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| Author: | Big Chicagoan [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Andy Dalton gets $115M |
NFL QB's starting to be as overpaid as MLB pitchers. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:36 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Andy Dalton gets $115M |
I doubt that he will last 3 years before they cut him. |
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| Author: | Peoria Matt [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:39 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Andy Dalton gets $115M |
I suddenly feel a little better about the Cutler deal. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:39 am ] |
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| Author: | Brick [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:40 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Andy Dalton gets $115M |
Peoria Matt wrote: I suddenly feel a little better about the Cutler deal. Andy Dalton is younger and better though.
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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:42 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Andy Dalton gets $115M |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: Peoria Matt wrote: I suddenly feel a little better about the Cutler deal. Andy Dalton is younger and better though.You won't say that after this year. |
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| Author: | SirTinkleButton [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:44 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Andy Dalton gets $115M |
@FakeSportsCentr: Adam Schefter reporting the majority of Andy Dalton's $115 million is being paid by the Steelers 
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| Author: | Brick [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:45 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Andy Dalton gets $115M |
Nas wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: Peoria Matt wrote: I suddenly feel a little better about the Cutler deal. Andy Dalton is younger and better though.You won't say that after this year. |
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| Author: | rogers park bryan [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 10:57 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Andy Dalton gets $115M |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: Nas wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: Peoria Matt wrote: I suddenly feel a little better about the Cutler deal. Andy Dalton is younger and better though.You won't say that after this year. 3 of Cutler's last 4 years he's had a higher rating than Dalton's average. They're about equal |
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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:02 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Andy Dalton gets $115M |
Boilermaker Rick wrote: Nas wrote: Boilermaker Rick wrote: Peoria Matt wrote: I suddenly feel a little better about the Cutler deal. Andy Dalton is younger and better though.You won't say that after this year. He's going to win a SB. I'll say that is significantly better. I believe he could even be MVP. Everything has come together for him and the Bears. |
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| Author: | Brick [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:10 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Andy Dalton gets $115M |
rogers park bryan wrote: 3 of Cutler's last 4 years he's had a higher rating than Dalton's average. That seems like a strange statistic.They're about equal I think Dalton has been better than Cutler the past 2 years. I may be putting durability into that equation too and team success. |
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| Author: | Hank Scorpio [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:24 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Andy Dalton gets $115M |
Rick's blind hatred of all things Cutler has once again clouded his judgement. I dont know how he is going to explain away a MVP caliber season that is capped off by a SB MVP award... I look forward to seeing him tie himself into knots. |
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| Author: | redskingreg [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:31 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Andy Dalton gets $115M |
Rick is Trent Dilfer with (presumably) more hair. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 11:33 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Andy Dalton gets $115M |
Hank Scorpio wrote: Rick's blind hatred of all things Cutler has once again clouded his judgement. I dont know how he is going to explain away a MVP caliber season that is capped off by a SB MVP award... I look forward to seeing him tie himself into knots. He'll demand that he do it again. |
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| Author: | Hank Scorpio [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:06 pm ] |
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Nas wrote: Hank Scorpio wrote: Rick's blind hatred of all things Cutler has once again clouded his judgement. I dont know how he is going to explain away a MVP caliber season that is capped off by a SB MVP award... I look forward to seeing him tie himself into knots. He'll demand that he do it again. Well ANYONE could be an MVP with the supporting cast that he has... |
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| Author: | Brick [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:07 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Andy Dalton gets $115M |
Hank Scorpio wrote: Rick's blind hatred of all things Cutler has once again clouded his judgement. I dont know how he is going to explain away a MVP caliber season that is capped off by a SB MVP award... I look forward to seeing him tie himself into knots. I heard the same stuff before Cutler ever played a game for the Bears.Maybe this is the year it finally happens! |
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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:08 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Andy Dalton gets $115M |
We understood that losing Orton hurt. |
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| Author: | badrogue17 [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:38 pm ] |
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For fucks sake , with all this unwarranted Cutler love and high expectations youda thought Theo drafted him. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:40 pm ] |
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badrogue17 wrote: For fucks sake , with all this unwarranted Cutler love and Hugh expectations youda thought Theo drafted him. I was saving a seat on the SB bandwagon for you but I guess you don't want it. |
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| Author: | Frank Coztansa [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:10 pm ] |
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Preach on, Nas! |
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| Author: | billypootons [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:10 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Andy Dalton gets $115M |
if i am reading the reports right... only $18 M is guarenteed (what he will amke this year)... after this year it becomes a year to year deal which means he can be cut from deadspin Dalton receives a signing bonus of $12 million and a roster bonus in three days of $5 million. That's a total of $17 million out of the gates. Coupled with his $986,000 base salary (which isn't guaranteed as a legal matter but it is as a practical matter), Dalton will make $18 million in the first year of the deal. Then, on the third day of the 2015 league year in March, Dalton earns a $4 million roster bonus. He also has a $3 million non-guaranteed base salary in 2015. That's $25 million over two years. [...] The rest of the base deal is simple. In addition to annual workout bonuses of $200,000, Dalton has base salaries of $10.5 million in 2016, $13.1 million in 2017, $13.7 million in 2018, $16 million in 2019, and $17.5 million in 2020. The deal also contains escalators tied to the Bengals' playoff performances. (Cincinnati is 0-3 under Dalton.) Reaching the divisional round of the postseason earns him an additional $1 million for each remaining year; reaching the conference championship, another $500,000; for a Super Bowl win, another $1.5 million. Hot take coming through: Andy Dalton's not going to win the next six Super Bowls, so $115 million's an imaginary figure. But what is the deal actually worth in real-world numbers? The Bengals essentially have their choice of the following deals. (Numbers are without potential playoff escalators, and include the upcoming final season on Dalton's last contract.) Two years, $25 million. Three years, $35.7 million Four years, $49 million. Five years, $62.9 million. Six years, $79.1 million. Seven years, $96.8 million. so unless he is absolutely miserable this year it makes sense to keep him for $8M next year.... but after year 2 he could easily be cut. very team friendly as far as QB's go.... no where near Jay's $56M guarenteed |
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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:13 pm ] |
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He would have to be Ryan Leaf awful in order for this to be anything less than a 2 year deal. |
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| Author: | Peoria Matt [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:17 pm ] |
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I suddenly don't feel as good about the Cutler deal. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:20 pm ] |
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Peoria Matt wrote: I suddenly don't feel as good about Jay's contract. You mean you don't like the fact that he is virtually guaranteed $50M+ for 3 years and that this won't be shorter than a 4 year deal? Try to keep a positive mental attitude. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:26 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Andy Dalton gets $115M |
Daulton got 6-96 ...with up to 115 million in playoff incentive . Cutler n Daulton are real similar ...Daulton is slightly better but much younger. But if Cincy wants to dump him in2 years they can ..17 million is guaranteed |
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| Author: | Peoria Matt [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:31 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Andy Dalton gets $115M |
Nas wrote: Peoria Matt wrote: I suddenly don't feel as good about Jay's contract. You mean you don't like the fact that he is virtually guaranteed $50M+ for 3 years and that this won't be shorter than a 4 year deal? Try to keep a positive mental attitude. Sorry. I guess I'm still waiting for 'Melo to show up. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Andy Dalton gets $115M |
I just looked @ daultons stats...he's more than slightly better than Cutler...he's substantialy better. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:35 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Andy Dalton gets $115M |
We have Dougie B |
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| Author: | conns7901 [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 3:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Andy Dalton gets $115M |
So basically it really is: Dalton two years 25 mil. Cutler three years 54 mil |
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| Author: | 312player [ Mon Aug 04, 2014 5:02 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: Andy Dalton gets $115M |
Yes....that sums it up perfectly ...keep in mind ...Trestmans goal is to make Cutty improve to 58-59% On completions....n 2-1 TD-TO ratio...that IS Andy Daulton. |
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