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 Post subject: Hines Ward retiring
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Hines Ward from the Steelers is announcing his retirement.

Great Tough Player, more than likely not a Hall of Famer and a Former Georgia Bulldog.
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He is more than likely not a former Bulldog?

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I think he's gonna make the HOF. 18th in receiving yards, 13th in receiving touchdowns, 2-time superbowl winner, superbowl MVP.
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
I think he's gonna make the HOF. 18th in receiving yards, 13th in receiving touchdowns, 2-time superbowl winner, superbowl MVP.


It would be good if he did, and I would like to see it, but the Hall of fame isn't taking recievers right now, none got in last year, maybe in 5 years we will see.
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It would be good if he did, and I would like to see it, but the Hall of fame isn't taking recievers right now, none got in last year, maybe in 5 years we will see.



The receivers who aren't getting in are loud-mouthed dickheads. Hines seems like a pretty good guy and widely regarded as one of the toughest SOB's to play the game. I think he will be rewarded for that.
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Glad he's getting a happy ending

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Glad he's getting a happy ending

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Espn playing it safe


Hines Ward retires from NFL


You know they had 10 headlines not get thru

Rising Sun sets on Ward's career

Confucius say: No more Play

Ward retires from Steelers, expected to open Dry Cleaning business
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
reents wrote:

It would be good if he did, and I would like to see it, but the Hall of fame isn't taking recievers right now, none got in last year, maybe in 5 years we will see.



The receivers who aren't getting in are loud-mouthed dickheads. Hines seems like a pretty good guy and widely regarded as one of the toughest SOB's to play the game. I think he will be rewarded for that.


90% of all recievers are loudmouth dickheads. By that logic Jerry Rice would be the only reciever in the hall. Hines Ward is no Hall Of Famer.
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Chilli Palmer wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
reents wrote:

It would be good if he did, and I would like to see it, but the Hall of fame isn't taking recievers right now, none got in last year, maybe in 5 years we will see.



The receivers who aren't getting in are loud-mouthed dickheads. Hines seems like a pretty good guy and widely regarded as one of the toughest SOB's to play the game. I think he will be rewarded for that.


90% of all recievers are loudmouth dickheads. By that logic Jerry Rice would be the only reciever in the hall. Hines Ward is no Hall Of Famer.


Jerry Rice pretty much is the only receiver in the Hall. Ward will make it eventually.
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Big Chicagoan wrote:
Jerry Rice pretty much is the only receiver in the Hall.


Huh?

Michael Irvin
Art Monk
James Lofton
Steve Largent
John Stallworth
Lynn Swann

Just off top of my head, I am sure there are many more.

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RFDC wrote:
Big Chicagoan wrote:
Jerry Rice pretty much is the only receiver in the Hall.


Huh?

Michael Irvin
Art Monk
James Lofton
Steve Largent
John Stallworth
Lynn Swann

Just off top of my head, I am sure there are many more.


I was just pointing out that being a loud mouth jagoff will not keep those truly deserving of election out. see Michael Irvin. It took lofton forever to get in and he too was considered a "good guy". Same thing with monk. Personally I think Andre Reed and a guy like Tim Brown should be considered before Ward.
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Personally I think Andre Reed and a guy like Tim Brown should be considered before Ward.

A thousand times yes. Hines Ward was ok but he wasn't better than Reed or Brown. He is more on that Issac Bruce level of good but not great guys.

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 Post subject: Re: Hines Ward retiring
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Chilli Palmer wrote:
Personally I think Andre Reed and a guy like Tim Brown should be considered before Ward.

A thousand times yes. Hines Ward was ok but he wasn't better than Reed or Brown. He is more on that Issac Bruce level of good but not great guys.


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I think he's gonna make the HOF. 18th in receiving yards, 13th in receiving touchdowns, 2-time superbowl winner, superbowl MVP.

You for Jimmy Smith making it? He is 16th in receiving yards, 17th in receiving yards per game, 5 time probowler and out of Jackson State?

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Big Chicagoan wrote:
I think he's gonna make the HOF. 18th in receiving yards, 13th in receiving touchdowns, 2-time superbowl winner, superbowl MVP.

You for Jimmy Smith making it? He is 16th in receiving yards, 17th in receiving yards per game, 5 time probowler and out of Jackson State?


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I think he's gonna make the HOF. 18th in receiving yards, 13th in receiving touchdowns, 2-time superbowl winner, superbowl MVP.

You for Jimmy Smith making it? He is 16th in receiving yards, 17th in receiving yards per game, 5 time probowler and out of Jackson State?

Anybody who was a number 2 to Keenan McCardell at some point in their career is ineligible for being a HOF player.

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I would however be fine with Jimmy Smitts making it though. :wink:
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Ward retires from Steelers, expected to open Dry Cleaning business
Heard he was opening a nail salon.

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ward was a better blocker than any of those guys mentioned..he may get in...and lofton was not a loud mouthed dickhead...not sure if monk was either

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Ward was a very good player. A player people liked to root for.

Not a hall of famer.

Was he ever a top 5 reciever?
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His numbers arent there to make it in. The blocking aspect is also in question to me. He is regarded as a great downfield blocker, that is probably true, I dont watch Steelers receiver game tape. I do recall a lot of vicious crackback blocks on unsuspecting players.

Blocking is surely a part of the game but it isnt how you judge greatness at the WR position. Would you let a good but not great offensive lineman into the hall because he caught 2TDs a season playing as an elegible receiver on the goalline? Sure it may look nice but it isnt what makes him great at his position.

If Cris Carter hasnt made it then Ward sure as hell shouldnt. I dont care how nice the guy is.

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From this era, Moss and TO will go in before Ward does.

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If you put Hines Ward in, youre gonna have to put Ochocinco in
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If you put Hines Ward in, youre gonna have to put Ochocinco in

Why? Winning only matters for QBs?

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If you put Hines Ward in, youre gonna have to put Ochocinco in

Why? Winning only matters for QBs?


Yes

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If you put Hines Ward in, youre gonna have to put Ochocinco in

Why? Winning only matters for QBs?


Yes

I don't think so. Hines Ward was a better football player than Johnson and helped his team win more games.

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