. The whole thing is a novelty. It works for Cam Newton because he can throw the ball as well. I guess you didn't see him on Sunday, he was bad!!! You would guess correctly. I have never watched the probowl in my life. I figured not, only losers like me watch it. Plus I took the over. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
I saw a little bit of it. What was the o/u, like 90?
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
Frank Coztansa wrote: I saw a little bit of it. What was the o/u, like 90? 75 
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| Author: | Mini Ditka [ Tue Jan 31, 2012 8:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Is Kyle Orton better than Tim Tebow |
Ugueth Will Shiv You wrote: Orton is a better NFL QB in the traditional definition of the position. Tebow may be more effective in winning games using other skills. I don't feel they are a true comparison. The Broncos did not go to the playoffs with Orton as a starter. The Broncos did go to the playoffs with Tebow as a starter. It all depends on how you define "better". Tebow has won more playoff games than Orton and just as many as Cutler. The thing about Tebow is that he was not the starter coming into the season and they did not have an off season with mini camps and things to get him ready to go. |
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