rogers park bryan wrote:
redskingreg wrote:
I don't care what St. Louis does.
This will be a fun out of context quote during baseball season
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| Author: | Brick [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:10 pm ] |
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when you compare it to the disaster trade for Trent Richardson. I believe I did hear some guy on television stating that the Colts offense is terrible for his style of running and they predicted with offseason adjustments he'll be better but how can you make a trade like that? This could be an all-time bad trade. |
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| Author: | Eaglo Jeff [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:10 pm ] |
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Incomplete |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:11 pm ] |
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Browns on the way up |
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| Author: | redskingreg [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:13 pm ] |
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Better than the Gaines Adams trade. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:14 pm ] |
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redskingreg wrote: Better than the Gaines Adams trade. You got me there.I wonder if Cleveland knew how bad he really was or if they got lucky too. |
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| Author: | Eaglo Jeff [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:14 pm ] |
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redskingreg wrote: Better than the Gaines Adams trade. Too soon |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:17 pm ] |
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: redskingreg wrote: Better than the Gaines Adams trade. You got me there.I wonder if Cleveland knew how bad he really was or if they got lucky too. I'm pretty sure they knew. Eaglo Jeff wrote: Incomplete You really think so? |
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| Author: | denisdman [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:19 pm ] |
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: when you compare it to the disaster trade for Trent Richardson. I believe I did hear some guy on television stating that the Colts offense is terrible for his style of running and they predicted with offseason adjustments he'll be better but how can you make a trade like that? This could be an all-time bad trade. They flashed Trent's stats on the screen, and I could not believe how bad he has been, like 2.4 yards/carry. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:19 pm ] |
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FavreFan wrote: I'm pretty sure they knew. They are still the Browns though.http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/09/mike_holmgren_blasts_cleveland.html |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:21 pm ] |
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: redskingreg wrote: Better than the Gaines Adams trade. You got me there.I wonder if Cleveland knew how bad he really was or if they got lucky too. Eddie Lacey is pretty much the same guy and people are pushing him for ROY. |
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| Author: | Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:24 pm ] |
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good dolphin wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: redskingreg wrote: Better than the Gaines Adams trade. You got me there.I wonder if Cleveland knew how bad he really was or if they got lucky too. Eddie Lacey is pretty much the same guy and people are pushing him for ROY. |
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| Author: | Eaglo Jeff [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:25 pm ] |
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FavreFan wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: redskingreg wrote: Better than the Gaines Adams trade. You got me there.I wonder if Cleveland knew how bad he really was or if they got lucky too. I'm pretty sure they knew. Eaglo Jeff wrote: Incomplete You really think so? Yes. He hasn't really proved anything yet, other than stats. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:25 pm ] |
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: FavreFan wrote: I'm pretty sure they knew. They are still the Browns though.http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/09/mike_holmgren_blasts_cleveland.html Holmgren trying to retroactively justify trading three picks just to move up one spot to take Richardson |
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| Author: | Brick [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:27 pm ] |
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rogers park bryan wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: FavreFan wrote: I'm pretty sure they knew. They are still the Browns though.http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2013/09/mike_holmgren_blasts_cleveland.html Holmgren trying to retroactively justify trading three picks just to move up one spot to take Richardson |
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:30 pm ] |
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RG3 trade looking pretty bad. |
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| Author: | redskingreg [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:33 pm ] |
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KDdidit wrote: RG3 trade looking pretty bad. The RGIII trade is pretty cut and dry to me. If he wins a Superb Owl in Washington, it's a success. Anything less is a failure. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:35 pm ] |
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good dolphin wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: redskingreg wrote: Better than the Gaines Adams trade. You got me there.I wonder if Cleveland knew how bad he really was or if they got lucky too. Eddie Lacey is pretty much the same guy and people are pushing him for ROY. Keenan Allen should win ROY. But Lacy is at least an acceptable starting RB. Richardson is terrible at pretty much everything. To say they are the same guy is simply ignorant. |
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| Author: | Hatchetman [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:36 pm ] |
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Better than the Rick Mirer trade! |
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| Author: | Kirkwood [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 1:42 pm ] |
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FavreFan wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: redskingreg wrote: Better than the Gaines Adams trade. You got me there.I wonder if Cleveland knew how bad he really was or if they got lucky too. I'm pretty sure they knew. Jim Brown ripped him the day he was drafted. They for sure knew. dolphins is mad his Franklin>Fatty prediction hasn't worked out. I'm all in on Fatty. He's been a rock. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:00 pm ] |
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It was the right move at that time, it's just too bad Angelo couldn't surround him with better WRs than Williams and Hester. Of course we've seen how good to decent Cutler is with better weapons, as opposed to great, but the trade was still worth it IMO. It put the Bears back in the mix after they disappeared with Rex's final implosion and the defense's post-SB collapse. I think our views now will be colored with hindsight more than we'd like, but at the time you make that trade ten times out of ten. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:05 pm ] |
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veganfan21 wrote: It was the right move at that time, it's just too bad Angelo couldn't surround him with better WRs than Williams and Hester. Of course we've seen how good to decent Cutler is with better weapons, as opposed to great, but the trade was still worth it IMO. It put the Bears back in the mix after they disappeared with Rex's final implosion and the defense's post-SB collapse. I think our views now will be colored with hindsight more than we'd like, but at the time you make that trade ten times out of ten. Except it didn't really solve our quarterback problems, and it was expensive.It seems like you are saying it was a good trade because it could have been a great trade. That isn't how it works. He's been mediocre at best as a whole, with periods of above average. It's just not as terrible as other trades. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:06 pm ] |
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Next years Super Bowl would have been a better place to make this announcement!! Of course, then they need to pay Jay $100 Mill, which they wont and he walks. |
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| Author: | veganfan21 [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:14 pm ] |
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Boilermaker Rick wrote: veganfan21 wrote: It was the right move at that time, it's just too bad Angelo couldn't surround him with better WRs than Williams and Hester. Of course we've seen how good to decent Cutler is with better weapons, as opposed to great, but the trade was still worth it IMO. It put the Bears back in the mix after they disappeared with Rex's final implosion and the defense's post-SB collapse. I think our views now will be colored with hindsight more than we'd like, but at the time you make that trade ten times out of ten. Except it didn't really solve our quarterback problems, and it was expensive.It seems like you are saying it was a good trade because it could have been a great trade. That isn't how it works. He's been mediocre at best as a whole, with periods of above average. It's just not as terrible as other trades. I am saying it was a good trade because it put the Bears back in the mix. If you wanted to move forward with prodigiously talented tandem of Grossman and Orton then that's fine. It seems you want an elite QB, which I don't really have a problem with, but you also have a shot with a good to decent QB, which is what Cutler is. They got to the championship game in his second year, and were in the playoff hunt the past two seasons before collapsing due to injury or just not getting it done in general. Cutler is not the long term answer if the question concerns acquiring an elite QB, but he is not the Bears' biggest problem in any shape whatsoever. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:23 pm ] |
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veganfan21 wrote: I am saying it was a good trade because it put the Bears back in the mix. If you wanted to move forward with prodigiously talented tandem of Grossman and Orton then that's fine. Back in what mix? The four years prior to Cutler were better than the first four years of Cutler.
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| Author: | KDdidit [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:44 pm ] |
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redskingreg wrote: KDdidit wrote: RG3 trade looking pretty bad. The RGIII trade is pretty cut and dry to me. If he wins a Superb Owl in Washington, it's a success. Anything less is a failure. Not if StL wins 2 or more |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 2:47 pm ] |
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#2014PHX |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:27 pm ] |
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redskingreg wrote: If he wins a Superb Owl in Washington, it's a success. Anything less is a failure. Who?
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| Author: | redskingreg [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:28 pm ] |
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KDdidit wrote: redskingreg wrote: KDdidit wrote: RG3 trade looking pretty bad. The RGIII trade is pretty cut and dry to me. If he wins a Superb Owl in Washington, it's a success. Anything less is a failure. Not if StL wins 2 or more I don't care what St. Louis does. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:34 pm ] |
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redskingreg wrote: I don't care what St. Louis does. This will be a fun out of context quote during baseball season |
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| Author: | redskingreg [ Mon Dec 09, 2013 3:38 pm ] |
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rogers park bryan wrote: redskingreg wrote: I don't care what St. Louis does. This will be a fun out of context quote during baseball season
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