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The NFL does not have a DV Problem
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Author:  FavreFan [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:51 am ]
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I agree the way they have handled things and the punishment thus far has been bad, but I'm talking about the players. Now I'm drinking and not looking up stats so I might be full of shit again. But compare what we know about domestic violence and child abuse cases in reports/unreported/whatever and I'm guessing the 1600 or so NFL players aren't really looking worse off than other celebrity professions or the general public at large. Similar to demanding athletes take less money for whatever dumb fucking reason, we are once again demanding they live up to attributes above and behind what we collectively do. I almost fucking guarantee we all known shitbag people that we don't call out with 1/100th of the vitriol we do some dumb fucking famous person we have never met. It's just tiring. Let's get back to talking about why Jay Cutler sucks.
Author:  W_Z [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 7:00 am ]
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they don't have a DVR problem.
Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:33 am ]
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W_Z wrote:
they don't have a DVR problem.


Yeah they do. Try just recording the game on your DVR. You know you're gonna miss the end unless you tape the postgame show too...
Author:  Big Chicagoan [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:35 am ]
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US Women's Soccer Team has a DV problem. Their star goalie could end up in the clink.
Author:  Regular Reader [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:43 am ]
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Just off the top of my head, ESPN has had Jay Mariotti (domestic violence), Bill Conlin (?) (sexual predator), Sean Salisbury (perv) & Da Coatch (drunken asshat) as employees for years. Maybe ESPN has a similar problem.
Author:  Douchebag [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:45 am ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
Just off the top of my head, ESPN has had Jay Mariotti (domestic violence), Bill Conlin (?) (sexual predator), Sean Salisbury (perv) & Da Coatch (drunken asshat) as employees for years. Maybe ESPN has a similar problem.

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Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 10:45 am ]
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Regular Reader wrote:
Just off the top of my head, ESPN has had Jay Mariotti (domestic violence), Bill Conlin (?) (sexual predator), Sean Salisbury (perv) & Da Coatch (drunken asshat) as employees for years. Maybe ESPN has a similar problem.


That's the tip of the iceberg. In that ESPN tell all book, it sounds like 90% of the people are degenerates.
Author:  Don Tiny [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:08 am ]
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Author:  rogers park bryan [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:13 am ]
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FavreFan wrote:
I agree the way they have handled things and the punishment thus far has been bad, but I'm talking about the players. Now I'm drinking and not looking up stats so I might be full of shit again. But compare what we know about domestic violence and child abuse cases in reports/unreported/whatever and I'm guessing the 1600 or so NFL players aren't really looking worse off than other celebrity professions or the general public at large. Similar to demanding athletes take less money for whatever dumb fucking reason, we are once again demanding they live up to attributes above and behind what we collectively do. I almost fucking guarantee we all known shitbag people that we don't call out with 1/100th of the vitriol we do some dumb fucking famous person we have never met. It's just tiring. Let's get back to talking about why Jay Cutler sucks.

We dont know what the numbers are. You might be right. Although it would make sense if guys from such a violent profession might have some higher numbers
Author:  Brick [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:15 am ]
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FavreFan wrote:
I agree the way they have handled things and the punishment thus far has been bad, but I'm talking about the players. Now I'm drinking and not looking up stats so I might be full of shit again. But compare what we know about domestic violence and child abuse cases in reports/unreported/whatever and I'm guessing the 1600 or so NFL players aren't really looking worse off than other celebrity professions or the general public at large. Similar to demanding athletes take less money for whatever dumb fucking reason, we are once again demanding they live up to attributes above and behind what we collectively do. I almost fucking guarantee we all known shitbag people that we don't call out with 1/100th of the vitriol we do some dumb fucking famous person we have never met. It's just tiring. Let's get back to talking about why Jay Cutler sucks.
Interesting points. You either should post drunk more often or post sober less.
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:19 am ]
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IN THE NEWS - Correlation Between Occupation and Domestic Violence Found

Men who work in female-dominated professions, such as clerks and classroom aides, are 47 percent more likely to lash out in violence against wives or live-in girlfriends than a control group of white-collar managers, according to a recent study by a sociologist at the University of California, Riverside. That is just one of the surprises found by Scott Melzer, a postgraduate researcher, who used a national data set study to compare blue-collar occupations with white-collar managerial workers.
He looked at the rates of domestic violence among men who work in physically dangerous jobs (such as emergency workers, utility linesman); violent jobs (such as military, corrections, law enforcement); and female-dominated jobs (such as classroom aides, receptionists) and compared them to a control group of white-collar managerial workers. He took into consideration differences in income, age and education, and pinpointed how much change in the rate of domestic violence could reasonably be attributed to a man�s occupation.
Melzer tested several hypotheses and found that men in the following occupations have higher rates of violence at home than men in managerial occupations:
� Men in "female-dominated occupations" (i.e., clerical workers), 47% higher;
� Men in "physically violent occupations" (i.e. police, military, correctional) 43 percent higher.
� Men in "dangerous occupations" (i.e., working with explosives, mining, emergency workers), 23% higher.
Some of his findings seem like common sense. Men in stressful or dangerous or violent jobs bring that stress home and are more likely to engage in domestic abuse than the control group of white-collar managers. Melzer called that a "spillover effect." But other discoveries go against the expected. Men who have "self-selected" into a female-dominated world have higher rates of domestic violence than typical white-collar managers. Melzer theorized that society�s pressure and expectations about the role of men in the work world might mean that a man is ridiculed by society for his choice to do "women�s work" and thus brings that extra stress home.
Melzer noted it is not correct to assume that men in blue-collar occupations are more likely to be wife abusers than men in white-collar occupations. In fact, he said, the majority of men do not resort to physical violence at all.
"Domestic violence is a much more complex issue than the stereotype you hear about the blue-collar guy who beats his wife," Melzer said. "As a society, and as we raise our children, we need to be more accepting of people�s choices and less polarized by gender, Melzer said. "Until that happens, men need to handle their stress in ways that do not endanger their partners."

To contact the researcher for more information, you can e-mail him at melzer@san.rr.com
Author:  Hank Scorpio [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:21 am ]
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Why is it suddenly all RBs? Rice, Peterson, Dwyer.

Is it possible that Goodell is orchestrating all of this to help eliminate the running game and turn the game into a complete pass happy score fest to increase ratings?

CSFMB:Shut up, that's crazy :x :x

Goodell: Quiet!!! You'll blow my cover :oops: :oops:

Beardown: Quit stealing my lame ideas. :evil: :evil:

White women: Come on over and fuck me. :drunken: :drunken:
Author:  KDdidit [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:25 am ]
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rogers park bryan wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
I agree the way they have handled things and the punishment thus far has been bad, but I'm talking about the players. Now I'm drinking and not looking up stats so I might be full of shit again. But compare what we know about domestic violence and child abuse cases in reports/unreported/whatever and I'm guessing the 1600 or so NFL players aren't really looking worse off than other celebrity professions or the general public at large. Similar to demanding athletes take less money for whatever dumb fucking reason, we are once again demanding they live up to attributes above and behind what we collectively do. I almost fucking guarantee we all known shitbag people that we don't call out with 1/100th of the vitriol we do some dumb fucking famous person we have never met. It's just tiring. Let's get back to talking about why Jay Cutler sucks.

We dont know what the numbers are. You might be right. Although it would make sense if guys from such a violent profession might have some higher numbers

We do have some idea what the numbers are.

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/the- ... l-players/
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 11:54 am ]
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90% of this is a society problem, not an NFL problem. Teach and educate these men the correct way, and these problems go away real fast.

For every one guy like AP in the NFL, there are probably 3 or 4 like Charles Tillman. Don't let a few bad apples spoil the entire bunch.
Author:  veganfan21 [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:01 pm ]
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FF and Frank are correct. NFL stuff is magnified due to the league and its players being public and very popular individuals and organizations.
Author:  Hatchetman [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:08 pm ]
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Da Coach had what, 2-3 DUI arrests. How many times do you think he was pulled over and let go? 100?
Author:  rogers park bryan [ Thu Sep 18, 2014 12:55 pm ]
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Hatchetman wrote:
Da Coach had what, 2-3 DUI arrests. How many times do you think he was pulled over and let go? 100?

:lol:
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