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| Author: | bigfan [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:04 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Where does Lovie land? |
lotsa openings now, he already interviewed in Houston. Washington and Detroit have offense, no discipline, Lovie brings the discipline. |
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| Author: | Bucky Chris [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
Tampa is the obvious one, I think. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
I'm not sure if he gets a job. Houston would be a perfect scenario for him but I don't think he is at the top of their list. He was more of the minority interview. |
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| Author: | hootmon [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
Nas wrote: I'm not sure if he gets a job. Houston would be a perfect scenario for him but I don't think he is at the top of their list. He was more of the minority interview. Houston would be the best bet. I hate to say "instant credibility" but wouldn't that team want someone who has coached before and had a modicum of success rather than some newcomer? |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
I dont want him anywhere near Detroit. He would fix them very quickly. Go to Houston |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:41 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
rogers park bryan wrote: I dont want him anywhere near Detroit. He would fix them very quickly. Go to Houston Go to anywhere but Detroit. Not too worried about him with Minnesota either, but the Lions have a DL that is perfect for his system. |
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| Author: | good dolphin [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
FavreFan wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: I dont want him anywhere near Detroit. He would fix them very quickly. Go to Houston Go to anywhere but Detroit. Not too worried about him with Minnesota either, but the Lions have a DL that is perfect for his system. and cover 2 CB is pretty easy to draft or find on the cheap |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
good dolphin wrote: FavreFan wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: I dont want him anywhere near Detroit. He would fix them very quickly. Go to Houston Go to anywhere but Detroit. Not too worried about him with Minnesota either, but the Lions have a DL that is perfect for his system. and cover 2 CB is pretty easy to draft or find on the cheap Eggggzactly Lovie can make a bad Defense passable in quick order. And he'll reign in Stafford |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:46 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
There is talk of him going to Tampa along with his former GM. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
Jerry Angelo? |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
rogers park bryan wrote: And he'll reign in Stafford Not sure about that. Best case scenario probably is he doesn't make their offense worse. |
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| Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:49 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
Detroit would be crazy not to hire Lovie before the lunch hour is over. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:50 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
FavreFan wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: And he'll reign in Stafford Not sure about that. Best case scenario probably is he doesn't make their offense worse. "His" offense is so bland though. I think it would be improvement by virtue of that. |
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| Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
I think Lovie learned his lesson on having a solid OC. He'll have a lot more luck getting a quality OC on a new contract going with Detroit's offensive weapons. |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
Frank Coztansa wrote: Jerry Angelo? Yes, my son was reading something from either Schefter or Jay from Fox's twitter account. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: I think Lovie learned his lesson on having a solid OC. He'll have a lot more luck getting a quality OC on a new contract going with Detroit's offensive weapons. Seriously that's an OC's dream (other than being in Detroit) |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
rogers park bryan wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: I think Lovie learned his lesson on having a solid OC. He'll have a lot more luck getting a quality OC on a new contract going with Detroit's offensive weapons. Seriously that's an OC's dream (other than being in Detroit) And coaching Stafford. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:56 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
FavreFan wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: I think Lovie learned his lesson on having a solid OC. He'll have a lot more luck getting a quality OC on a new contract going with Detroit's offensive weapons. Seriously that's an OC's dream (other than being in Detroit) And coaching Stafford. As bad as he is, he's mega talented |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: I think Lovie learned his lesson on having a solid OC. He'll have a lot more luck getting a quality OC on a new contract going with Detroit's offensive weapons. Lovie isnt the best at hires, as we have seen. Lotsa Paranoia in his thoughts. He hired his friends that would never take his job and got rid of those that might take it. He knows a really good OC, would be a threat to him right away. |
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| Author: | Big Chicagoan [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
rogers park bryan wrote: FavreFan wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: I think Lovie learned his lesson on having a solid OC. He'll have a lot more luck getting a quality OC on a new contract going with Detroit's offensive weapons. Seriously that's an OC's dream (other than being in Detroit) And coaching Stafford. As bad as he is, he's mega talented Sounds like Cutler 2.0. Worked well for Lovie before. |
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| Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
rogers park bryan wrote: As bad as he is, he's mega talented He's a wilder version of Jay Cutler. They're practically the same guy. Shouldn't Detroit lose him like the Bears should lose Cutler? |
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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 12:59 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: Detroit would be crazy not to hire Lovie before the lunch hour is over. I believe they are. I would instantly hate him if he coached the Lions. The AFC is a better place for him. Honestly I don't believe he will get hired as an NFL head coach. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
rogers park bryan wrote: FavreFan wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: I think Lovie learned his lesson on having a solid OC. He'll have a lot more luck getting a quality OC on a new contract going with Detroit's offensive weapons. Seriously that's an OC's dream (other than being in Detroit) And coaching Stafford. As bad as he is, he's mega talented Right. He's just talented enough to get a coach fired. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:01 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: As bad as he is, he's mega talented He's a wilder version of Jay Cutler. They're practically the same guy. Shouldn't Detroit lose him like the Bears should lose Cutler? Great comparison. I'm not sure if you can work with either of them. You just take the good with the bad. Even though I believe Cutler and Martz was starting to work before he got injured in San Diego. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:34 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: rogers park bryan wrote: As bad as he is, he's mega talented He's a wilder version of Jay Cutler. They're practically the same guy. Shouldn't Detroit lose him like the Bears should lose Cutler? I disagree with your assessment. Also Stafford has had 3 full years and was GREAT in one of them. Cutler doesnt have a 97.2 RTG with 41 TD's to highlight I cant believe you're all OUT on Stafford. Pretty early to do that to a guy. He has better numbers than Cutler did when the Bears traded 2 first round picks for him |
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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:37 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
Cutler doesn't have Megatron either. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:39 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
Nas wrote: Cutler doesn't have Megatron either. He's had Marshall for most of his career. Not Megatron, but not bad either. But Im not arguing Stafford is great. I just think its too early to tell. I dont think a bad QB throws 41 TD's and has a 97.2 season rtg. Even with Megatron |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
I don't really like looking up stat splits, mostly because Im lazy, but don't Stafford's numbers sans Megatron indicate he is a pretty below average QB? |
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| Author: | Seacrest [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:42 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
FavreFan wrote: I don't really like looking up stat splits, mostly because Im lazy, but don't Stafford's numbers sans Megatron indicate he is a pretty below average QB? Yes |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Dec 30, 2013 1:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Where does Lovie land? |
FavreFan wrote: I don't really like looking up stat splits, mostly because Im lazy, but don't Stafford's numbers sans Megatron indicate he is a pretty below average QB? How do you take out Johnson's numbers? He's played in like every game Stafford has been in. |
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