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Thursday, November 29
New Orleans at Atlanta, NFLN, Nessler + Mayock

Sunday, December 2
Jacksonville at Buffalo
Morelli

Seattle at Chicago FOX, Myers + Ryan
Carey

San Francisco at St. Louis
Cheffers

New England at Miami

Arizona at NY Jets
Steratore

Indianapolis at Detroit
Anderson

Minnesota at Green Bay
Hochuli

Houston at Tennessee
Corrente

Carolina at Kansas City

Tampa Bay at Denver

Cleveland at Oakland

Cincinnati at San Diego
Coleman

Pittsburgh at Baltimore CBS, Nantz + Simms
Riveron

Philadelphia at Dallas NBC, Michaels + Collinsworth
Triplette

Monday, December 3
NY Giants at Washington ESPN, Tirico + Gruden

Yet more NFC East 'action' in primetime. Annoying.

Games in Bold and Blue.

Refs in Red.

No CBS doubleheader in Chicago due to Indy and Chicago playing at the same time.

Northside_Dan wrote:

Thursday, November 29
New Orleans at Atlanta, NFLN, Nessler + Mayock

Sunday, December 2
Jacksonville at Buffalo
Seattle at Chicago FOX, Myers + Ryan
San Francisco at St. Louis
New England at Miami
Arizona at NY Jets
Indianapolis at Detroit
Minnesota at Green Bay
Houston at Tennessee
Carolina at Kansas City

Tampa Bay at Denver
Cleveland at Oakland
Cincinnati at San Diego
Pittsburgh at Baltimore CBS, Nantz + Simms

Philadelphia at Dallas NBC, Michaels + Collinsworth

Monday, December 3
NY Giants at Washington ESPN, Tirico + Gruden

Yet more NFC East 'action' in primetime. Annoying.

Thursday, November 29
New Orleans at Atlanta

Sunday, December 2
Jacksonville at Buffalo
Seattle at Chicago
San Francisco at St. Louis
New England at Miami
Arizona at NY Jets
Indianapolis at Detroit
Minnesota at Green Bay
Houston at Tennessee
Carolina at Kansas City

Tampa Bay at Denver
Cleveland at Oakland
Cincinnati at San Diego
Pittsburgh at Baltimore

Philadelphia at Dallas

Monday, December 3
NY Giants at Washington

Yet more NFC East 'action' in primetime. Annoying.

Northside_Dan wrote:

The Sunday night game will be a snoozer, but Monday night should be a doozy.

Seriously, the entire NFC east is in primetime?

Fuck the NFL and their love that division. The Giants are the only team worthwhile this year in the NFC east.

Yeah, RGIII isn't exciting at all.

Seriously, the entire NFC east is in primetime?

Fuck the NFL and their love that division. The Giants are the only team worthwhile this year in the NFC east.

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Seriously, the entire NFC east is in primetime?

Fuck the NFL and their love that division. The Giants are the only team worthwhile this year in the NFC east.

Yeah, RGIII isn't exciting at all. :roll:

God forbid the Redskins get one prime time game this year. The humanity!!!

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Seriously, the entire NFC east is in primetime?

Fuck the NFL and their love that division. The Giants are the only team worthwhile this year in the NFC east.

Bears fans should not ever complain about prime time games. They hit the limit pretty much every year too.

There are about 10 teams in the NFL that people actually care about. The NFC East contains 4 of them.

Bears fans should not ever complain about prime time games. They hit the limit pretty much every year too.

Quote:

Yeah, RGIII isn't exciting at all.

I didn't say that. I said the Giants are the only worthwhile team in the division. Seeing as how they are the only team over .500 in the NFC East, my statement is correct.

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Quote:

Yeah, RGIII isn't exciting at all.

I didn't say that. I said the Giants are the only worthwhile team in the division. Seeing as how they are the only team over .500 in the NFC East, my statement is correct.

So being over .500 makes a team worthwhile? Got it. Bengals, Seahawks, Steelers, and Vikings all qualify. Imagine the ratings blockbuster a Bengals/Seahawks matchup would be!

Yeah, he's the most exciting guy in the NFL. I have no problem at all with that MNF matchup. It's gonna be fun to watch. But the NFL/NBC or whoever does suck for not flexing out Dal/Phi in favor of TB/Denver.

I love how NY-ish you have become. Im curious, who are the 10 teams?

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Bears fans should not ever complain about prime time games. They hit the limit pretty much every year too.

This has nothing to do with the Bears. I prefer them to play at noon or 3:15 on Sunday anyway, but thats not the point.

This is about 3 of the 4 primetime games in the past 2 weeks including NFC east teams, and all 3 of these games have been (or likely will be) total garbage with little to no playoff implications.

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Bears fans should not ever complain about prime time games. They hit the limit pretty much every year too.

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

Bears fans should not ever complain about prime time games. They hit the limit pretty much every year too.

redskingreg wrote:

Frank Coztansa wrote:

Quote:

Yeah, RGIII isn't exciting at all.

I didn't say that. I said the Giants are the only worthwhile team in the division. Seeing as how they are the only team over .500 in the NFC East, my statement is correct.

So being over .500 makes a team worthwhile? Got it. Bengals, Seahawks, Steelers, and Vikings all qualify. Imagine the ratings blockbuster a Bengals/Seahawks matchup would be!

I would much rather watch any combination of those teams than Philly/Dallas. It's not even close actually.

FavreFan wrote:

TB/Denver may have been protected.

FavreFan wrote:

I love how NY-ish you have become. Im curious, who are the 10 teams?

Not necessarily in order: Giants, Eagles, Cowboys, Redskins obviously. Bears and Packers. Patriots, Steelers, 49ers.

It's very rare that one of those teams isn't involved in a Sunday Night game, and they end up on Monday Night all the time too.

I'm not sure about the last. It's probably between the Jets, Chargers(I don't know why but they get on prime time all the time) and the Saints.

Boilermaker Rick wrote:

FavreFan wrote:

TB/Denver may have been protected.

FavreFan wrote:

I love how NY-ish you have become. Im curious, who are the 10 teams?

The Saints and Ravens obviously have to be on the list.

Week 10 primetime - Indy/Jax, Hou/Chi, KC/Pitt
Week 11 primetime - Mia/Buf, Balt/Pitt, Chi/SF
Week 12 primetime - NE/NYJ, GB/NYG, Phi/Car

God forbid the Redskins get one prime time game this year.

redskingreg wrote:

Week 10 primetime - Indy/Jax, Hou/Chi, KC/Pitt
Week 11 primetime - Mia/Buf, Balt/Pitt, Chi/SF
Week 12 primetime - NE/NYJ, GB/NYG, Phi/Car

And week 13 primetime is?

Face it. The NFC East is garbage this year. Your team is garbage, RGIII is not but the team overall is. The Eagles, Cowboys, and Giants are on primetime almost every week. Don't really have an issue with the MNF matchup this week. Last MOnday was garbage. This Sunday is set to be garbage. Altough I loved to see GB getting the shit kicked out of them, last Sunday was garbage.

redskingreg wrote:

God forbid the Redskins get one prime time game this year.

You know they played on Thanksgiving, right?

Its not groundbreaking. Yes there are going to be some repeats. This week there is a better game to be played on Sunday nite than the NFC matchup that NBC will air.

The Saints get there because they've been good the past few years, but no one cared before Brees got there.

Author:	Northside_Dan [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 8:39 am ]
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Thursday, November 29 New Orleans at Atlanta Sunday, December 2 Jacksonville at Buffalo Seattle at Chicago San Francisco at St. Louis New England at Miami Arizona at NY Jets Indianapolis at Detroit Minnesota at Green Bay Houston at Tennessee Carolina at Kansas City Tampa Bay at Denver Cleveland at Oakland Cincinnati at San Diego Pittsburgh at Baltimore Philadelphia at Dallas Monday, December 3 NY Giants at Washington Yet more NFC East 'action' in primetime. Annoying.

Author:	SHARK [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:04 am ]
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NFL Network's got a doozy tonight with the Saints & Falcons. Much better than the junk matchups they had before NBC Sports had a turkey of a Thanksgiving finale with Patriots/Jets a week ago.

Author:	spmack [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:08 am ]
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Games in Bold and Blue. Refs in Red. No CBS doubleheader in Chicago due to Indy and Chicago playing at the same time. Northside_Dan wrote: Thursday, November 29 New Orleans at Atlanta, NFLN, Nessler + Mayock Sunday, December 2 Jacksonville at Buffalo Morelli Seattle at Chicago FOX, Myers + Ryan Carey San Francisco at St. Louis Cheffers New England at Miami Arizona at NY Jets Steratore Indianapolis at Detroit Anderson Minnesota at Green Bay Hochuli Houston at Tennessee Corrente Carolina at Kansas City Tampa Bay at Denver Cleveland at Oakland Cincinnati at San Diego Coleman Pittsburgh at Baltimore CBS, Nantz + Simms Riveron Philadelphia at Dallas NBC, Michaels + Collinsworth Triplette Monday, December 3 NY Giants at Washington ESPN, Tirico + Gruden Yet more NFC East 'action' in primetime. Annoying.

Author:	SHARK [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:11 am ]
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spmack wrote: Games in Bold and Blue. Refs in Red. No CBS doubleheader in Chicago due to Indy and Chicago playing at the same time. Northside_Dan wrote: Thursday, November 29 New Orleans at Atlanta, NFLN, Nessler + Mayock Sunday, December 2 Jacksonville at Buffalo Seattle at Chicago FOX, Myers + Ryan San Francisco at St. Louis New England at Miami Arizona at NY Jets Indianapolis at Detroit Minnesota at Green Bay Houston at Tennessee Carolina at Kansas City Tampa Bay at Denver Cleveland at Oakland Cincinnati at San Diego Pittsburgh at Baltimore CBS, Nantz + Simms Philadelphia at Dallas NBC, Michaels + Collinsworth Monday, December 3 NY Giants at Washington ESPN, Tirico + Gruden Yet more NFC East 'action' in primetime. Annoying. I'm sure Mac is thrilled that Phil Simms will be on his TV Sunday for Steelers/Ravens in the 3:25P time slot Sunday...NOT!

Author:	Hawg Ass [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:20 am ]
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I get to listed to Ed Hochuli's diatribe on Sunday.

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Author:	redskingreg [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:20 am ]
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Northside_Dan wrote: Thursday, November 29 New Orleans at Atlanta Sunday, December 2 Jacksonville at Buffalo Seattle at Chicago San Francisco at St. Louis New England at Miami Arizona at NY Jets Indianapolis at Detroit Minnesota at Green Bay Houston at Tennessee Carolina at Kansas City Tampa Bay at Denver Cleveland at Oakland Cincinnati at San Diego Pittsburgh at Baltimore Philadelphia at Dallas Monday, December 3 NY Giants at Washington Yet more NFC East 'action' in primetime. Annoying. The Sunday night game will be a snoozer, but Monday night should be a doozy.

Author:	SHARK [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 10:22 am ]
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redskingreg wrote: Northside_Dan wrote: Thursday, November 29 New Orleans at Atlanta Sunday, December 2 Jacksonville at Buffalo Seattle at Chicago San Francisco at St. Louis New England at Miami Arizona at NY Jets Indianapolis at Detroit Minnesota at Green Bay Houston at Tennessee Carolina at Kansas City Tampa Bay at Denver Cleveland at Oakland Cincinnati at San Diego Pittsburgh at Baltimore Philadelphia at Dallas Monday, December 3 NY Giants at Washington Yet more NFC East 'action' in primetime. Annoying. The Sunday night game will be a snoozer, but Monday night should be a doozy. Especially because the Eagles have...wait for it...rolled over & played dead during their 7-game losing streak. Besides, QB Mike Vick hasn't been cleared from his concussion and it's been 2 weeks he's missed.

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:35 am ]
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Seriously, the entire NFC east is in primetime? Fuck the NFL and their love that division. The Giants are the only team worthwhile this year in the NFC east.

Author:	City of Fools [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:37 am ]
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I pretty much only watch the 12 Noon games anyway.

Author:	redskingreg [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 11:38 am ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote: Seriously, the entire NFC east is in primetime? Fuck the NFL and their love that division. The Giants are the only team worthwhile this year in the NFC east. Yeah, RGIII isn't exciting at all. God forbid the Redskins get one prime time game this year. The humanity!!!

Author:	Frank Coztansa [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:10 pm ]
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Quote: Yeah, RGIII isn't exciting at all. I didn't say that. I said the Giants are the only worthwhile team in the division. Seeing as how they are the only team over .500 in the NFC East, my statement is correct.

Author:	Brick [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:12 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote: Seriously, the entire NFC east is in primetime? Fuck the NFL and their love that division. The Giants are the only team worthwhile this year in the NFC east. Bears fans should not ever complain about prime time games. They hit the limit pretty much every year too. There are about 10 teams in the NFL that people actually care about. The NFC East contains 4 of them.

Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:13 pm ]
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redskingreg wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: Seriously, the entire NFC east is in primetime? Fuck the NFL and their love that division. The Giants are the only team worthwhile this year in the NFC east. Yeah, RGIII isn't exciting at all. God forbid the Redskins get one prime time game this year. The humanity!!! Yeah, he's the most exciting guy in the NFL. I have no problem at all with that MNF matchup. It's gonna be fun to watch. But the NFL/NBC or whoever does suck for not flexing out Dal/Phi in favor of TB/Denver.

Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:16 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: Seriously, the entire NFC east is in primetime? Fuck the NFL and their love that division. The Giants are the only team worthwhile this year in the NFC east. Bears fans should not ever complain about prime time games. They hit the limit pretty much every year too. There are about 10 teams in the NFL that people actually care about. The NFC East contains 4 of them. I love how NY-ish you have become. Im curious, who are the 10 teams?

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Author:	redskingreg [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:21 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote: Quote: Yeah, RGIII isn't exciting at all. I didn't say that. I said the Giants are the only worthwhile team in the division. Seeing as how they are the only team over .500 in the NFC East, my statement is correct. So being over .500 makes a team worthwhile? Got it. Bengals, Seahawks, Steelers, and Vikings all qualify. Imagine the ratings blockbuster a Bengals/Seahawks matchup would be!

Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:22 pm ]
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redskingreg wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: Quote: Yeah, RGIII isn't exciting at all. I didn't say that. I said the Giants are the only worthwhile team in the division. Seeing as how they are the only team over .500 in the NFC East, my statement is correct. So being over .500 makes a team worthwhile? Got it. Bengals, Seahawks, Steelers, and Vikings all qualify. Imagine the ratings blockbuster a Bengals/Seahawks matchup would be! I would much rather watch any combination of those teams than Philly/Dallas. It's not even close actually.

Author:	Brick [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:23 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote: Yeah, he's the most exciting guy in the NFL. I have no problem at all with that MNF matchup. It's gonna be fun to watch. But the NFL/NBC or whoever does suck for not flexing out Dal/Phi in favor of TB/Denver. TB/Denver may have been protected. FavreFan wrote: I love how NY-ish you have become. Im curious, who are the 10 teams? Not necessarily in order: Giants, Eagles, Cowboys, Redskins obviously. Bears and Packers. Patriots, Steelers, 49ers. It's very rare that one of those teams isn't involved in a Sunday Night game, and they end up on Monday Night all the time too. I'm not sure about the last. It's probably between the Jets, Chargers(I don't know why but they get on prime time all the time) and the Saints.

Author:	redskingreg [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:24 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: Bears fans should not ever complain about prime time games. They hit the limit pretty much every year too. This has nothing to do with the Bears. I prefer them to play at noon or 3:15 on Sunday anyway, but thats not the point. This is about 3 of the 4 primetime games in the past 2 weeks including NFC east teams, and all 3 of these games have been (or likely will be) total garbage with little to no playoff implications. Week 10 primetime - Indy/Jax, Hou/Chi, KC/Pitt Week 11 primetime - Mia/Buf, Balt/Pitt, Chi/SF Week 12 primetime - NE/NYJ, GB/NYG, Phi/Car

Author:	redskingreg [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:25 pm ]
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There are now three primetime games virtually EVERY week in the NFL. You're going to have some repeats.

Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:26 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: Bears fans should not ever complain about prime time games. They hit the limit pretty much every year too. This has nothing to do with the Bears. I prefer them to play at noon or 3:15 on Sunday anyway, but thats not the point. This is about 3 of the 4 primetime games in the past 2 weeks including NFC east teams, and all 3 of these games have been (or likely will be) total garbage with little to no playoff implications. Actually it's 4 out of 4 primetime games that feature NFC East teams two weeks in a row. GB/NY, Philly/Carolina, Philly/Dallas, NY/Washington. And the GB/NY game definitely had playoff implications.

Author:	Brick [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:26 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: Bears fans should not ever complain about prime time games. They hit the limit pretty much every year too. This has nothing to do with the Bears. I prefer them to play at noon or 3:15 on Sunday anyway, but thats not the point. This is about 3 of the 4 primetime games in the past 2 weeks including NFC east teams, and all 3 of these games have been (or likely will be) total garbage with little to no playoff implications. Those games are scheduled before the season starts, and it's not always easy to flex in another game that is more interesting.

Author:	redskingreg [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:26 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote: redskingreg wrote: Frank Coztansa wrote: Quote: Yeah, RGIII isn't exciting at all. I didn't say that. I said the Giants are the only worthwhile team in the division. Seeing as how they are the only team over .500 in the NFC East, my statement is correct. So being over .500 makes a team worthwhile? Got it. Bengals, Seahawks, Steelers, and Vikings all qualify. Imagine the ratings blockbuster a Bengals/Seahawks matchup would be! I would much rather watch any combination of those teams than Philly/Dallas. It's not even close actually. Something about Seattle I just cannot stand. I think it's the stupid lime green thing. Fuck Shaun Alexander too.

Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:27 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: FavreFan wrote: Yeah, he's the most exciting guy in the NFL. I have no problem at all with that MNF matchup. It's gonna be fun to watch. But the NFL/NBC or whoever does suck for not flexing out Dal/Phi in favor of TB/Denver. TB/Denver may have been protected. FavreFan wrote: I love how NY-ish you have become. Im curious, who are the 10 teams? Not necessarily in order: Giants, Eagles, Cowboys, Redskins obviously. Bears and Packers. Patriots, Steelers, 49ers. It's very rare that one of those teams isn't involved in a Sunday Night game, and they end up on Monday Night all the time too. I'm not sure about the last. It's probably between the Jets, Chargers(I don't know why but they get on prime time all the time) and the Saints. The Saints and Ravens obviously have to be on the list.

Author:	redskingreg [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:28 pm ]
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ESPN featuring the NFC East in primetime. This is ground-breaking material.

Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:30 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: FavreFan wrote: Yeah, he's the most exciting guy in the NFL. I have no problem at all with that MNF matchup. It's gonna be fun to watch. But the NFL/NBC or whoever does suck for not flexing out Dal/Phi in favor of TB/Denver. TB/Denver may have been protected. FavreFan wrote: I love how NY-ish you have become. Im curious, who are the 10 teams? Not necessarily in order: Giants, Eagles, Cowboys, Redskins obviously. Bears and Packers. Patriots, Steelers, 49ers. It's very rare that one of those teams isn't involved in a Sunday Night game, and they end up on Monday Night all the time too. I'm not sure about the last. It's probably between the Jets, Chargers(I don't know why but they get on prime time all the time) and the Saints. The Saints and Ravens obviously have to be on the list. Also, Im not gonna look it up, but I can pretty much guarantee that the Saints and Ravens have had better ratings, more prime time games, and more national appeal than the Redskins have in the past 5-7 years.

Author:	Brick [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:31 pm ]
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FavreFan wrote: The Saints and Ravens obviously have to be on the list. I don't agree about the Ravens. They always seem to play the Steelers in prime time. I don't think they are considered the draw that other teams are. The Saints get there because they've been good the past few years, but no one cared before Brees got there.

Author:	redskingreg [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:36 pm ]
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Frank Coztansa wrote: redskingreg wrote: Week 10 primetime - Indy/Jax, Hou/Chi, KC/Pitt Week 11 primetime - Mia/Buf, Balt/Pitt, Chi/SF Week 12 primetime - NE/NYJ, GB/NYG, Phi/Car And week 13 primetime is? Face it. The NFC East is garbage this year. Your team is garbage, RGIII is not but the team overall is. The Eagles, Cowboys, and Giants are on primetime almost every week. Don't really have an issue with the MNF matchup this week. Last MOnday was garbage. This Sunday is set to be garbage. Altough I loved to see GB getting the shit kicked out of them, last Sunday was garbage. redskingreg wrote: God forbid the Redskins get one prime time game this year. You know they played on Thanksgiving, right? Its not groundbreaking. Yes there are going to be some repeats. This week there is a better game to be played on Sunday nite than the NFC matchup that NBC will air. Sorry, you said "past" two weeks. Didn't realize your past included the three days ahead of us. I'll adjust accordingly. And, yes, I know they played on Thanksgiving. I was at the game. I didn't consider that because Dallas is in that slot annually. I'm not defending the NFC East as a good division. Them being featured in primetime happens every year. Of course last Monday sucked, but don't tell me, going into this season, that you would have said Vick and the Eagles vs. Cam and the Panthers would be "Garbage." Arguably two of the most exciting players in the NFL. Cam happens to suck now, and Vick is toast. Networks can't predict how these teams will look seven months after the schedule is made, since MNF cannot be flexed.

Author:	FavreFan [ Thu Nov 29, 2012 12:37 pm ]
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: The Saints get there because they've been good the past few years, but no one cared before Brees got there. That's kinda the point though. When teams suck, nobody gives a shit about them. Nobody has cares about the Redskins pretty much since I've been watching football. They have been an afterthought. The Ravens have been a bigger draw the past 15 years, and they've faced plenty of other teams besides the Steelers in prime time. Nobody cared about the Patriots really before Brady became a star. Everybody was groaning when they made the SB against the Rams in 2001. More than almost any other sport, people care about good teams in the NFL. That's the draw.