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Author:  312player [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:38 pm ]
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it is a guarantee now that manning is going to be released ...irsay has started his public campaign to release the future hall of famer.




Peyton Manning's Arm 'Is A Noodle,' Super Bowl Leak Was 'Calculated,' Says Indy Columnist
Feb
08
6:51p
by Brian Floyd

Indy Star columnist Bob Kravitz opened up about the whole Peyton Manning saga on Tony Kornheiser's radio showon Wednesday, picking apart the "medically cleared" news and where Manning stands in his recovery. Kravitz took exception to the Super Bowl hubbub surrounding Manning, and seems to have turned on the Indianapolis quarterback.

A few important quotes, transcribed by Ryan Wilson of CBS' Eye on Football are as follows. The full interview can be found here. On Manning's arm strength, as it stands right now:

"I mean, the guy's arm is a noodle, he can't throw like an NFL quarterback, and by March 8, there's no way of knowing whether he's going to be ready or not."

This is not a surprise at all. On the Thursday before the Super Bowl, news broke that Manning was cleared to play. It was, by all indications, a semantics argument. His neck is, and has been, structurally sound, thus the "medically cleared to play" report. The stability, however, has never been the problem. Being able to take a hit doesn't matter if Manning can't actually throw a football like an NFL quarterback.

And about that Peyton Manning politician stuff: Kravitz pulled the lid off it all with his own opinion. In response to a question about Manning hi-jacking the Super Bowl, Kravitz said he was quite sure Manning did it deliberately. And there was this:

"It comes out on Thursday night about six o'clock -- that doesn't come out unless the Peyton Manning camp wants it to come out. They're putting public pressure on Jim Irsay. It was calculated, it was deceptive, I didn't think it was a good time to do it. And, yes, he absolutely stole the Super Bowl. ... I don't think there's any doubt that he stole some of the attention away from the Super Bowl."

This sounds quite familiar. Kravitz felt the whole Super Bowl week was a political game between Jim Irsay and Manning, with each outdoing each other along the way. And he's probably right.

Now both sides will battle it out and try to end up as the good guy as Manning's time in Indianapolis comes to an end. It seems like the natural end to the situation at this point.

For more on the Colts, head over to the SB Nation blog Stampede Blue. For more on the Manning situation, stay tuned to this StoryStream.
Author:  Phil McCracken [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:42 pm ]
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312 player

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Author:  312player [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 12:44 pm ]
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serial killer?
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:52 pm ]
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312player wrote:
serial killer?
No, fat Rob Lowe


The bears have had several noodle armed QB's over the years.
Author:  Phil McCracken [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 4:54 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote:
312player wrote:
serial killer?
No, fat Rob Lowe


The bears have had several noodle armed QB's over the years.

Let the record show.....That Phil McCracken is not ruling out that 312player is also a serial killer
Author:  312player [ Thu Feb 09, 2012 7:05 pm ]
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i wish i had fat rob lowes bank roll but never killed anyone ....i don't believe for a second that manning has a noodle arm ..this is just the the pr battle that is sure to come when they don't give manning that 28 million...majority of colts fans will be pissed so they are just trying to get these fans prepared for what is going to happen. i still believe manning is going to the jets and his arm strength is the same as it was.
Author:  Scorehead [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:17 am ]
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I told you that Peyton would be released & is done a coupe of Months ago. Peyton would be smart to retire & become the Colts QB coach & mentor Luck for a few years, then take over as head coach of the Colts in a few years.
Author:  312player [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 7:58 am ]
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why retire? he has 2 more good years left in him..if he went to the niners or jets he could very possibly win another ring.
Author:  Scorehead [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 1:42 pm ]
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312player wrote:
why retire? he has 2 more good years left in him..if he went to the niners or jets he could very possibly win another ring.


He cant even throw a football now. Why would he want to go out like Favre did, bouncing around the league & getting bad?
Author:  Phil McCracken [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:12 pm ]
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Scorehead wrote:
312player wrote:
why retire? he has 2 more good years left in him..if he went to the niners or jets he could very possibly win another ring.


H cant even throw a football now. Why would he want to go out like Favre did, bouncing around the league & getting bad?

You realize neither of you have seen him throw so you are both arguing about something you have no idea about.
Author:  312player [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 2:43 pm ]
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nah not an argument ..nothing happened to his arm his arm is the same as it was
Author:  Scorehead [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 4:48 pm ]
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Report: Peyton Manning Can’t Throw The Ball
February 9, 2012 1:55 PM

According to Michael Lombardi of the NFL Network, “He [Peyton Manning] can’t throw the ball. I’ve talked to people who’ve caught the ball for him. He can’t throw the ball to his left. He can’t throw the ball across his body, because he doesn’t feel it. People that catch the ball for him say he doesn’t really have velocity on the ball yet.”

Manning has not played in more than a year after he had surgery on his neck. He’s currently hoping nerves will regenerate and give him feeling in his throwing arm, specifically his triceps muscle.

In the meantime, Manning is due a $28 million roster bonus in early March if he’s on the Colts’ roster.

No one expects Manning to receive the roster bonus, but the question at that point is; will another team take a chance on Manning and sign him?

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/02/09/report-peyton-manning-cant-throw-the-ball/
Author:  Scorehead [ Fri Feb 10, 2012 5:02 pm ]
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This guy pretty much nails it.

Smart move for Peyton Manning is to retire

By Les Carpenter, Yahoo! Sports Feb 9, 5:50 pm EST

A divorce should come soon; Peyton Manning is not going to stick with the Indianapolis Colts.

Now begins the dance between the broken quarterback and the desperate suitors. The Washington Redskins seem like the perfect fit, but what about the Miami Dolphins or Seattle Seahawks or Arizona Cardinals?

What if Manning just walked away for good? Strangely, retirement hasn’t been discussed much in the endless debate about who has been the least fair to whom: the Colts to Manning or Manning to the Colts. But what remains for Manning to prove now that he is nearly 36 and at the end of a Hall of Fame career with his neck cut open multiple times by a surgeon’s knife? What glory would he get from pulling the Cardinals to 8-8?

Manning’s injury was serious. The spinal fusion surgeries he underwent are often procedures retired players get long after their careers are done and the risk of greater injury from contact is gone. This isn’t to say Manning can’t play again after his operations. Obviously doctors have told him he can. But at what risk? Can he whip his head from side to side at the line of scrimmage as he once did? Will he be able to turn quickly and spot a receiver deep downfield, look to see his blockers or whirl around to find a tackler just before he’s hit?

A man who saw Manning late last summer said he called to the quarterback from behind and Manning turned in an awkward Frankensteinish way to see who it was shouting his name. Yes, that was a few weeks following Manning’s last surgery and presumably Manning is better. Those who saw him in Indianapolis during Super Bowl XLVI didn’t describe a stiff monster walk. But they also didn’t see Manning swirl his head the way he will need to on the field. Nor did they watch him throw. Few have seen him throw, and those who have are keeping those observations silent.

Still word leaks out. Indianapolis Star columnist Bob Kravitz, who has spoken with Manning in recent days, described Manning’s passing arm as “a noodle.”

And while Kravitz also said his sources have told him Manning could regain his throwing strength, nobody – not even the Redskins – will spend $20 million guaranteed for a quarterback with “a noodle” for an arm.

Is it worth watching Manning knock on NFL team doors, hat in hand, asking for a job?

He has a legacy, a fantastic legacy, as one of the best quarterbacks the game ever saw. He’s won a Super Bowl, and forget all this silly talk about his younger brother Eli possibly being better because he’s now won two. For years, Peyton has stood as one of the game’s brightest lights. He made the Colts relevant. He won division titles. He did great television commercials. For many in America, he was Indianapolis. Why ruin that? Why not be the Sandy Koufax of his time and walk away before the recovery from this injury puts him in position to get hurt even worse?

Right now he seems determined to plunge ahead even when his body should be telling him it is time to walk away intact. You almost wonder if he is like so many other players and afraid to retire. Football players hate the idea of leaving the game. They have heard the stories retold by so many who left and how those first two years after football are the worst of their lives. This is when they feel most vulnerable, hopeless and flustered. This is when they divorce their wives, lose old friends and learn that their great value to many of the people they know was their active football career.

Maybe the competitive side of Manning refuses to let him leave the game behind. Players, no matter how beaten or bandaged, always believe they have something to offer simply because of their presence. The Redskins and Dolphins weren’t very good last year but superstar players (upon joining such organizations) are always sure the team just needed them and the leadership they brought. Usually this doesn’t turn out to be the case, and the last thing the team needed was a battered, old player telling everyone how to do their job.

But here goes Peyton Manning, bright and funny with a future ahead as a broadcaster or executive or whatever he wants to be, opening himself up to a greater injury, to a worse post-football life, destroying something that most modern-day players are unable to claim: the fact he made one city his home.

Before he wanders into a hopeless future with a bad arm, he should wonder what is left in a career that can’t get any better. Is it money? Is it competition? Can he just not quit?

The time has come to walk away.

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