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| Author: | Beardown [ Tue May 19, 2015 5:20 pm ] |
| Post subject: | 32 yard EXTRA POINTS |
Just passed at the NFL meetings. 2 point conversions are still from the 2 yard line. Defenses are now allowed to return these conversions for 2 points. My first thought is this is really gonna effect point spreads and totals. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Tue May 19, 2015 5:33 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 32 yard EXTRA POINTS |
I like it. |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Tue May 19, 2015 5:44 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 32 yard EXTRA POINTS |
No more taking a piss or grabbing a beer after TDs. Gotta now watch cuz it's not a gimme. |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Tue May 19, 2015 5:47 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 32 yard EXTRA POINTS |
It's really gonna matter come late Novermber in bad weather cities. They'll just go for 2 if it's real windy or the field is mud. Especially at our shitty Soldier Field. Unless 1 point can tie it at the end. Then it's a tough decision. |
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| Author: | Nas [ Tue May 19, 2015 5:54 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 32 yard EXTRA POINTS |
Beardown wrote: It's really gonna matter come late Novermber in bad weather cities. They'll just go for 2 if it's real windy or the field is mud. Especially at our shitty Soldier Field. Unless 1 point can tie it at the end. Then it's a tough decision. Yep! A lot of teams will be going for 2 like they should have been doing. |
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| Author: | IkeSouth [ Tue May 19, 2015 6:22 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 32 yard EXTRA POINTS |
kickers about to get a raise then... pretty big change to the game. also another step that makes historic totals meaningless. |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Tue May 19, 2015 6:40 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 32 yard EXTRA POINTS |
IkeSouth wrote: kickers about to get a raise then... pretty big change to the game. also another step that makes historic totals meaningless. Not really. No raises. Most kickers are good from 32 if it's good weather. It will be expected that they make them. Even the bottom half kickers. The great kickers have the great percentages from like 45 and out. It just changes the coaches philosophy in bad weather. |
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| Author: | W_Z [ Tue May 19, 2015 7:29 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 32 yard EXTRA POINTS |
Beardown wrote: No more taking a piss or grabbing a beer after TDs. Gotta now watch cuz it's not a gimme. you'll still have 3 minute long commercial breaks. |
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| Author: | Beardown [ Tue May 19, 2015 7:38 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 32 yard EXTRA POINTS |
W_Z wrote: Beardown wrote: No more taking a piss or grabbing a beer after TDs. Gotta now watch cuz it's not a gimme. you'll still have 3 minute long commercial breaks. Not if you have the redzone. There are no breaks on an NFL Sunday!!!!! |
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| Author: | W_Z [ Tue May 19, 2015 7:53 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 32 yard EXTRA POINTS |
right...well...if you want to sit there and watch the jaguars go for 2 against the cleveland browns, be my guest. |
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| Author: | Darkside [ Tue May 19, 2015 8:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 32 yard EXTRA POINTS |
I guess no more fake PAT kicks. |
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| Author: | 312player [ Tue May 19, 2015 8:45 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 32 yard EXTRA POINTS |
Should be 50 yards ..34 is a chipshot..cut worthy if ya miss a 34. |
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| Author: | newper [ Tue May 19, 2015 9:43 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 32 yard EXTRA POINTS |
And before anyone goes too crazy, please remember that you don't look at 32 yard FG conversion rates to predict what the average XP rate will be. The XPs are all kicked from the center of the field, where the FGs can be anywhere between the hashes. The conversion percentages go dramatically up when you're positioned in the center... close to 97.5% per my sources. |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Wed May 20, 2015 7:34 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 32 yard EXTRA POINTS |
Who will be the first team that just goes for 2 every time? Also, there will now be specialized units that are just installed for the 2 point conversions. Still not sure I like it. |
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| Author: | jimmypasta [ Wed May 20, 2015 9:07 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 32 yard EXTRA POINTS |
The defense should get 2 points on an extra point TO & 3 if they return it for a TD. |
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| Author: | W_Z [ Wed May 20, 2015 9:56 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 32 yard EXTRA POINTS |
Hawg Ass wrote: Who will be the first team that just goes for 2 every time? Also, there will now be specialized units that are just installed for the 2 point conversions. Still not sure I like it. probably my team. sean payton hates kickers. |
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| Author: | Hawg Ass [ Wed May 20, 2015 10:00 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 32 yard EXTRA POINTS |
W_Z wrote: Hawg Ass wrote: Who will be the first team that just goes for 2 every time? Also, there will now be specialized units that are just installed for the 2 point conversions. Still not sure I like it. probably my team. sean payton hates kickers. Or Philly, so both of your teams. 
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| Author: | W_Z [ Wed May 20, 2015 10:04 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 32 yard EXTRA POINTS |
ok, RF... |
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| Author: | billypootons [ Wed May 20, 2015 10:48 am ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 32 yard EXTRA POINTS |
i like the changes, i think we are still looking at well over 90% accuracy for a 32 yard XP. But a game tying XP try late in a game will definitely be more exciting now |
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| Author: | pittmike [ Wed May 20, 2015 12:06 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 32 yard EXTRA POINTS |
If nothing else it will make people with shitty numbers in pools feel better. |
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| Author: | Zippy-The-Pinhead [ Wed May 20, 2015 12:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 32 yard EXTRA POINTS |
billypootons wrote: i like the changes, i think we are still looking at well over 90% accuracy for a 32 yard XP. But a game tying XP try late in a game will definitely be more exciting now As noted by Newper, the conversion rate only drops from 99% to around 98%. |
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| Author: | Jaw Breaker [ Wed May 20, 2015 1:48 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 32 yard EXTRA POINTS |
Zippy-The-Pinhead wrote: billypootons wrote: i like the changes, i think we are still looking at well over 90% accuracy for a 32 yard XP. But a game tying XP try late in a game will definitely be more exciting now As noted by Newper, the conversion rate only drops from 99% to around 98%. Probably a smart move by the NFL. They are trying to balance the overall odds while at the same time create more potential excitement on each individual event (i.e., keeping the mean the same but increasing the standard deviation.) Pushing the PAT back too far would force teams to almost always go for 2. Some people might prefer that, but part of the overall NFL "entertainment package" is drumming up controversy, including water cooler debates over coaching decisions. |
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| Author: | IkeSouth [ Wed May 20, 2015 2:19 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 32 yard EXTRA POINTS |
1% may be more than it seems though. the first time someone misses they arent going to care about the statistics |
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| Author: | 312player [ Wed May 20, 2015 3:17 pm ] |
| Post subject: | Re: 32 yard EXTRA POINTS |
pittmike wrote: If nothing else it will make people with shitty numbers in pools feel better. Couldn't agree more , what a useless change. |
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