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Author:  KDdidit [ Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Falcons hire Emery
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D. Orlando Ledbetter of the Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports the team is set to add former Chicago Bears GM Phil Emery to the scouting and personnel department


Good luck with that.
Author:  veganfan21 [ Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Falcons hire Emery
Big red flag with Shea, but Alshon and Long were good picks. Traded for Bennett and Marshall as well. Sucked as a GM though.
Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:55 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Falcons hire Emery
veganfan21 wrote:
Big red flag with Shea, but Alshon and Long were good picks. Traded for Bennett and Marshall as well. Sucked as a GM though.

I think it's fair to fire Emery for the Trestman hire, but outside of that I don't know that he really got a fair shot. He was here for only two years right?
Author:  ZephMarshack [ Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Falcons hire Emery
FavreFan wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Big red flag with Shea, but Alshon and Long were good picks. Traded for Bennett and Marshall as well. Sucked as a GM though.

I think it's fair to fire Emery for the Trestman hire, but outside of that I don't know that he really got a fair shot. He was here for only two years right?

Three. The Bears voluntarily restricted their GM search by insisting candidates would have to keep Lovie for another year.
Author:  bigfan [ Tue Jan 26, 2016 3:58 pm ]
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Emery is a decent scout, just made a terrible GM.

Let me suggest that at the NFL level, you hire guys who have proven they do a very good job at the job you want them to do.

Let someone else train them
Author:  KDdidit [ Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Falcons hire Emery
veganfan21 wrote:
Big red flag with Shea, but Alshon and Long were good picks. Traded for Bennett and Marshall as well. Sucked as a GM though.


Alshon and Long were good picks, the other 25 or so, not so much.
Author:  veganfan21 [ Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:02 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Falcons hire Emery
FavreFan wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Big red flag with Shea, but Alshon and Long were good picks. Traded for Bennett and Marshall as well. Sucked as a GM though.

I think it's fair to fire Emery for the Trestman hire, but outside of that I don't know that he really got a fair shot. He was here for only two years right?


Three years I think. But his first major decision pretty much set the Bears back by 2-3 years. Firstly it was debatable whether or not to fire Lovie after going 10-6, then he takes a risk by hiring Trestman after botching negotiations with his first choice (Arians). So Trestman then presides over the worst defensive performance in recent memory, failed to earn the respect of the locker room, and basically turned the Bears into the laughingstock of the league. It'd be different if Trestman turned out to be mediocre or something, but he absolutely sucked. Emery had to be held accountable.
Author:  FavreFan [ Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:05 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Falcons hire Emery
veganfan21 wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Big red flag with Shea, but Alshon and Long were good picks. Traded for Bennett and Marshall as well. Sucked as a GM though.

I think it's fair to fire Emery for the Trestman hire, but outside of that I don't know that he really got a fair shot. He was here for only two years right?


Three years I think. But his first major decision pretty much set the Bears back by 2-3 years. Firstly it was debatable whether or not to fire Lovie after going 10-6, then he takes a risk by hiring Trestman after botching negotiations with his first choice (Arians). So Trestman then presides over the worst defensive performance in recent memory, failed to earn the respect of the locker room, and basically turned the Bears into the laughingstock of the league. It'd be different if Trestman turned out to be mediocre or something, but he absolutely sucked. Emery had to be held accountable.

:lol:

You saw the first part of my post, right?
Author:  veganfan21 [ Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Falcons hire Emery
FavreFan wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
FavreFan wrote:
veganfan21 wrote:
Big red flag with Shea, but Alshon and Long were good picks. Traded for Bennett and Marshall as well. Sucked as a GM though.

I think it's fair to fire Emery for the Trestman hire, but outside of that I don't know that he really got a fair shot. He was here for only two years right?


Three years I think. But his first major decision pretty much set the Bears back by 2-3 years. Firstly it was debatable whether or not to fire Lovie after going 10-6, then he takes a risk by hiring Trestman after botching negotiations with his first choice (Arians). So Trestman then presides over the worst defensive performance in recent memory, failed to earn the respect of the locker room, and basically turned the Bears into the laughingstock of the league. It'd be different if Trestman turned out to be mediocre or something, but he absolutely sucked. Emery had to be held accountable.

:lol:

You saw the first part of my post, right?


:oops:

Guess not. Not having a good thread after being rightfully bitch slapped by KD on Emery's draft picks and then caught not reading by FF. All I need to do now is admit I backed the Trestman hire and I'll probably be banned.
Author:  good dolphin [ Tue Jan 26, 2016 4:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Falcons hire Emery
veganfan21 wrote:
Big red flag with Shea, but Alshon and Long were good picks. Traded for Bennett and Marshall as well. Sucked as a GM though.


He was a good pro evaluator. It seemed like he didn't miss on his free agent deals.
Author:  America [ Tue Jan 26, 2016 5:58 pm ]
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Lamarr Houston was a bad signing.

His drafts were all terrible. Sure he occasionally hit in the draft but for every Kyle Long there's 5 more Ego Fergusons.
Author:  good dolphin [ Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:19 pm ]
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America wrote:
Lamarr Houston was a bad signing.

His drafts were all terrible. Sure he occasionally hit in the draft but for every Kyle Long there's 5 more Ego Fergusons.


but you can compartmentalize him as an employee to only scouting free agents.

Houston had 8.5 sacks this year.
Author:  KDdidit [ Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Falcons hire Emery
good dolphin wrote:
but you can compartmentalize him as an employee to only scouting free agents.

Houston had 8.5 sacks this year.



More than the great Pernell McPhee
Author:  sjboyd0137 [ Tue Jan 26, 2016 6:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Falcons hire Emery
America wrote:
Lamarr Houston was a bad signing.

His drafts were all terrible. Sure he occasionally hit in the draft but for every Kyle Long there's 5 more Ego Fergusons.

I don't agree Houston was a bad signing. A bad fit to that defense...yes. He is a 3-4 guy.
Author:  Frank Coztansa [ Tue Jan 26, 2016 7:47 pm ]
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His worst move wasn't even Trestman. It was giving Cuter that big extension rather than using the Franchise tag. That set the 'rebuild' back even further. New Coach new quarterback and were talking SUPER BEARS SUPER BOWL in 2017. Now this team will be lucky to even make the playoffs the next few seasons.
Author:  Dignified Rube [ Fri Jan 29, 2016 12:38 pm ]
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bigfan wrote:
Emery is a decent scout, just made a terrible GM.

Let me suggest that at the NFL level, you hire guys who have proven they do a very good job at the job you want them to do.

Let someone else train them


He scouted Kyle Fuller, a waste of a 1st round pick. He was a 3rd rounder at best.

How hard is it to scout guards, when Long was another mispick in the 1st?

And why did he scout Shea McClellin for a position that didn't exist in his defense??
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