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| Author: | Darkside [ Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Leaping vs. Dunking` |
Why would dunking a football over the goalpost for a TD celebration be a penalty but jumping into the crowd is not? I would wager that from a safety perspective, the Lambeau Leap is much more dangerous for the player (and even the fans) than the crossbar dunk isn't it? |
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| Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Leaping vs. Dunking` |
I think the issue is they don't want players to break the goalposts like Jimmy Graham. Plus with them adding an extra 5 feet or whatever to the post, seems more probably that some idiot could snap the thing in half. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:25 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Leaping vs. Dunking` |
Dr Ken is right, it's about messing with the goalpost. And even the No Fun League knows better than to mess with the Lambeau Leap. |
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| Author: | Dr. Kenneth Noisewater [ Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:28 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Leaping vs. Dunking` |
The NFL doesn't give a shit about player safety unless they are forced to deal with an issue. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Leaping vs. Dunking` |
Has the Lameau Leap ever harmed a player? It's not like they are head-butting the wall. |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:57 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Leaping vs. Dunking` |
FavreFan wrote: Has the Lameau Leap ever harmed a player? It's not like they are head-butting the wall. I don't think so but it only takes one dumbassed fan to shiv a guy. |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Leaping vs. Dunking` |
Pretty sure not but it always seemed to me a team would worry one would pop a back disc or something really freakish. |
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| Author: | FavreFan [ Tue Apr 01, 2014 5:58 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Leaping vs. Dunking` |
Darkside wrote: FavreFan wrote: Has the Lameau Leap ever harmed a player? It's not like they are head-butting the wall. I don't think so but it only takes one dumbassed fan to shiv a guy.  I guess. I really don't see that happening at Lambeau to a Packer though. It's not the Cell.
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| Author: | Darkside [ Tue Apr 01, 2014 6:00 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Leaping vs. Dunking` |
FavreFan wrote: Darkside wrote: FavreFan wrote: Has the Lameau Leap ever harmed a player? It's not like they are head-butting the wall. I don't think so but it only takes one dumbassed fan to shiv a guy. I guess. I really don't see that happening at Lambeau to a Packer though. It's not the Cell.Conversely I don't think anyone got harmed by dunking either. Or with a sharpie. It's just more odd inconsistancies from the NFL. |
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| Author: | bigfan [ Tue Apr 01, 2014 7:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Leaping vs. Dunking` |
Jimmy Graham fucked it up for everyone on his dunk which took 15 minutes to re-level the posts |
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| Author: | Powerhouse233 [ Tue Apr 01, 2014 7:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Leaping vs. Dunking` |
One delay and they ban it permanently? Seems like an overreaction. The 'dunk celebration' has probably been done hundreds of times and this is the only instance where I can recall a delay. Probably had more to do with the uprights needing repairs prior to the dunk rather than Graham dismantling it. |
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| Author: | RFDC [ Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:05 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Leaping vs. Dunking` |
Darkside wrote: FavreFan wrote: Has the Lameau Leap ever harmed a player? It's not like they are head-butting the wall. I don't think so but it only takes one dumbassed fan to shiv a guy. Need some front row tickets to Lambeau immediately! |
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| Author: | Mr. Reason [ Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:14 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Leaping vs. Dunking` |
Robert Wadlow could dunk without leaping. |
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| Author: | Powerhouse233 [ Tue Apr 01, 2014 8:16 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Leaping vs. Dunking` |
Mr. Reason wrote: Robert Wadlow could dunk without leaping. The Bears should have signed him to block field goals. |
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| Author: | Juiced [ Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:24 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Leaping vs. Dunking` |
FavreFan wrote: Has the Lameau Leap ever harmed a player? It's not like they are head-butting the wall.  I'm ok with it, as long as they don't forget to leap! DOH 
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| Author: | Powerhouse233 [ Tue Apr 01, 2014 9:55 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Leaping vs. Dunking` |
Juiced wrote: FavreFan wrote: Has the Lameau Leap ever harmed a player? It's not like they are head-butting the wall. I'm ok with it, as long as they don't forget to leap! DOH https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyRy04Hn_-k This poor bastard wasn't as fortunate. |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Leaping vs. Dunking` |
bigfan wrote: Jimmy Graham fucked it up for everyone on his dunk which took 15 minutes to re-level the posts Darkside would rather just ignore this. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Wed Apr 02, 2014 8:12 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Leaping vs. Dunking` |
Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: I think the issue is they don't want players to break the goalposts like Jimmy Graham. Plus with them adding an extra 5 feet or whatever to the post, seems more probably that some idiot could snap the thing in half. Adam Carolla Rule |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Wed Apr 02, 2014 11:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Leaping vs. Dunking` |
Krazy Ivan wrote: bigfan wrote: Jimmy Graham fucked it up for everyone on his dunk which took 15 minutes to re-level the posts Darkside would rather just ignore this.  As alluded to earlier, other celebrations are banned as well. A celebration using the ball as a prop for example. So the point, apparently, was to get rid of touchdown celebrations. However, it remains legal to jump into the crowd, the only time (and place) in professional sports in which jumping into the crowd (as opposed to say falling into the crowd, a la 3rd baseman chasing a pop foul down the line falling into the crowd at a low wall or something) is not punished. Therefore, it occurs to me that it is somewhat hypocritical to allow jumping into the crowd to celebrate a touchdown as there is potential danger for both player and fan, but it is illegal to mime making a cell phone call with a football. |
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| Author: | Krazy Ivan [ Wed Apr 02, 2014 12:36 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Leaping vs. Dunking` |
Darkside wrote: Krazy Ivan wrote: bigfan wrote: Jimmy Graham fucked it up for everyone on his dunk which took 15 minutes to re-level the posts Darkside would rather just ignore this. As alluded to earlier, other celebrations are banned as well. A celebration using the ball as a prop for example. So the point, apparently, was to get rid of touchdown celebrations. However, it remains legal to jump into the crowd, the only time (and place) in professional sports in which jumping into the crowd (as opposed to say falling into the crowd, a la 3rd baseman chasing a pop foul down the line falling into the crowd at a low wall or something) is not punished. Therefore, it occurs to me that it is somewhat hypocritical to allow jumping into the crowd to celebrate a touchdown as there is potential danger for both player and fan, but it is illegal to mime making a cell phone call with a football. They'll eventually get rid of that too. It doesn't have to be one or the other. The "prop" thing was already written into NFL rules a while ago, if I remember correctly. The goal post thing makes a lot of sense. Nobody wants a longer game or equipment damage for no reason. Pleanty of ways to celebrate without using the ball or goal posts. The leap thing will go away when a player punches someone in the crowd. Then any contact with people in the stands will be forbidden. Coming soon... |
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| Author: | Powerhouse233 [ Wed Apr 02, 2014 1:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Leaping vs. Dunking` |
rogers park bryan wrote: Dr. Kenneth Noisewater wrote: I think the issue is they don't want players to break the goalposts like Jimmy Graham. Plus with them adding an extra 5 feet or whatever to the post, seems more probably that some idiot could snap the thing in half. Adam Carolla Rule He suggested that? |
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